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The Sunday Times June 11, 2006
Beware: the new goths are coming
Peter Almond
ONE of Britain’s most senior military strategists has warned that western civilisation faces a threat on a par with the barbarian invasions that destroyed the Roman empire.
In an apocalyptic vision of security dangers, Rear Admiral Chris Parry said future migrations would be comparable to the Goths and Vandals while north African "barbary" pirates could be attacking yachts and beaches in the Mediterranean within 10 years.
Europe, including Britain, could be undermined by large immigrant groups with little allegiance to their host countries — a "reverse colonisation" as Parry described it. These groups would stay connected to their homelands by the internet and cheap flights. The idea of assimilation was becoming redundant, he said.
The warnings by Parry of what could threaten Britain over the next 30 years were delivered to senior officers and industry experts at a conference last week. Parry, head of the development, concepts and doctrine centre at the Ministry of Defence, is charged with identifying the greatest challenges that will frame national security policy in the future.
If a security breakdown occurred, he said, it was likely to be brought on by environmental destruction and a population boom, coupled with technology and radical Islam. The result for Britain and Europe, Parry warned, could be "like the 5th century Roman empire facing the Goths and the Vandals".
Parry pointed to the mass migration which disaster in the Third World could unleash. "The diaspora issue is one of my biggest current concerns," he said. "Globalisation makes assimilation seem redundant and old-fashioned . . . [the process] acts as a sort of reverse colonisation, where groups of people are self-contained, going back and forth between their countries, exploiting sophisticated networks and using instant communication on phones and the internet."
Third World instability would lick at the edges of the West as pirates attacked holidaymakers from fast boats. "At some time in the next 10 years it may not be safe to sail a yacht between Gibraltar and Malta," said the admiral.
Parry, 52, an Oxford graduate who was mentioned in dispatches in the Falklands war, is not claiming all the threats will come to fruition. He is warning, however, of what is likely to happen if dangers are not addressed by politicians.
Parry — who used the slogan "old dog, new tricks" when he commanded the assault ship HMS Fearless — foresees wholesale moves by the armed forces to robots, drones, nanotechnology, lasers, microwave weapons, space-based systems and even "customised" nuclear and neutron bombs.
Lord Boyce, the former chief of the defence staff, welcomed Parry’s analysis. "Bringing it together in this way shows we have some very serious challenges ahead," he said. "The real problem is getting them taken seriously at the top of the government."
Ancient Rome has been a subject of serious public discussion this year. Boris Johnson, the Conservative MP and journalist, produced a book and television series drawing parallels between the European Union and the Roman empire. Terry Jones, the former Monty Python star, meanwhile, has spoken up for the barbarians’ technological and social achievements in a television series and has written:
We actually owe far more to the so-called ‘barbarians’ than we do to the men in togas."
Parry, based in Shrivenham, Wiltshire, presented his vision at the Royal United Services Institute in central London. He identified the most dangerous flashpoints by overlaying maps showing the regions most threatened by factors such as agricultural decline, booming youth populations, water shortages, rising sea levels and radical Islam.
Parry predicts that as flood or starvation strikes, the most dangerous zones will be Africa, particularly the northern half; most of the Middle East and central Asia as far as northern China; a strip from Nepal to Indonesia; and perhaps eastern China.
He pinpoints 2012 to 2018 as the time when the current global power structure is likely to crumble. Rising nations such as China, India, Brazil and Iran will challenge America’s sole superpower status.
This will come as "irregular activity" such as terrorism, organised crime and "white companies" of mercenaries burgeon in lawless areas.
The effects will be magnified as borders become more porous and some areas sink beyond effective government control.
Parry expects the world population to grow to about 8.4 billion in 2035, compared with 6.4 billion today. By then some 68% of the population will be urban, with some giant metropolises becoming ungovernable. He warns that Mexico City could be an example.
In an effort to control population growth, some countries may be tempted to copy China’s "one child" policy. This, with the widespread preference for male children, could lead to a ratio of boys to girls of as much as 150 to 100 in some countries. This will produce dangerous surpluses of young men with few economic prospects and no female company.
"When you combine the lower prospects for communal life with macho youth and economic deprivation you tend to get trouble, typified by gangs and organised criminal activity," said Parry. "When one thinks of 20,000 so-called jihadists currently fly-papered in Iraq, one shudders to think where they might go next."
The competition for resources, Parry argues, may lead to a return to "industrial warfare" as countries with large and growing male populations mobilise armies, even including cavalry, while acquiring high-technology weaponry from the West.
The subsequent mass population movements, Parry argues, could lead to the "Rome scenario". The western Roman empire collapsed in the 4th and 5th centuries as groups such as Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Suevi, Huns and Vandals surged over its borders. The process culminated in the sack of Rome in 455 by Geiseric the Lame, king of the Alans and Vandals, in an invasion from north Africa.
