Posted by: @dominus

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Posted by: @vincent-eric

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Check out Lilly Gaddis on jew tube.

She's blowing up.

https://www.youtube.com/@thelillyshowofficial

I'm afraid that she will be banned soon on Jewtube just like Lana from "Red Ice" before her.....

However she is still up on Rumble.

https://rumble.com/v6wyfag-heidi-klum-a-lesson-in-race-mixing.html?e9s=src_v1_upp_v

 

This is promoting! If you are afraid she will be banned than you are promoting it! I know you are afraid. You are a lot afraid generally!

Posted by: @vizionar777

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Posted by: @dominus

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Posted by: @vincent-eric

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Check out Lilly Gaddis on jew tube.

She's blowing up.

https://www.youtube.com/@thelillyshowofficial

I'm afraid that she will be banned soon on Jewtube just like Lana from "Red Ice" before her.....

However she is still up on Rumble.

https://rumble.com/v6wyfag-heidi-klum-a-lesson-in-race-mixing.html?e9s=src_v1_upp_v

 

This is promoting! If you are afraid she will be banned than you are promoting it! I know you are afraid. You are a lot afraid generally!

 

Yes, I'm afraid for her because she has a good point of view and on some basic level she is even racially conscious, which is good. However, that's not promotion, it's support at best..... you really do struggle with the definitions of the words.

Posted by: @dominus

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What I said and what I'm still saying is that present day "Croats" use a language which is linguistically not different from Serbian.

You said "Before WWII there was no such language as "Croatian"", and I showed you that you're wrong.

Even if the Croats of the past had their language, and they most probably had, that language was definitely not called  "Croatian",

The language that was called Croatian (i.e. hrvatski or hrvacki in Croatian) in the medieval and Renaissance documents that I quoted from is the same language that Croats speak today.

Germanic and Romance sources are irrelevant in this regard because they always served the interests of the Vatican and the catholic church.

You refuse to accept Croatian sources because you claim that they're biased, and you refuse to accept Germanic and Romance sources because they allegedly "serve the interests of the Vatican". So basically, you will automatically dismiss any source, for whatever reason, if it goes against your chauvinistic pro-Serbian narrative. This complete lack of intellectual integrity is astonishing, but sadly it's typical of Serbian nationalists. I've seen similar stuff on Stormfront in the past (the very few times that I've bothered to look at the threads in the Balkan subforums).

If I try to read for example the Czech language of today or of the past, I don't understand it at all, nor do I understand the Polish nor even the Slovenian. But the so called "Croatian" language from the sources which you represented, that language I can fully understand. If I can understand it, it means that it is not a different language. That's pure logic.....

I doubt that you can understand the Croatian dialect known as Istrian/Chakavian since it differs quite a bit from the standard language, but it doesn't really matter; if you can understand standard Croatian - and even Chakavian - then it's because Croatian and Serbian both developed from a common South Slavic linguistic ancestor; I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

@dominus I support her work as well! Yes, a little bit i am struggling with English words meaning. However, that have nothing with fact you are afraid old man who live on forums. Wanted or not this is very visible! You have admit my English is better from day to day but you are the same afraid little man!

@stewart-meadows Stewart you have nerve to explain him how stupid he is. He want oppose me but discover his weaknesses, and there are two main weaknesses ,,domanus'' is one afraid and very stupid human!
I don't have to approving those two facts he discover it in almost every post.
He is not even nationalist, he is chauvinist who hate Serbs, Slavs, Germans, Croats, and i think i am on the first place! I would find out who he is if i didn't hasn't health issues and i have a lot of time for VNN forum.

Posted by: @stewart-meadows

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You said "Before WWII there was no such language as "Croatian""

Yes that's right.

and I showed you that you're wrong.

No, you showed me a language which is grammatically the same as Serbian.

The language that was called Croatian (i.e. hrvatski or hrvacki in Croatian) in the medieval and Renaissance documents that I quoted from is the same language that Croats speak today.

Exactly, and that language is grammatically the same as Serbian.

You refuse to accept Croatian sources because you claim that they're biased, and you refuse to accept Germanic and Romance sources because they allegedly "serve the interests of the Vatican". So basically, you will automatically dismiss any source, for whatever reason, if it goes against your chauvinistic pro-Serbian narrative.

I refuse the Vatican propaganda which is meant to spread Catholicism through falsification of history and through despicable amount of lies which Croatian shills of today are also promoting, even if it goes against their own interest, because it buries the true of their own roots even deeper.

However, I'm not refusing the Croatian ustashe sources, who by the way killed many of my family members in WWII. I guess that's quite a selfish, chauvinistic, subjective pro-Serbian behavior. Right?

if you can understand standard Croatian - and even Chakavian - then it's because Croatian and Serbian both developed from a common South Slavic linguistic ancestor.

Going by that logic, the Slovenian then also developed from that "common South Slavic linguistic ancestor" (whoever or whatever this may be) and yet I don't understand Slovenian at all.....

