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Top, Gary Tramontina for The New York Times; photographs by The Birmingham News, via Associated Press
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/09/national/09arson.html?hp&ex=1141966800&en=454a9c72d457af49&ei=5094&partner=homepage

The three college students arrested Wednesday by federal agents in the Alabama church fires, clockwise from top, Matthew Lee Cloyd, 20, arriving in custody at the courthouse; Benjamin N. Mosely, 19; and Russell L. DeBusk Jr., also 19.

Two students, Benjamin N. Moseley and Russell L. DeBusk Jr., both 19, from Birmingham-Southern College, were arrested on the campus after admitting their involvement in the fires to federal agents, officials said.

The agents were led to the students by tire tracks at several burned churches, officials said.

Several hours later, the authorities arrested Matthew Lee Cloyd, 20, a student at the University of Alabama, Birmingham, whose mother owns the Toyota 4Runner that left the tracks, federal agents said in an affidavit with the criminal complaint.

The identities surprised investigators, who had speculated that the fires were the work of people familiar with the remote rural roads where the blazes were set, not products of the Birmingham upper middle class, one the son of a doctor and another of a county constable.

The Hilltop News, the campus newspaper, published yesterday under the headline "Theater Students to Appear in Film" an article that started, "BSC students Russ DeBusk and Ben Moseley are on the road to stardom."

The students were planning to appear in a locally produced independent film about a young man played by Mr. DeBusk who struggled to motivate his slacker friends.

Jenna Wright, who had worked on theatrical productions with Mr. Moseley, said she had a hard time connecting someone who would burn churches with the talented young man whom she knew.

"I am just completely in shock," Ms. Wright said. "This is just so sad. He had so much potential."

The three suspects had their own pages on Facebook.com, a networking Web site for college and high-school students.

To my dearest friend Moseley:

"The nights have grown long and the interstates of Alabama drunk driverless, the state troopers bored, the county sheriffs less weary, and the deer of Bibb County fearless. 2006 is here, it is time to reconvene the season of evil! Only one problem stands in our way. I got a new cellphone for Christmas and I no longer have your number, so send it to me and evil shall once again come to pass!

"May our girlfriends be concerned about our safety, may our parents be clueless, may our beers be frosty, may our love lives be fruitful, may our weed be green as the freshly mowed grass!"

According to an affidavit signed by Walker Johnson, a special agent at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, analysis of the tire tracks led agents on Tuesday to the home of Michael and Kimberly Cloyd on the south side of Birmingham.

The tracks matched a set of tires that were specially ordered for Ms. Cloyd's 4Runner. Ms. Cloyd told agents that her son Matthew was the principal driver of the S.U.V.

Ms. Cloyd told agents that her son had told her he had not set the fires but that he knew who did, the affidavit said, adding that Dr. Cloyd related that his son told him on Tuesday that he had been present at the arsons and knew who set them.

A witness, unnamed in the affidavit, told agents that Matthew Cloyd said he and Mr. Moseley "had done something stupid," adding that it was something that Mr. Moseley had done "as a joke, and it got out of hand."

Agents later interviewed Mr. Moseley who, they said, admitted setting the five fires in Bibb County with Mr. Cloyd and Mr. DeBusk.

"Moseley stated that after they set fire to the first two churches, they saw fire trucks driving by" Mr. Johnson's affidavit said. "Moseley said that, after that, burning the other three churches became too spontaneous."

Agents said Mr. Moseley told them that just he and Mr. Cloyd had participated in the second group of fires, four days later.

"These four churches were burned as a diversion, to throw investigators off," Mr. Johnson wrote in his affidavit. "Moseley said the diversion obviously did not work."

Mr. DeBusk admitted being present at the five arsons on Feb. 3, as well as kicking in the doors of two churches. He said the three men had been shooting deer in Mr. Cloyd's S.U.V. before the fires.

At a news conference in the hangar at the Tuscaloosa County Airport that was the headquarters for the investigation, the special agent in charge for the firearms bureau, James Cavanaugh, said officials had sifted through more than 1,000 leads involving nearly 500 vehicles and 1,300 individuals before the unexpected break that led them to the Cloyds.

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Posted : 09/03/2006 5:56 am
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Ben Moseley

Russell DeBusk

Benjamin Moseley and Russell Lee DeBusk Jr., both 19. Moseley and DeBusk, both students at the Birmingham Southern College, were arrested and arraigned earlier in the day, facing charges of conspiracy and individual counts in the arsons at five Bibb County churches and four in west Alabama, officials said.


