Most of the time I curse it but if there was a draft I'll be thanking the stars I have a felony on my record.

You think that's going to stop them? Cannon fodder is cannon foddder. If this bullshit plan makes it, watch there be exemptions for felonies. Actually, watch them make it so that if you have a felony, you have to serve double the minimum time. And why not since every damn thing is a felony these days (including, no doubt, wiping one's ass bottom to top instead of top to bottom).

If they come to draft me, I'll say, "I'm either guarding the U.S. southern border against Mexican invasion or fighting *with* Iran. Your choice."

If they come to draft me, I'll say, "I'm either guarding the U.S. southern border against Mexican invasion or fighting *with* Iran. Your choice."

You think that's going to stop them? Cannon fodder is cannon foddder. If this bullshit plan makes it, watch there be exemptions for felonies. Actually, watch them make it so that if you have a felony, you have to serve double the minimum time. And why not since every damn thing is a felony these days (including, no doubt, wiping one's ass bottom to top instead of top to bottom).

Well I tend to agree. The only reason I say this is because I haven't seen them change the law yet. However they have changed it for students and made the draft age higher, etc...

If they drafted me I'd go without a fight, until they put a gun in my hands.

If they come to draft me, I'll say, "I'm either guarding the U.S. southern border against Mexican invasion or fighting *with* Iran. Your choice."

That's a good point. Can you imagine if they had a draft with this generation of malcontents? The amount of defectors and people who decide to give up info on their own government/military in return for amnesty would probably be through the roof.

I say if you are drafted (whomever)...learn as much as you can about the weapons and tactics. That way when you come back to civilian life, you'll be better prepared.

I say if you are drafted (whomever)...learn as much as you can about the weapons and tactics. That way when you come back to civilian life, you'll be better prepared.

A common phrase stated frequently after returning from a previous war was - "After two god damn years of killing anything and everything that moved in 'Nam -- it ain't murder... [color="Red"]ITS JUST ONE MORE FUCKIN' TIME!! "

I say if you are drafted (whomever)...learn as much as you can about the weapons and tactics. That way when you come back to civilian life, you'll be better prepared.

On the surface these appear to be reasonable responses to the Draft Question. They are only reasonable, however, if the intentions of the Jewish Occupied Government are noble and pure.

After the first Iraq Assault, I knew and worked with Guys who came back from Desert Storm and Tried to Live a civilian life "better prepared" like you suggested. Only problem was our government was not noble or pure then, just as they are not noble or pure now. They, like thousands of others, were experimented on with poisonous vaccines that produced the horrible gulf-war syndrome illness which to this day is making their lives a living hell. Factor Depleted uranium into the modern equation and our troops aren't doing much better than the first round of Gulf War vets, when they get out.

In one of the News Video Clips I posted above It is Stated that currently 73% of the volunteer military is White.

The Military that is being Experimented on with unsafe vaccines is 73% white.

The Military that is being exposed to depleted Uranium is 73% white.

The Military that sends their volunteers home in body bags or deformed physically and mentally for the rest of their lives, is 73% white.

How many limbs are you willing to give to line George Bush's Jewish Pockets?

If they drafted me I'd go without a fight, until they put a gun in my hands.]

Enter Technology

I'm sure you've heard of Implantable tracking chips. They are in the news constantly. Who's currently being chipped? Prisoners are being chipped. Animals are being chipped. Old people with alzheimers are being chipped. Mental patients are being chipped. High level government personnel are being chipped. Children are being chipped. Who's next on the list. Drafted military perhaps?

Tim McVeigh was a pioneer in this field of chipping technology. The ultimate soldier is one who can be controlled totally and unconditionally.

Sporting Uncle Sam's newest and most Effective types of tracking/controlling chips is not far off for those who will be Drafted in the near future.

What if a Chip could be inserted without your knowledge when the military shoots you up with all of those vaccines that are mandatory?

What if that tracking chip also had a device that could cause intense pain to the host if he or she veered from their prescribed path?