Parry estimated at the conference there were already more than 70 diasporas in Britain.
In the future, he believes, large groups that become established in Britain and Europe after mass migration may develop "communities of interest" with unstable or anti-western regions.
Any technological advantage developed to deal with the threats was unlikely to last. "I don’t think we can win in cyberspace — it’s like the weather — but we need to have a raincoat and an umbrella to deal with the effects," said Parry.
Some of the consequences would be beyond human imagination to tackle. The examples he gave, tongue-in-cheek, include: "No wind on land and sea; third of population dies instantly; perpetual darkness; sores; Euphrates dries up ‘to clear way for kings from the east’; earth’s core opens."
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Rear Admiral Chris Parry is the armed forces’ chief “blue skies” thinker.
Parry, 52, was educated at the independent Portsmouth grammar school and at Jesus College, Oxford. During the Falklands war in 1982, he was mentioned in dispatches while serving with the Fleet Air Arm on the destroyer HMS Antrim.
Parry is one of Britain’s leading specialists on amphibious warfare. He once commanded the assault ship HMS Fearless, was in charge of amphibious warfare training at Portsmouth naval base and headed a joint British-Dutch taskforce before moving to his post at the Ministry of Defence.
The admiral heads the development, concepts and doctrine centre, set up in 1998 and based at Shrivenham, Wiltshire. It has more than 50 staff and is being expanded to include extra analysts.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2220267,00.html
Posted : 12/06/2006 9:28 am
Yes, they're coming, run for your life.
Posted : 12/06/2006 10:13 am
The "mass migration" threat described by Parry seems rather similiar to one of the scenarios described in Chittum's Civil War II. In Chittum's view, potential governmental collapse within Mexico and its resultant anarchy may drive massive human waves of Mexican "refugees" across the Southern border, creating avenues for all manner of havoc within the U.S.
Posted : 12/06/2006 10:51 am
Welp, there goes that hideout. 
Posted : 12/06/2006 12:37 pm
Yes, they're coming, run for your life.
We are fucking doomed.
Posted : 12/06/2006 12:39 pm
Please remember that all the years the Church was running things in Europe, nobody had to worry about any of this, or if the problems did crop up, they were dealt with.
Why the power elite from Oxford always like to sell the Roman Empire to the Christian world is puzzling? Don't people in Britain identify a whole lot more with Church of England then the Roman Empire? Christianity civilized everybody, even Goths, yet, the Power Elite skip over Christian Europe/Christendom and go from Roman Empire to Zionist Empire, as if these two things are the same.
"Go, Nazis, Go!"
Posted : 12/06/2006 12:51 pm
Britain’s most senior military strategists should be more worried about the filthy jews that have taken over their country, then these panty-waist so-called goths of today. Today's goths are nothing more then measly societal aberrations brought about by the jew infection. Self indulgent, weak and worthless slugs, they are jew-manufactured shallow clowns with no minds of their own. There is no fire in the belly here of the authentic barbarian, only self-mutilating parrots who put on over-priced stupid-looking mall-bought clothes, because the jew tells them to.
The Goths of old were real bad asses.
The ink of the learned is as precious as the blood of the martyr. For one drop of ink may make millions think.
Posted : 12/06/2006 1:34 pm
Abzug Hoffman, shut up about xtianity. It has nothing to do with this thread. Are you one of those xtian fanatics who just have to rub their religion in everybody's faces no matter what the topic?
By the way - your slave morality has converted non-Whites from day one, 2,000 years ago, and kept doing it every single year since then. Suck on that.
Posted : 12/06/2006 2:14 pm
Parry, based in Shrivenham, Wiltshire, presented his vision at the Royal United Services Institute in central London. He identified the most dangerous flashpoints by overlaying maps showing the regions most threatened by factors such as agricultural decline, booming youth populations, water shortages, rising sea levels and radical Islam.
Parry predicts that as flood or starvation strikes, the most dangerous zones will be Africa, particularly the northern half][color="Red"]He pinpoints 2012 to 2018 as the time when the current global power structure is likely to crumble. Rising nations such as China, India, Brazil and Iran will challenge America’s sole superpower status.
This will come as "irregular activity" such as terrorism, organised crime and "white companies" of mercenaries burgeon in lawless areas.
The effects will be magnified as borders become more porous and some areas sink beyond effective government control.
Very fascinating reading, and I don't doubt that he has a lot of history and examples to back it up. In fact, he is simply describing what has happened many other times, though not always on such a large scale.
The one thing to criticize is that he seems to view Islamism as something powered by an internal engine that just goes on and on. In fact, it is simply a response, expressed through religion, to the puppet governments left behind by the colonizers in the Middle East, and lately against the Western powers that support those puppets. So for example have many Saudis joined al-Qaeda because they want to rid their territory of the corrupt House of Saud. And then it becomes necessary to cut off American economic and diplomatic support of the Sauds, and get American military bases out of the country. Once they get that, they'll start reorganizing their country, and won't care much about what happens in Europe or anywhere else.