 
Posted : 09/03/2006 6:16 am
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Ben Moseley

Russell DeBusk

Benjamin Moseley and Russell Lee DeBusk Jr., both 19. Moseley and DeBusk, both students at the Birmingham Southern College, were arrested and arraigned earlier in the day, facing charges of conspiracy and individual counts in the arsons at five Bibb County churches and four in west Alabama, officials said.

I detect a strong jewstench emanating from those two punks. Before they were caught, I thought the fact that Baptist churches were targeted exclusively might be indicative of Satanists, fags or other pinks pissed over the Baptists' staunch social conservatism. If the little bastards are kikes, that would definitely cover the pinks category.


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Posted : 09/03/2006 6:33 am
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These college kids whether they were jews or not were just pranksters. With spring break coming up, they decided to make a spectacle in they're endeavor as so many undisciplined and out of control college kids do in spring break .

These kids will not be charged with hate crimes. Rather, as pranksters who mocked the “sacred church”that in the last few centuries, opposed decadence/materialism/usury . Yet, the synagogue is the opposite from the pole, there- by such acts of degradation is charged with hate crime.


 
Posted : 09/03/2006 7:42 am
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Amazing how people here become God-fearing, church-going X-tians all of a sudden.

Apparently, all of Alex Linder's ranting against X-tianity hasn't sunk in. Oh wait, y'all probably don't actually read any of his articles - you just come here to talk shit.

Fuck those churches. I was hoping to see a few dozen more burn to the ground. Churchgoers are generally morons. There's nothing to lament in regard to these arsons. Well done, I say, well done.

Let me ask all you instant wanna-be Christians something. Since you don't like live jews, how can you claim to revere one that's been dead for two-thousand years?

I must have missed all those spintros, articles, and posts where Alex Linder advocated burning churches. Care to cite some? Or do they only exist in the fevered imaginations of agent provocateurs trolling for dupes and patsies?

It's perfectly consistent to be against Christianity and also to be against burning churches. If you have to have "why" this is so explained to you, you are too far gone mentally to be helped.


 
Posted : 09/03/2006 8:33 am
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I detect a strong jewstench emanating from those two punks. Before they were caught, I thought the fact that Baptist churches were targeted exclusively might be indicative of Satanists, fags or other pinks pissed over the Baptists' staunch social conservatism. If the little bastards are kikes, that would definitely cover the pinks category.

There's no Jewstench off any of these. You usually don't have to guess when you meet an Alabama Jew, believe me. They're much less mixed than the New York types. But these are theater majors, which gives me a hint of something-else-stench (hint: it rhymes with 'wag')


 
Posted : 09/03/2006 10:08 am
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I must have missed all those spintros, articles, and posts where Alex Linder advocated burning churches. Care to cite some?

LOL, well, I should have known better than to possibly expect a rational response to my post. Instead, someone wants to play word games - OK.
I didn't say that Mr. Linder has ever advocated burning churches, or advocated any other criminal act.
What he does do, on a rather routine basis as a matter of fact, is disparage the turncheeck attitude of the various X-tian denominations, especially their positions in regard to the jews, but also in regard to other social issues. For the record, I don't have a problem with his views on this, I agree with it.

What you're "missing", grep14w, is the hypocrisy of people on this board, constantly lamenting the pro-jewish attitude of mainstream Christianity, only to complain when some of said Christianity's churches get torched.


 
Posted : 09/03/2006 5:09 pm
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They are heading for hard time, a theatre of a different order.


 
Posted : 09/03/2006 5:41 pm
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There's no Jewstench off any of these. You usually don't have to guess when you meet an Alabama Jew, believe me. They're much less mixed than the New York types. But these are theater majors, which gives me a hint of something-else-stench (hint: it rhymes with 'wag')

It's spelled F-A-G-S. Fags, the crybabies that the jews used to get hate crime laws passed. Singling victims out, and all that. Ironic, if true.

The three should get let off for this, being priests and warriors of the New World Order.


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Posted : 09/03/2006 6:37 pm
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You know, according to some around here, gay sex was an ancient pagan ceremony, right? Maybe the Aryan warrior types around here who only dream of burning churches and killing Christians need to go get french-kissed or something more drastic by these fag papa warriors, so they can 'pass their energy' on to you baby warriors. Hahaha!


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Posted : 09/03/2006 8:58 pm
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Here's some more:

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=8226

Seems that the jewstench is getting thicker and thicker.


