Congress to Ponder Conscription?
http://www.antiwar.com/paul/?articleid=10069
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"...political and military leaders suggest that [color="Red"]several hundred thousand additional troops might be needed simply to restore some semblance of order in Iraq."
Congress to Ponder Conscription?
by Rep. Ron Paul
Once again the possibility of reinstating a military draft is being discussed in Washington, and while the idea seems remote, it is not unthinkable.
Democratic Congressman Charles Rangel of New York, soon to be a powerful committee chair, has openly called for reinstating the Selective Service System. Retired Army Gen. Barry McCaffrey claims that our ground forces in both Afghanistan and Iraq are stretched far too thin and desperately need reinforcements. Meanwhile, other political and military leaders suggest that several hundred thousand additional troops might be needed simply to restore some semblance of order in Iraq.
We are nearing the point where
a choice will have to be made:
either[color="Red"] decrease our troop commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan significantly,
or produce thousands of new military recruits quickly.
So a discussion of military conscription is not purely academic.
Yet the Department of Defense remains steadfastly opposed to a draft. A Pentagon report stated that draft registration could be eliminated "with no effect on military mobilization and no measurable effect on military recruitment." Most military experts believe a draft would actually impair military readiness, despite the increase in raw manpower, because of training and morale problems.
So why is the idea of a draft even considered? One answer is that our military forces are spread far too thin, engaged in conflicts around the globe that are none of our business. With hundreds of thousands of troops stationed in literally hundreds of foreign nations, we simply don't have enough soldiers to invade and occupy every country labeled a threat or deemed ripe for regime change. Given the choice, many in Congress would rather draft more young bodies than rethink our role as world policeman and bring some of our troops home.
Military needs aside, some politicians simply love the thought of mandatory service to the federal government. The political Right favors sending young people to fight in aggressive wars like Iraq. The political Left longs to send young people into harm's way to save the world in places like Darfur. But both sides share the same belief that citizens should serve the needs of the state – a belief our Founders clearly rejected in the Declaration of Independence.
To many politicians, the American government is America. This is why, on a crude level, the draft appeals to patriotic fervor. Compulsory national service, whether in the form of military conscription or make-work programs like AmeriCorps, still sells on Capitol Hill. Conscription is wrongly associated with patriotism, when really it represents collectivism and involuntary servitude.
I believe wholeheartedly that an all-volunteer military is not only sufficient for national defense, but also preferable. It is time to abolish the Selective Service System and resign military conscription to the dustbin of American history. Five hundred million dollars have been wasted on Selective Service since 1979, money that could have been returned to taxpayers or spent to improve the lives of our nation's veterans.
Ronald Reagan said it best: "The most fundamental objection to draft registration is moral." The notion of involuntary servitude, in whatever form, is simply incompatible with a free society.
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I'm 41, I don't think they'll be drafting me anytime soon....:cheers:
I'm NOT a jew, I just play one on youtube.... 
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Charles Rangel Thinks He Owns You (Updated)
http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/2006/11/charles_rangel_.html
If Democratic Congressman Charles Rangel gets his way, everyone in America will be the government's slave for two years. He doesn't call it "slavery." He calls it a "draft." But if you look closely at what he's demanding, it's not just military service. It's all-purpose involuntary servitude:
WASHINGTON - Americans would have to sign up for a new military draft after turning 18 under a bill the incoming chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee says he will introduce next year.
Rep. Charles Rangel D-N.Y., said Sunday he sees his idea as a way to deter politicians from launching wars. . . . .
He said having a draft would not necessarily mean everyone called to duty would have to serve. Instead, "young people (would) commit themselves to a couple of years in service to this great republic, whether it's our seaports, our airports, in schools, in hospitals," with a promise of educational benefits at the end of service.
So Charles Rangel's position is:
1. Everyone in America should be forced by law to work for the government (or for someone approved by the government) for two years -- either for no pay or for minimal pay.
2. The two years of work should be demanded, not due to any national emergency of any kind, but as a political stunt to influence national policy.
3. In service of this political stunt, people should be forced to do whatever the government dictates -- even work that could be done by private employers like hospitals, seaports and airports.
In other words, Democrat Charles Rangel advocates two years of involuntary servitude -- also known as slavery -- for every adult in America.
Serve two years of your adult life in slavery, and then you'll be freed to do what you want with your own life. (Maybe -- until Rangel comes up with his next political stunt that demands that your freedom be sacrificed!)
Democrat Charles Rangel thinks he owns you. It's not enough that he rakes off your tax money from every paycheck. He feels perfectly entitled to demand that you drop whatever you are doing anywhere in America -- studying for college, learning a trade, launching a small business, starting a family -- so you can instead devote two full years of your life to promote Charles Rangel's political agenda.