@dominus Ok go rest a little bit. You are boring

Posted by: @stewart-meadows

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So basically, you will automatically dismiss any source, for whatever reason, if it goes against your chauvinistic pro-Serbian narrative. This complete lack of intellectual integrity is astonishing, but sadly it's typical of Serbian nationalists.

Typical of any old-school "nationalist" when it comes to what he believes about his own particular nation in relation to outsiders. Because for an old-school nationalist, loyalty to his chauvinistic anti-other beliefs equates with loyalty to his nation, and he will cling to those beliefs even over logic and White reasoning. And this is true of the "religious" beliefs of ANY cult-tard who is by definition loyal to his beliefs even above the understanding/non-understanding in his White blood.

It's why Whites gotta realize the highest loyalty to their race and nation equates with first and foremost subjugating their beliefs to the understanding/non-understanding innate to all White blood. That's the sacrifice all racial Whites gotta make so as to not be religion tards.

Posted by: @george-witzgall

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Typical of any old-school "nationalist" when it comes to what he believes about his own particular nation in relation to outsiders. Because for an old-school nationalist, loyalty to his chauvinistic anti-other beliefs equates with loyalty to his nation, and he will cling to those beliefs even over logic and White reasoning. And this is true of the "religious" beliefs of ANY cult-tard who is by definition loyal to his beliefs even above the understanding/non-understanding in his White blood.

It's why Whites gotta realize the highest loyalty to their race and nation equates with first and foremost subjugating their beliefs to the understanding/non-understanding innate to all White blood. That's the sacrifice all racial Whites gotta make so as to not be religion tards.

Wrong again Shlomo. I never put anything above the White Race. Through decades I had a lot of CONFLICTS with many "Serbians" who I classified as mongrels/non-whites.

Posted by: @dominus

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Yes that's right.

No, it's not right. This whole "debate" is ridiculous because you don't even understand the most basic facts about the Balkans. For example, you claimed in one of your previous posts that almost no one in present-day Croatia - not even in Istria - speaks Chakavian (čakavski) anymore, and that the Chakavian dialect almost disappeared after Tito drove out the Italian population of Istria in the aftermath of WWII.

This claim in not only incorrect - it's so mind-bogglingly stupid that I can't believe that anybody who is from former Yugoslavia would state it. The Italians who lived in Istria obviously didn't speak Chakavian in such large numbers since that's a Slavic (Croatian) dialect. Instead, they spoke Italian (or a local Italian dialect or Romance language, like Venetian or Istriot). The people who actually spoke Chakavian were the indigenous Slavic (Croatian) inhabitants who largely remained in Istria after Tito took over.

So I'm being lectured by a guy who doesn't even know the difference between Romance and Slavic languages? What a joke.

And regarding your claim that Chakavian almost disappeared from Istria shortly after WWII, that's incorrect as well because Chakavian continued to be the first language of Istrian Slavs for several decades. In fact, when people from other parts of Yugoslavia came to Istria to settle down there in the 60s and even 70s, they would normally have to learn Chakavian because so many of the locals didn't even speak any other forms of Croatian or Slavic.

Today, there are still tens of thousands of people who speak it in Istria (and many more in the diaspora). I'm one of them, and so are a lot of my Slavic relatives, so I know what I'm talking about. But you clearly don't. And this is just one of many examples. You've been wrong about pretty much everything and yet you keep posting the same nonsense over and over again, just like George Shitzgall usually does when he's proven wrong. What a remarkable transformation. From a valuable forum member to Shitzgall. Good grief...

@stewart-meadows He was valuable forum member??? I was not present that much in old forum. However, believe me he gonna try correct his mistakes. He already does. However, his aim is to sows hatred towards me. I have never meet him in personal but i know his way of thinking better than people i know in personal!

Posted by: @stewart-meadows

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This whole "debate" is ridiculous.

Yes, it is ridiculous because no matter how much I try to keep the debate in a normal tone, you always flame up more and more and are showing your butthurtedness and switching into ad hominem whenever you're out of facts. Well, I understand that you maybe have some roots from Istria/Balkans whatever and that you are trying to hold on to them because in fucking Canada, thousands of miles away, everyone is rootless, which is normal because it is a fucking two centuries old "Country/former colony" without any real ethnic identity.

But this will still not make you Croatian nor Istrian nor Italian nor whatever from this fucking area and you know jackshit about this region nor about this people nor about this language. I've been hundreds if not thousand of times in Istra (not fucking Istria)).  Yes, you are sentimental about it because of "the roots" and because of the lack of identity in Canada but claiming that you know more than me about fucking Istra, Dalmatia, Kordun, Lika, Banija, Baranja or Slavonia, that's fucking insane. I was born there, been raised there, witnessed a war there, I know the whole fucking Krajina (you can call it Croatia or whatever, I don't give a fuck) like the palm of my hand. Pula, Rovinj, Poreč, Novigrad, Umag, Pazin etc. been there, knew the people, knew the area, especially because many of my family members ended up on Goli Otok, which is close to Istra, and my whole family knew that area very well.