What if that chip had a mechanism that could produce instant death in it's host, should that person exhibit behavior that is deemed dangerous to the government?

The technology is out there. Only time will tell how widely it will be implemented.

Remember

Total Control

is the Ultimate Goal.

Chipped ID cards/Driver's licenses will be mandatory in a few months.

What do you think the next step will be?

Be prepared.

 

They come from Mexico, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Colombia, Cambodia and a hundred other countries across the globe to find the promise of America. Increasingly they enlist to fight, and sometimes die, in America's wars.

About 69,300 foreign-born men and women serve in the U.S. armed forces, roughly 5 percent of the total active-duty force, according to the most recent data. Of those, 43 percent – 29,800 – are not U.S. citizens. The Pentagon says more than 100 immigrant soldiers have died in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, President Bush and Congress, citing long-established wartime powers, streamlined the process by which immigrants in the armed forces could become naturalized citizens.

As of October, more than 25,000 immigrant soldiers had become U.S. citizens as a result. Another 40,000 are believed eligible to apply. And roughly a third of noncitizens in the all-volunteer military come from Mexico and Central America.

"Latinos are very patriotic and see military service as a way to show their appreciation to America and to prove they can be 'real Americans,' " said Dr. Jorge Mariscal, director of Chicano Studies at the University of California at San Diego.

But he questions the attention that military recruiters give Latino immigrant neighborhoods.

"The efforts of recruiters tends to undermine community efforts to get these kids better civilian educational opportunities and pushes them into low-echelon enlisted positions with a higher risk of seeing combat," he said. "Until the playing field is level, we're only going to create a class of combat soldiers drawn from immigrants and the working class."

Conservative critics fear that increased reliance on an immigrant-based military may create security problems and turn the U.S. armed forces into a "green-card army" where citizenship becomes just another recruiting tool.

"Service to the country is good. But my concern is that by taking in too many noncitizens into the military, we separate service and duty from citizenship," said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors stricter immigration controls.

Future budget pressures and continuing enlistment needs could create incentives for the Pentagon to cut back on pay and benefits, he said. "If the Pentagon seeks to save money by seeking a cheap source of labor among noncitizens through accelerated citizenship, a real potential exists that we may turn soldiering into a job Americans won't do."

Worries that noncitizen soldiers will lead to a day-labor military or about the commitment of immigrant soldiers is baseless, said Margaret D. Stock, an authority on immigration law and part-time lecturer at the U.S. Military Academy.

"It won't happen. Noncitizens are a small percentage of the military, and that won't change greatly," she said. "Expedited citizenship is a reward for putting their lives on the line, not to buy their service. ... I've never met an immigrant who enlisted just for the possibility of citizenship."

The answer posed by the question in the title of this thread is simple and the only possible answer: do not go.
It is far better to sit in a prison cell than serve the ZOG in some far-away place.
If enough people refuse to be drafted the system will collapse.
In my own country I will be in the second wave of draftees.
I am a former army officer, armoured corps. They spent a lot of money to train me. They will want a return on that investment. Sooner or later, they will get around to calling up former soldiers, especially former officers and NCOs.
I have already been contacted and asked if I would be interested in putting on the uniform again. The Australian Army is running special refresher training for former soldiers who have been persuaded to put the uniform on again.
Clearly, the ZOG is preparing for something BIG in the not-too-distant future.
If or when they come for me with a draft, I will not go.
I will go to the ZOG's prison instead.
They cannot force any of us to fight for their wars of Zionist conquest.

I'm sure you've heard of Implantable tracking chips. They are in the news constantly. Who's currently being chipped? Prisoners are being chipped. Animals are being chipped. Old people with alzheimers are being chipped. Mental patients are being chipped. High level government personnel are being chipped. Children are being chipped. Who's next on the list. Drafted military perhaps?

Tim McVeigh was a pioneer in this field of chipping technology. The ultimate soldier is one who can be controlled totally and unconditionally.

