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This bunch of scallowags in Franklin, Tennessee, are having a commemoration of the Battle Of Franklin this Thursday, and they had the UNMITIGATED GALL to actually pass a resolution forbidding the re-enactors from carrying the antique weapons they usually carry, and the Confederate re-enactors from flying the Battle Flag!!! 
They knew this would, undoubtedly, lead to protests, so they decided to set up a little "protest pen" several blocks away from where the actual event is to take place. They have made it clear that any protester who refuses to be corralled in this pen like a good little bovine *WILL* be arrested.
IT IS TIME FOR SOME CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE HERE, PEOPLE!!! ARE WE GONNA LET THESE COMMIE BASTARDS GET AWAY WITH THIS, OR ARE WE GONNA FIGHT FOR OUR SOUTHERN CONFEDERACY??? :box:
Anyone living in East Tennessee, Southeast Kentucky, Southwest Virginia, or Eastern North Carolina who will be free this Thursday and would like to attend, please send me a PM, ASAP.:cheers:
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Rebel flag, guns not wanted at battle event
Franklin officials cite safety and sensitivity
By KEVIN WALTERS
Staff Writer
FRANKLIN — A Confederate battle flag and the crack of rifle fire were two of the sights and sounds Civil War soldiers faced 140 years ago.
Yet top Franklin officials contend those things, each fraught with modern symbolism and conflicts, should not be present during a Nov. 30 ceremony to commemorate those killed during the 1864 Battle of Franklin. 
Mayor Tom Miller is urging that a color guard planned for the event not fly the Confederate flag. Police Chief Jackie Moore wants re-enactors to keep their rifles away from the ceremony.
"In the strongest terms possible, let me suggest that flag not appear," Miller told officials Monday night during a committee meeting to approve funding for the event.
Afterward, Miller acknowledged he might face criticism.
But he said he wants to avoid controversy that might come from flying the flag.
Moore said he wants to keep rifles away because of security issues.
"I do have serious concerns about the safety and our being able as a police department to vouch that firearms used and borne in this event are safe," Moore said.
While both men say they want to avoid conflicts, their stances have raised thorny issues about race and history.
Some say flag simply reflects history
A leading advocate for battlefield preservation, Miller stressed that the flag doesn't carry any baggage with him personally, but that others might feel differently.
"It doesn't mean anything to me," said Miller about the Confederate flag. "I accept it for what it is. It's a historic emblem. But to a lot of people, it is an anathema. And we don't need anything that could potentially polarize our community like that could."
Miller's stance drew immediate support from the Rev. Denny Denson, an African-American pastor who believes the planned event would garner little support from black Franklin residents.
"I agree with him totally," Denson said. "The Civil War means one thing to the majority culture. It means another thing to African-Americans."
Plans call for members of the Huntsville, Ala.-based Olde Towne Brass band to divide its 14 members into two bands dressed in Union and Confederate uniforms and serenade the crowd gathered in Franklin's downtown square with songs popular in that era.
They would unite and play American anthems while the Confederate flag is lowered and the American flag raised, all by the light of 10,000 votive candles.
Bob Baccus said his band stays out of politics, doesn't fly flags and wants to educate.
"We try to be historically correct in everything we do and everything we play. We try to stay out of politics," Baccus said. "We want to play the music the way it was played 150 years ago. We try to educate our audience."
Black and white members of Franklin's Battlefield Task Force that designed the ceremony, as well as re-enactors, politicians and others, fired back at Miller's suggestion to keep flags away.
"If you're doing a ceremony where you're honoring men of two sides and you do away or ban the symbolism of one side, what does that do?" asked committee member Robin Hood, who said he dislikes how the Confederate flag has been used by hate groups who have "sort of kidnapped that flag" for their own uses. But erasing it from the event will cause only more problems, he feared.
Pearl Bransford, a longtime resident and committee member, supported the group's plan because it presents both sides of the fighting — and is a reminder of that war's hard-won, bloody lessons.
"Don't be afraid to talk about the Civil War," said Bransford, who is black. "It had a lot of ugliness in it. Out of that ugliness came freed people. There were people in bondage. … The Civil War freed me and my people. If it wasn't for the Civil War, I would be somebody's slave. And those days are over."
Meanwhile, Miller's comments left Williamson County Civil War re-enactor Ronny Mangrum, 49, outraged enough to reconsider his donation to help the city buy battlefield land in Franklin. Mangrum is known by many for his barefoot marches from Columbia to Franklin on the anniversary of the battle.
"How can we properly honor these men who fought and died for this flag because we're not allowed to carry one today because of political correctness?" Mangrum said. "My God, what in the world is happening to our town?"