Also I said that the fucking čakavski dialect has almost and i repeat ALMOST disappeared because even by the linguistic scholars it was around 23% before WWII and after WWII it fell to 12% in the 1950's (but in reality it was even lower). Now, even if we consider a 10% fall in that number, that's a huge fucking number with at least -700.000 people. And yes, Tito's cleanses in Istria had a huge impact on that decline just like his linguistic politics to homogenize the "Yugoslavian language" from Vardar to Triglav. Even the fucking Slovenians had to learn and use the "Yugoslavian" which was totally different from their Slovenian language because it is basically the language which today both Serbians and Croatians are speaking and you can call it whatever the fuck you want, I don't give a damn. And speaking about remarkable transformation, from a remarkable forum member to a native English speaking Canadian with the identity crisis, who tries to lecture me about my own fucking neck of the woods and about my native language (which is spoken by Serbians and Croatians alike and they perfectly understand each other). Yeah, good grief.....

@dominus I have list of my relatives which sent on ,,Goli Otok'' 10 people and close relatives of general colonel Đuro...and national hero of Yugoslavia. He helped majority to get them out from hell of Goli Otok. However, two of relatives stayed much longer and one died there and he only should say i accept Tito.
Blažo...I responded you about my origins so you can't say i wasn't correct to you again.
You are Krajšnik, @stewart-meadows i know people from his regions and they lost everything in war against Croatia in 1990s. I mean, i still don't know who he is i know a lot of his countryman as well as their mentality. Dominus no one here is fault because Slobo Milošević told I will not send the army to fight against Croats...Aha this one of reasons you hate me because Milošević is originally from Vasojević Tribe, part of my bloodline.
You HATE me and you still know i done some good things for Serbian story, precisely Serbian! I want to talk about my fatherland and partially motherland Montenegro, you have write Montenegro because this is English.
I have picture from documentary about ,,Goli Otok'' with Jovo Kapičić, i stop and take a picture of my relatives and i wrote on haplogroups thread mine. 
Here my English is very bad because i don't have nerves to correct every word. you didn't deserve.
 

Posted by: @dominus

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Well, I understand that you maybe have some roots from Istria/Balkans whatever and that you are trying to hold on to them because in fucking Canada, thousands of miles away, everyone is rootless, which is normal because it is a fucking two centuries old "Country/former colony" without any real ethnic identity.

I'm not sure what you're talking about here. I'm not from Canada, I've never even been to that country (although I have been to the US, as a tourist).

But this will still not make you Croatian nor Istrian nor Italian nor whatever from this fucking area and you know jackshit about this region nor about this people nor about this language.

I've told my story on the old VNN forum, and I can repeat it here, if you want. I'm from the historical Italian region known as Venezia Giulia, which is (or was) comprised of North-Eastern Italy, Western Slovenia and Western Croatia. My ethnicity is mostly Italian, I was born on the Italian side of the border, but I also have relatives on the Slavic side, and I've spent a lot of time with them (pretty much every summer since I was a kid), so I speak Chakavian (čakavski) - or Istrian (istrijanski), as we call it - in addition to my native Italian and Venetian languages. I don't have any ties to Canada, as you keep claiming.

Also I said that the fucking čakavski dialect has almost and i repeat ALMOST disappeared 

See, this is why I said that you've turned into George Shitzgall: you're still refusing to admit that you were completely wrong when you absurdly claimed that "after WWII Tito cleansed Istria from Italians and with it the "Čakavski" almost disappeared".

As I already told you, Chakavian continued to be spoken by local Istrian Slavs, usually as their first language, for several decades, so you're wrong about that, for starters. But why bring up Italians? The only possible explanation is that you bizarrely seem to think that they spoke Chakavian, and that their expulsion from Istria meant that the Chakavian dialect disappeared with them. This is an absurd claim because, as I already told you, these Italians spoke Italian/Venetian, while Chakavian (which is a Slavic dialect) was spoken by the local Slavs (Croats) who largely remined in Istria after WWII. Instead of admitting that you were wrong, you keep repeating your initial falsehood, just like Shitzgall does when he is caught in one of his many pro-jewish lies. That's astonishing.

I've been hundreds if not thousand of times in Istra (not fucking Istria))

Now you're just being petty and silly. Yes, I know that this region is called Istra in Croatian, but VNN is an English-language forum, so I use the English name which is Istria. Also, it's called Istria in Italian and in several Istrian dialects, so it still wouldn't be wrong of me to use that spelling.

@stewart-meadows you turned a blind eye on 90% of what I said, reacted to 10% with some nonsense which I already proved to be total bs and you compare me with that Jewish faggot? Now that's tough.....