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Posted : 11/03/2006 7:00 am
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Nation
The Unusual Suspects
Arrests of three promising college students in the Alabama church burnings have people asking, Why?
By JYOTI [judy?] THOTTAM

Mar. 20, 2006

Mar. 20, 2006
When Alabama churches were bombed or burned in the South in the 1960s, the reason was never a mystery. The racist violence of those years was meant to intimidate the African Americans who met in the churches, and you didn't need a guilty perpetrator, or even a suspect, to know that. Forty years later, after a new wave of church fires in Alabama, a twist ending to the story has residents stunned and confused.

Federal agents last week arrested three college students from the prosperous Birmingham suburbs--sons of a doctor, a constable and a plant manager--accusing them of setting ablaze nine churches, home to both black and white congregations, in the rural counties around Birmingham in February. "It's hard to believe it was these kinds of kids," says Greene County sheriff Johnny Isaac. Most expected a troubled loner to emerge as the suspect. A volunteer firefighter pleaded guilty to an earlier series of burnings in 1996; a self-professed Satanist is in prison for similar crimes in 1999.

Instead, the three alleged arsonists, who have all been charged with federal conspiracy to burn churches, were popular college kids with big dreams and real talents. Matthew Cloyd, 20, was a premed student at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, to which he transferred last year. An avid deer hunter and a high school math-honor-society student, Cloyd remained close to two friends he met during his freshman and sophomore years at Birmingham-Southern College, Russell DeBusk and Benjamin Moseley. The 19-year-old theater majors were a tight pair at the small liberal-arts school, which is affiliated with the United Methodist Church. Known as extroverted cutups with a bit of a wild side, they were described in the campus newspaper as budding actors "on the road to stardom." Moseley, a high school homecoming king and senior-class president, two years ago spent a week helping rebuild a church in Louisiana on a mission with his church, Huffman United Methodist. Says church member Beth O'Donnell, a mother of four who was often host to Moseley in her home: "He is a kind and gentle soul, a bit impulsive, but nobody thought it would turn such a way."

The three friends boasted about their partying adventures on the popular social-networking site facebook.com "He said he was interested in Satanism," says Jeremy Burgess, 19, DeBusk's dormitory roommate. But one "demon hunting" trip amounted to little more than an excuse to drink in the woods. According to court documents, Cloyd, DeBusk and Moseley set the first five fires as a joke after a night of drinking and shooting at deer, then torched four more churches 100 miles away to throw police off their trail. A lawyer for Cloyd described him as "remorseful" but would not comment on his guilt or innocence.

James Cavanaugh, regional Special Agent in Charge for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, says the crime bears the marks of "thrill and excitement" arson rather than a prank. The fires, for example, were carefully set from inside the churches, not outside, as in an impulsive act of vandalism. At Old Union Baptist Church in Bibb County, a large artificial-flower arrangement had been moved to the piano top, under an American flag, presumably to serve as tinder.

It was old-fashioned police work that led to the arrests. Investigators made casts of identical tire tracks at six churches, matching the pattern and size to a database of manufacturers. That narrowed the field to Toyota 4Runners and similar SUVs, and agents then methodically interviewed everyone in the nearby counties who owned such a vehicle. By the second week of March, they had questioned Cloyd's mother. Investigators say Cloyd cracked first, to his parents, who informed authorities; Moseley filled in the details for police. The three boys face five-to-20-year sentences per count if convicted.

The absence of any apparent racial motive for the crimes is a small comfort in Birmingham. But the demise of the churches, some more than 100 years old, is still painful. "I began to sense loss for our older people," says Jim Parker, pastor at Ashby Baptist in Bibb County. "They were baptized and married here, and their people are buried here," he says. "But when the children started really crying, I realized it was all they had ever known too." Some things have changed in Alabama, but grief remains the same.

—With reporting by Greg Fulton/Atlanta, Frank Sikora/Birmingham, Reported by Verna Gates


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Posted : 06/04/2006 2:49 pm
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Well the skunk thinks they're plenty jewey. http://judicialinc.biz/church_fires_in_alabama.htm

Edit: Don't know why clicking on that won't work, but type it into the search bar, and you'll get it.


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Posted : 07/04/2006 3:46 am
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/07/world/middleeast/07cnd-iraq.html?hp&ex=1144468800&en=c01de98fd3393c3f&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Bomb Explodes Inside a Shiite Mosque in Baghdad

Published: April 7, 2006
BAGHDAD, Iraq, April 7 — A bomb exploded inside a Baghdad mosque linked to the largest Shiite political party today, a day after a car bomb killed 10 people near a mosque in a part of Najaf that Shiites consider the heart of their religion.

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Ironically, even the Mosque" are been firebomb.Both the Christian Church” and Muslim Mosque" share a common faith. Meaning both opposes usury, decadence, and materialism which the Jewish Synogue stands for. The Puritans had a code of laws very close to sharia.


 
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