Chief cites safety issues
Moore's problem with the events stems from the historically accurate guns that might be brought to the event by re-enactors and enthusiasts.
"My concern is for the safety of the re-enactors and anyone else who happens to be in attendance," Moore said. "Weapons, no matter what age they are, were designed in such a manner as to kill human beings."
Instead of re-enactors carrying rifles or firearms during the ceremony, Moore wants attendees to stack the arms beforehand outside the public square.
Moore's recommendation left Franklin Alderman Dana McLendon incredulous.
"They're six feet long and 200 years old," exclaimed McLendon. "We're not talking about people walking around with Glocks and AK (47)s."
Final approval for funding the ceremony, as well as a permit to hold it, has to be given by city officials.
These discussions may be inevitable as Franklin searches for new ways to mark the 1864 battle.
"The first year of trying to get the elephant up and dancing there are going to be these kinds of problems," said Joe Smyth, president of the nonprofit Save the Franklin Battlefield Inc.
"This is a matter of working it out with officials and staff. I would expect these issues." •
by Donald Sensing
Voltaire once remarked to an adversary, “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to death your right to say it.” Those words could never pass the lips of the city officials of my town of Franklin, Tenn. They seem to believe in crushing our right to say anything they don’t approve of.
On Nov. 30 a commemoration of 1864’s Battle of Franklin is planned. I recounted yesterday the major local controversy over Mayor Tom Miller’s edict that the Confederate battle flag may not be displayed, but that the “Stainless Banner” flag must be used. Note: Miller hasn’t simply banned city sponsorship of displays of the battle flag; he had directed that private citizens may not display it, either.
There’s an old saying that tyranny exists when that which is not forbidden is required. Study that sentence, Mayor Miller. You have on the one hand forbidden one kind of speech and on the other required other speech. That’s a terrible two-fer.
But it gets much worse. The Tennessean reports today,[INDENT]Franklin city attorney Doug Berry would not comment but said a “First Amendment area” will be set aside during the ceremony for people who may want to express their views.
[/INDENT]A “First Amendment area“? Mr. Berry, the entire United States is a First Amendment area! You have no authority to decide where a citizen may or may not exercise his/her Constitutional rights! They are not yours to grant - they come from Almighty God himself!
This is creeping tyranny, and I hope my fellow Franklin residents awaken to this danger. I call for Mayor Miller and Mr. Berry to resign immediately.
I am reminded of the 2004 Bush campaign when the Secret Service established “free speech zones” for protestors. These zones were always well away from where the president would be speaking. I lambasted them then and said at the time that George W. Bush was no champion of free speech. SFGate reported then,[INDENT]The ACLU, along with several other organizations, is suing the Secret Service for what it charges is a pattern and practice of suppressing protesters at Bush events in Arizona, California, Connecticut, Michigan, New Jersey, New Mexico, Texas and elsewhere. The ACLU’s Witold Walczak said of the protesters, “The individuals we are talking about didn’t pose a security threat; they posed a political threat.”
[/INDENT]Memo to the ACLU: Franklin is about 15 miles south of Nashville. Call me.
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Posted @ 8:49 am. Filed under Law & Politics, State & Local
Civil War re-enactor Ronny Mangrum objects to keeping the Confederate flag out of the November ceremony. "You can't change history. It's better to educate," he says. (LARRY MCCORMACK / THE TENNESSEAN)
WHAT'S PLANNEDIf approved, the 142nd anniversary of the Battle of Franklin would be celebrated on the town's public square.
Here's a proposed rundown of the day's events:
Noon: Franklin square closed to traffic. Local Boy Scouts place 10,000 votive candles across paved area of the square.
4 p.m.: Speech from Mayor Tom Miller
4:10 p.m.: Union military band approaches square from the north while a Confederate marching band approaches from the south.
4:20 p.m.: Bands play popular songs of the era.
4:45 p.m.: Bands march to the Confederate monument in the square and play American anthems.
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Posted : 30/11/-0001 12:00 am
"It doesn't mean anything to me," said Miller about the Confederate flag. "I accept it for what it is. It's a historic emblem. But to a lot of people, it is an anathema."
So if enough people consider the Stars & Strips an, er, "anathema" it would go, too?
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Posted : 28/11/2006 5:11 pm
"It doesn't mean anything to me," said Miller about the Confederate flag. "I accept it for what it is. It's a historic emblem. But to a lot of people, it is an anathema."
So if enough people consider the Stars & Strips an, er, "anathema" it would go, too?
"If it wasn't for the Civil War, I would be somebody's slave. And those days are over."
Look at it this way, Boy, slaves were fed and housed, cared for like valuable property. Your race can't handle freedom.