Also, I doubt the immigrants will have that much contact with their homelands. Why would they? Their homelands don't much care about them, and in fact they often come from unwelcome minorities in their homelands. I have never heard of a Middle Eastern government taking any interest in how those who ran from the country are living in Europe.
Nevertheless, the article provides a welcome break in the "everything is fine, resistance is futile" litany that we normally hear. I wonder how the audience reacted!
2012-2018 ... man I hope so. Anything to end the current blind sickness, it's like living in a nightmare. Even if massive unrest breaks out and Whites are killed in the millions, that is preferable, because at least then the Whites around us will see the truth about race. Hell is when the people you are fighting for hate you for it.
Posted : 12/06/2006 2:25 pm
The Goths of old were real bad asses.
I prefer my Goths loud, brutal and Japanese:
(NFTW, NSFW, Just not safe at all)
Do I need a vacation yet you think? 
Posted : 12/06/2006 3:05 pm
The Goths of old were real bad asses.
Not really. I watched a documentary on the History channel, the Goths were basicly the scum of Europe, the Romans were trying to exterminate them, starve them to death by taking all their farmlands, it was only when they were about to be exterminated, that they rose up and captured alot of arms, and when they sent a Roman Legion to put down the rebellion, they killed the Roman Emperor, who happened to be there and the front line got broken through, and they nailed the Roman Emperor.
Being called a Goth was like being called a nigger in the Roman Empire,....until they destroyed a Roman Legion and killed the Emperor.
I guess my point is, they went from being the most ridiculed and abused group, to a somewhat respected group, AFTER they were near extinction from starvation and cold.
Posted : 12/06/2006 3:43 pm
Not really. I watched a documentary on the History channel, the Goths were basicly the scum of Europe,
You mean the History Channel called the Swedish-derived Goths scum? Then it must be true!
The Visigoths were victorious like few others, marching down from southern Sweden and northern Germany, where they had also settled, across a Europe in perpetual war and into the rotten Roman Empire, then to the Iberian peninsula where they set themselves up as a ruling class. Scum? Pretty hardcore if you ask me.
By the way, here is an essay on the Ostrogoths, who first went south and established a kingdom on the plains of Ukraine, then made up some of the strongest troops in the Hunnic empire with Gothic forming a lingua franca among its peoples, then went on to fight the Byzantines for a while, then went as their proxy army to invade Western Rome:
http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/Families/Family/45285
Theodoric proved a wise and capable ruler, restoring law and order to Italy and ruling both his Roman and Ostrogothic subjects according to their own laws. He dominated the former Western Empire through a combination of diplomacy, marriage alliances with other tribes and military strength and in his reign learning and culture flourished.
A violent, and fascinating, history. The last Goths in the Crimean peninsula stopped speaking their language in the 1200s. It is a great shame that Europe has lost these titans: they are one of those people simply too fascinating to lose. But it seems the great Yahweh has decided that after we lost India and Persia and Arabia back in ancient times, we are also to see our own Europe growing darker and darker until nothing is left and even our own kind is just made up of ugly mud.
Posted : 12/06/2006 5:32 pm
Are you one of those xtian fanatics who just have to rub their religion in everybody's faces no matter what the topic?
Yes he is. No thread is so obscure that Abzug can't bring his Big Sky Jew in on it.
“When I get re-elected I'm going to fuck the Jews" -- Jimmy Carter, 1980.
Posted : 12/06/2006 6:33 pm
The "mass migration" threat described by Parry seems rather similiar to one of the scenarios described in Chittum's Civil War II. In Chittum's view, potential governmental collapse within Mexico and its resultant anarchy may drive massive human waves of Mexican "refugees" across the Southern border, creating avenues for all manner of havoc within the U.S.
Excellent you remembered Chittum. I always thought his book was the true underground bestseller of the 90s.
Chittum actually underestimated the venality of the bastards in charge of Western countries, if you think about it. He assumed the Hordes of Mestizos would be met by some resistance. He probably ain't surprised that the US Government and the Ford Foundation (and their counterparts in the UK, Europe and so on) would open the gates.
The "new goths" would never have gotten in without our very own rats in high places. The highest places, as a matter of fact.
“When I get re-elected I'm going to fuck the Jews" -- Jimmy Carter, 1980.
Posted : 12/06/2006 6:41 pm
Abzug Hoffman, shut up about xtianity. It has nothing to do with this thread. Are you one of those xtian fanatics who just have to rub their religion in everybody's faces no matter what the topic?
By the way - your slave morality has converted non-Whites from day one, 2,000 years ago, and kept doing it every single year since then. Suck on that.
I'm just pointing out the way the juden-press always confuses the real issue at hand. England's glory years were not the Roman Empire years.
"Go, Nazis, Go!"
Posted : 12/06/2006 9:16 pm