Rangel doesn't care what plans anyone may have made for their own life as an adult in the land of the free. His message is: "Welcome to adulthood. Now do whatever the government tells you to."
Of course he's trying to make it sound positive. You'll be "serving" this "great republic!"
Mind you, the government telling grown men and women what kind of work they will or will not be permitted to do -- and for what compensation, if any -- is exactly the opposite of what made this republic great.
But you'll be "serving" in "hospitals!" or maybe "seaports!" or maybe "airports!"
Hey, America's farmers could use a little help! We always have a shortage of farm workers, remember? Rangel will have the perfect solution.
Under Charles Rangel's plan, America's youth will happily
sing songs while toiling on behalf of the "great republic."
Who knows? Maybe you'll even be allowed to "serve" the Congress of this great republic and polish Charlie Rangel's shoes!
See, central planners in the government know better than you do what are good uses of your time.
It's communism lite. It's the two-years-of-your-life plan. Big Brother will tell you what types of work are worthy and unworthy.
Want to work in a hospital for little or no pay? O.K.! Want to work at your uncle's hardware store for a fair wage instead? Or at your dad's veterinary clinic? Not O.K.
Want to work at an airport doing whatever the government says? O.K. Want to get married and start your family? Nope. Want to start your career as an auto mechanic, or hair stylist, or librarian? Not O.K. What do you think this is -- a free country?
Want to help discover a cure for cancer? What are you, a wise guy?
Want to be a teacher's aide? Big Brother says O.K. Want to just stay in college and work toward your degree? No way, buster. Put those plans on hold.
And if you won't cooperate with our plan for the first two years of your adult life, we could always send you to "camp."
Welcome to Charles Rangel's Great Republic Re-Education Camp
And the beauty of it is -- we don't even have a good reason to threaten your freedoms! We just want to pull off a political stunt! (And some of us want cheap labor for our "seaports" and "hospitals" and "schools" and maybe our "fields." Talk about pork! If we control that much free labor and can steer it toward our political pals . . . . The mind boggles!) As far as we're concerned, any excuse -- no matter how thin -- will do!
Does Charles Rangel actually want all of America's youth serving in the military in order to save the country from a hostile enemy? No! He wants out of Iraq; not deeper in. He calls the whole battle in Iraq "fraudulent." He doesn't even believe there is such a thing as terrorism -- he says it's "discriminatory" to call anyone a terrorist!
Yet Rangel says he's very "serious" about reinstating the "draft." Rangel's idea is not to draft soldiers to fight the war on terror or any other war, but instead to take all of America's young adults hostage and occupy them with whatever busywork the government can concoct (schools! seaports! airports! hospitals!) simply to achieve a political objective.
Why, Roosevelt thought he needed a national emergency to take away the freedom of Japanese Americans during World War II. But with Charles Rangel -- emergency-shmergency! We, the mighty Democratic Leaders of the Great Republic, aren't even sure where we would put all of you! Nonetheless, if we say so, you will report and you will cooperate.
You didn't know it, but you are the government's all-purpose, any-excuse-will-do slaves.
Now stand by and await Charlie Rangel's orders.
Update: Leading Democrats are already backpedaling fast on Rangel's call for compulsory national service -- this week anyway. Do you trust your liberties to these people?
Update 2: A recurring theme from the left seems to be glee in the idea that people who oppose Rangel's compulsory national service plan must be "afraid" of the military draft. The argument is ridiculous because the vast majority of those "drafted" would be working in places like hospitals, schools, airports, and wherever else Charles Rangel and his ilk owe someone a political favor. My objection to Rangel's plan is that it is heavy-handed, totalitarian, arrogant, presumptuous, and completely at odds with the freedom that made this country great.
Update 3: Another recurring theme from the left seems to be that, if we accept that we currently face a national emergency due to Islamic terrorism, we have to bring back the draft. This assumes that a large drafted army is better suited to modern warfare than the well-trained, self-selected all-volunteer army we currently have. Many military experts agree that we are far better off with our highly-motivated all-volunteer army. Besides, it is obvious that Rangel's proposal is not well-tailored to address the needs of the war that Islamic terrorists are waging against us. Rangel would assign millions of adults to two years of government-mandated busywork in places like schools and hospitals. That is not how we will win this war, and it values our freedoms far too lightly.
Be prepared.
I'm 41, I don't think they'll be drafting me anytime soon....:cheers:
Next month I'm 38. They still need old infantry grunts like us. Maybe they'd select for my ways with tools and mechanics.
@Billybob: I dont know what I would do. I just cant start all over again with my wife and daughter. Where should I flee too? Canada? Russia? I dont even wanna move out of Louisiana. I got a good life here, sure Louisiana is one of the states besides Georgia and NJ with the highest negro population ever. But the conditions are still bearable here.