Sporting Uncle Sam's newest and most Effective types of tracking/controlling chips is not far off for those who will be Drafted in the near future.

What if a Chip could be inserted without your knowledge when the military shoots you up with all of those vaccines that are mandatory?

What if that tracking chip also had a device that could cause intense pain to the host if he or she veered from their prescribed path?

What if that chip had a mechanism that could produce instant death in it's host, should that person exhibit behavior that is deemed dangerous to the government?

The technology is out there. Only time will tell how widely it will be implemented.

Remember

Total Control

is the Ultimate Goal.

Chipped ID cards/Driver's licenses will be mandatory in a few months.

What do you think the next step will be?

A generation is all they need
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1165705809111&call_pageid=968867495754

One day we will all happily be implanted with microchips, and our every move will be monitored. The technology exists; the only barrier is society's resistance to the loss of privacy

By the time my four-year-old son is swathed in the soft flesh of old age, he will likely find it unremarkable that he and almost everyone he knows will be permanently implanted with a microchip. Automatically tracking his location in real time, it will connect him with databases monitoring and recording his smallest behavioural traits.

Most people anticipate such a prospect with a sense of horrified disbelief, dismissing it as a science-fiction fantasy. The technology, however, already exists. For years humane societies have implanted all the pets that leave their premises with a small identifying microchip. As well, millions of consumer goods are now traced with tiny radio frequency identification chips that allow satellites to reveal their exact location.

A select group of people are already "chipped" with devices that automatically open doors, turn on lights, and perform other low-level miracles. Prominent among such individuals is researcher Kevin Warwick of Reading University in England; Warwick is a leading proponent of the almost limitless potential uses for such chips.

Other users include the patrons of the Baja Beach Club in Barcelona, many of whom have paid about $150 (U.S.) for the privilege of being implanted with an identifying chip that allows them to bypass lengthy club queues and purchase drinks by being scanned. These individuals are the advance guard of an effort to expand the technology as widely as possible.

From this point forward, microchips will become progressively smaller, less invasive, and easier to deploy. Thus, any realistic barrier to the wholesale "chipping" of Western citizens is not technological but cultural. It relies upon the visceral reaction against the prospect of being personally marked as one component in a massive human inventory.

Today we might strongly hold such beliefs, but sensibilities can, and probably will, change. How this remarkable attitudinal transformation is likely to occur is clear to anyone who has paid attention to privacy issues over the past quarter-century. There will be no 3 a.m. knock on the door by storm troopers come to force implants into our bodies. The process will be more subtle and cumulative, couched in the unassailable language of progress and social betterment, and mimicking many of the processes that have contributed to the expansion of closed-circuit television cameras and the corporate market in personal data.

A series of tried and tested strategies will be marshalled to familiarize citizens with the technology. These will be coupled with efforts to pressure tainted social groups and entice the remainder of the population into being chipped.

This, then, is how the next generation will come to be microchipped.

It starts in distant countries. Having tested the technology on guinea pigs, both human and animal, the first widespread use of human implanting will occur in nations at the periphery of the Western world. Such developments are important in their own right, but their international significance pertains to how they familiarize a global audience with the technology and habituate them to the idea that chipping represents a potential future.

An increasing array of hypothetical chipping scenarios will also be depicted in entertainment media, furthering the familiarization process.

In the West, chips will first be implanted in members of stigmatized groups. Pedophiles are the leading candidate for this distinction, although it could start with terrorists, drug dealers, or whatever happens to be that year's most vilified criminals. Short-lived promises will be made that the technology will only be used on the "worst of the worst." In fact, the wholesale chipping of incarcerated individuals will quickly ensue, encompassing people on probation and on parole.

Even accused individuals will be tagged, a measure justified on the grounds that it would stop them from fleeing justice. Many prisoners will welcome this development, since only chipped inmates will be eligible for parole, weekend release, or community sentences. From the prison system will emerge an evocative vocabulary distinguishing chippers from non-chippers.