I would just accept it I quess, like many Kwaps.
Pelosi says no to draft legislation (until the next false flag, that is)
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/20/rangel.draft/index.html
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"Rangel said a draft would help keep America prepared for potential future action in Iraq, North Korea and Iran."
"Rangel has introduced similar bills in the past that have failed. Before the invasion of Iraq in 2003, he proposed a draft for people between 18 and 26. Earlier this year, he proposed a mandatory military service for men and women 18 to 42."
Charlie Rangel's Draft Legislation Obsession
http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_21251011.shtml
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"Every day that the military option is on the table, as declared by the President in his State of the Union address, in Iran, North Korea, and Syria, reinstatement of the military draft is an option that must also be considered, whether we like it or not," Congressman Rangel said in a statement.
"If the military is already having trouble getting the recruits they need, what can we do to fill the ranks if the war spreads from Iraq to other countries? We may have no other choice but a draft."
Rangel to introduce bill reviving military draft
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15805957/
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WASHINGTON - Americans would have to sign up for a new military draft after turning 18 under a bill the incoming chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee says he will introduce next year.
Rangel Will Push To Bring Back The Draft
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/19/ftn/main2199539.shtml
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Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who is a colonel in the U.S. Air Force Standby Reserve, said he agreed that the U.S. does not have enough people in the military.
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They dont need us for the Sunni triangle. Uncle Shlomo wants us for Iran.
It's gonna take 'them' 2 years to fully take over Teheran in an conventional war. But it's gonna take 'them' forever to get all the Iranians on their knees.
Remember: the Iranian Islamic Guard is a huge guerrila army compared to the tiny organized fraction of Hezbollah.
[color="Navy"]"...political and military leaders suggest that several hundred thousand additional troops might be needed simply to restore some semblance of order in Iraq."
This is TOTAL fucking bullshit! The actual purpose for this is to acquire the needed troop force for ONE LAST IMMENSE GROUND ATTACK upon Iraq, and enough toolz to HOLD the damn territory, in the hope that the Jewnited Statez can prevail (and getz & keepz da oil). If not... look soon afterwards for photos in TIME of the last of the troops scrambling into choppers from roof tops to get the fuck home, as massive numbers of insurgents fire at them from the streets... ala Viet Nam!
Here's your fuckin' Democrat 'end the war' policy deal in action!
[color="Gray"]BTW - There is about 150,000 burnt-out troops there now. They'll need 500,000+ at minimum to have any chance of success in this 'final push'.
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Actually, I think Rangel has a point. Perhaps if there was a draft these assholes wouldn't be so quick to launch wars.
What I don't understand is if someone is for this war in Iraq why wouldn't they be for a draft?
And franky I would love to see some of the obese keyboard commandos that post here be the first ones drafted.
I see it as accomplishing two things:
1. It gets our people in shape
2. and since folks are faced with the consequences of our failed government perhaps it would give folks an incentive to change the situation. As Terrible Tommy says, "Worse is better".
BTW I am 38 and if called I would serve. (Not that I agree with this stupid war or this government)
"I joined the Communist Party, USA, in 2000, in my post-leftist / post-anarchist period, as a joke."--Bill White
Charlie Rangel is a mulatto version of Al Sharpton. Look at this nigger.

Open wide and say "I got a job".
Fuck him!
BTW I am 38 and if called I would serve. (Not that I agree with this stupid war or this government)
Perhaps not a bad idea when considering that you will be armed to the teeth, you'll have many instances of battle chaos, and there will be niggers to the right of you, shitshins to the left, and maybe, if your lucky, a few jew officers behind, giving you the opportunity to fight the REAL ENEMY! 
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I'm 41, I don't think they'll be drafting me anytime soon....:cheers:
Don't be drinking too much there brudda'. You may have a lot of driving ahead of you. They'll be takin' 'em up to [color="Red"]48!!! 
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I bet you one Oreo cookie that it wasn't. Two Oreo cookies that this one isn't a 'triple'.
Moving on
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[color="Red"]JUST IN!
[color="Red"]U.N. Security Council unanimously approves resolution extending mandate of 160,000-strong multinational force in Iraq for a year....
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You're Drafted!! What are you going to do when they come for you?
Congressman Rangel and I have done our time in uniform.
I enlisted a few months after high school.
I've already completed what the Army calls an "MSO" (Mandatory Service Obligation).
ZOG's draft board won't be knocking at my door any time soon.
More Americans must be made to suffer the burdens of living under Zionism.
Rangel's valiant efforts will awaken many Americans.
All clear-thinking White Nationalists should support him.
So, what will I do when the draft comes?
I will proudly wave Old Glory and salute the troops as they are shipped off to the Middle East.
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Most of the time I curse it but if there was a draft I'll be thanking the stars I have a felony on my record.