Although the chips will be justified as a way to reduce fraud and other crimes, criminals will almost immediately develop techniques to simulate other people's chip codes and manipulate their data.

The comparatively small size of the incarcerated population, however, means that prisons would be simply a brief stopover on a longer voyage. Commercial success is contingent on making serious inroads into tagging the larger population of law-abiding citizens. Other stigmatized groups will therefore be targeted. This will undoubtedly entail monitoring welfare recipients, a move justified to reduce fraud, enhance efficiency, and ensure that the poor do not receive "undeserved" benefits.

Once e-commerce is sufficiently advanced, welfare recipients will receive their benefits as electronic vouchers stored on their microchips, a policy that will be tinged with a sense of righteousness, as it will help ensure that clients can only purchase government-approved goods from select merchants, reducing the always disconcerting prospect that poor people might use their limited funds to purchase alcohol or tobacco.

Civil libertarians will try to foster a debate on these developments. Their attempts to prohibit chipping will be handicapped by the inherent difficulty in animating public sympathy for criminals and welfare recipients — groups that many citizens are only too happy to see subjected to tighter regulation. Indeed, the lesser public concern for such groups is an inherent part of the unarticulated rationale for why coerced chipping will be disproportionately directed at the stigmatized.

The official privacy arm of the government will now take up the issue. Mandated to determine the legality of such initiatives, privacy commissioners and Senate Committees will produce a forest of reports presented at an archipelago of international conferences. Hampered by lengthy research and publication timelines, their findings will be delivered long after the widespread adoption of chipping is effectively a fait accompli. The research conclusions on the effectiveness of such technologies will be mixed and open to interpretation.

Officials will vociferously reassure the chipping industry that they do not oppose chipping itself, which has fast become a growing commercial sector. Instead, they are simply seeking to ensure that the technology is used fairly and that data on the chips is not misused. New policies will be drafted.

What might Hitler, Mao or Milosevic have accomplished if their citizens were chipped, coded, and remotely monitored?

Employers will start to expect implants as a condition of getting a job. The U.S. military will lead the way, requiring chips for all soldiers as a means to enhance battlefield command and control — and to identify human remains. From cooks to commandos, every one of the more than one million U.S. military personnel will see microchips replace their dog tags.

Following quickly behind will be the massive security sector. Security guards, police officers, and correctional workers will all be expected to have a chip. Individuals with sensitive jobs will find themselves in the same position.

The first signs of this stage are already apparent. In 2004, the Mexican attorney general's office started implanting employees to restrict access to secure areas. The category of "sensitive occupation" will be expansive to the point that anyone with a job that requires keys, a password, security clearance, or identification badge will have those replaced by a chip.

Judges hearing cases on the constitutionality of these measures will conclude that chipping policies are within legal limits. The thin veneer of "voluntariness" coating many of these programs will allow the judiciary to maintain that individuals are not being coerced into using the technology.

In situations where the chips are clearly forced on people, the judgments will deem them to be undeniable infringements of the right to privacy. However, they will then invoke the nebulous and historically shifting standard of "reasonableness" to pronounce coerced chipping a reasonable infringement on privacy rights in a context of demands for governmental efficiency and the pressing need to enhance security in light of the still ongoing wars on terror, drugs, and crime.

At this juncture, an unfortunately common tragedy of modern life will occur: A small child, likely a photogenic toddler, will be murdered or horrifically abused. It will happen in one of the media capitals of the Western world, thereby ensuring non-stop breathless coverage. Chip manufactures will recognize this as the opportunity they have been anticipating for years. With their technology now largely bug-free, familiar to most citizens and comparatively inexpensive, manufacturers will partner with the police to launch a high-profile campaign encouraging parents to implant their children "to ensure your own peace of mind."

Special deals will be offered. Implants will be free, providing the family registers for monitoring services. Loving but unnerved parents will be reassured by the ability to integrate tagging with other functions on their PDA so they can see their child any time from any place.

Paralleling these developments will be initiatives that employ the logic of convenience to entice the increasingly small group of holdouts to embrace the now common practice of being tagged. At first, such convenience tagging will be reserved for the highest echelon of Western society, allowing the elite to move unencumbered through the physical and informational corridors of power. Such practices will spread more widely as the benefits of being chipped become more prosaic. Chipped individuals will, for example, move more rapidly through customs.

Indeed, it will ultimately become a condition of using mass-transit systems that officials be allowed to monitor your chip. Companies will offer discounts to individuals who pay by using funds stored on their embedded chip, on the small-print condition that the merchant can access large swaths of their personal data. These "discounts" are effectively punitive pricing schemes, charging unchipped individuals more as a way to encourage them to submit to monitoring. Corporations will seek out the personal data in hopes of producing ever more fine-grained customer profiles for marketing purposes, and to sell to other institutions.

By this point all major organizations will be looking for opportunities to capitalize on the possibilities inherent in an almost universally chipped population. The uses of chips proliferate, as do the types of discounts. Each new generation of household technology becomes configured to operate by interacting with a person's chip.

Finding a computer or appliance that will run though old-fashioned "hands-on"' interactions becomes progressively more difficult and costly. Patients in hospitals and community care will be routinely chipped, allowing medical staff — or, more accurately, remote computers — to monitor their biological systems in real time.

Eager to reduce the health costs associated with a largely docile citizenry, authorities will provide tax incentives to individuals who exercise regularly. Personal chips will be remotely monitored to ensure that their heart rate is consistent with an exercise regime.

By now, the actual process of "chipping" for many individuals will simply involve activating certain functions of their existing chip. Any prospect of removing the chip will become increasingly untenable, as having a chip will be a precondition for engaging in the main dynamics of modern life, such as shopping, voting, and driving.

The remaining holdouts will grow increasingly weary of Luddite jokes and subtle accusations that they have something to hide. Exasperated at repeatedly watching neighbours bypass them in "chipped" lines while they remain subject to the delays, inconveniences, and costs reserved for the unchipped, they too will choose the path of least resistance and get an implant.

In one generation, then, the cultural distaste many might see as an innate reaction to the prospect of having our bodies marked like those of an inmate in a concentration camp will likely fade.

In the coming years some of the most powerful institutional actors in society will start to align themselves to entice, coerce, and occasionally compel the next generation to get an implant.

Now, therefore, is the time to contemplate the unprecedented dangers of this scenario. The most serious of these concern how even comparatively stable modern societies will, in times of fear, embrace treacherous promises. How would the prejudices of a Joe McCarthy, J. Edgar Hoover, or of southern Klansmen — all of whom were deeply integrated into the American political establishment — have manifest themselves in such a world? What might Hitler, Mao or Milosevic have accomplished if their citizens were chipped, coded, and remotely monitored?

Choirs of testimonials will soon start to sing the virtues of implants. Calm reassurances will be forthcoming about democratic traditions, the rule of law, and privacy rights. History, unfortunately, shows that things can go disastrously wrong, and that this happens with disconcerting regularity. Little in the way of international agreements, legality, or democratic sensibilities has proved capable of thwarting single-minded ruthlessness.

"It can't happen here" has become the whispered swan song of the disappeared. Best to contemplate these dystopian potentials before we proffer the tender forearms of our sons and daughters. While we cannot anticipate all of the positive advantages that might be derived from this technology, the negative prospects are almost too terrifying to contemplate.

Fuck you bunch of pathetic looses.

Combat is better than heroin,cocaine, speed and four Vegas hookers;all at the same time.

Nothing on the planet comes close to the feeling of having cheated death one more time.NOTHING.

and IF you survive; NOTHING on the fucking planet scares you ever again.

except that you won't be able to go back and do it again.

Actually I never felt so alive then after a firefight.Fantastic!!!!

Killing rag-heads for Allah,JC or ZOG-and getting paid for it-priceless.

I'd give anything to go.Anything.