Silence is the virtue of fools.
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Posted : 28/11/2006 5:15 pm
If I were those town folk I would get as many people together as possible. Then when this piece of shit started his speach I wold have everyone pelt the bastard with tomatos and eggs and run that bastard out on a rail.
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Posted : 28/11/2006 6:05 pm
So if enough people consider the Stars & Strips an, er, "anathema" it would go, too?
It is. Take a look in mexiscum neighborhoods.
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Posted : 28/11/2006 6:21 pm
Mr. Slashnburn:
How about posting Mayor Millers' contact info so we can all give him a piece of our mind. Is this Miller a kike? I've known a few Millers' and they were.
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Posted : 28/11/2006 9:10 pm
The civil war wasnt even about freeing slaves, it was about states rights. Fucking basatards should be shot. Maybe we should ban all flags that are not the american falg if this is the case.
See the magic nigger here.
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Posted : 28/11/2006 10:04 pm
Bob Baccus said his band stays out of politics, doesn't fly flags and wants to educate."We try to be historically correct in everything we do and everything we play. We try to stay out of politics," Baccus said. "We want to play the music the way it was played 150 years ago. We try to educate our audience."
This asshole wants to stay out of politics and yet he wants to play music associated with the Civil War, arguably one of the most intense political times of our nation? The fact is that Bob Baccus is a sniveling little liar who’s afraid to offend some uppity niggers. That's obviously more important to him then anything historical.
And what about the rest of those involved in the reenactment? How can they bring themselves to be involved in such horse shit? Is Tennessee filled with nothing but homos anymore?
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Posted : 28/11/2006 10:49 pm
There is no doubt that the jews and their lackeys are deeply entrenched in Tennessee of all places. Then again, is that not a fertile and relatively unploughed land for the jew?
Shame on the Tennesseans for capitulating to the whims of a few local jew kiss-asses.
If there were ever a time for rifles and flags to be brought out against the tyrannical dictates of this scum, it is now.
Could this possibly be the shot heard around the world?
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Posted : 28/11/2006 11:06 pm
No way will a majority black and brown America tolerate the American flag. White men flew it while defeating Mexico and "stealing" a million square miles of land from Mexico. And it flew over a slave-holding America for almost a century, and then during decades of racial segregation and discrimination.
The vast majority of blacks and browns therefore, dispise the American flag. In their eyes, it's the White man's flag. And with the jews' blessing, they'll vote to replace it once they've become the majority. Probably even sooner, since millions of braindead Whites will support them, and the White lemmings too yellow to put up much of a public fuss.
“To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize” —–Voltaire
Posted : 29/11/2006 5:42 am
Even back in the 80's the Civil War enactors, Sons of the Confederacy (SCV), and other so-called "respectable" Southern groups were badmouthing White Nationalists for "hi-jacking our flag". And even then, they were too GD yellow themselves to carry it in public.
And when the ZOGs ban the Confederate flag altogether, these yellow "confederates" will blame us for the ban.
“To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize” —–Voltaire
Posted : 29/11/2006 6:05 am
Freedom means: use any symbol you want to use! So this is slavery.
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Posted : 29/11/2006 9:14 am
Thanks for the interest guys. :cheers: You gave me a lot to respond to. 
First of all, in response to burnjewburn:
If I were those town folk I would get as many people together as possible. Then when this piece of shit started his speach I wold have everyone pelt the bastard with tomatos and eggs and run that bastard out on a rail.
Well, brother, that is real easy to say, but the real question is: WHAT DO *YOU* INTEND TO DO ABOUT IT??? 
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From everything I've read, I get the impression that those "town folk" are just as bad as their mayor. They seem to actually be ASHAMED of the fact that a Civil War battle took place in their town. 
Even though they held a HUGE re-enactment back in October 2004, they apparently treated all the re-enactors that came there like dirt. It's like they have this schizophrenic attitude towards it. On the one hand, they like all the MONEY they get from the Civil War tourism, but they just can't seem to be able to stand what George Wallace once called the "taint" of the "old Confederacy" that inevitably goes along with it. Fucking idiots. 
But the thing of it is, it is *NOT* the people of Franklin, Tennessee, who will decide this, but, rather, the people of VNNForum, Soldiers Of The Confederacy, and the PokerFace forum. It will only take a handful of determined, militant individuals to turn their retarded little ceremony into the JOKE that we at least, all know it to be. :cheers:
Yes, the townsfolk will bitch and whine about "outside agitators invading their town", but so the fuck what? If it was good enough for a bunch of Commie niggers in the 60's, it ought to be good enough for us. 
Poetic justice, if you ask me. Serves the bastards right.
The Confederate flag and all that it stands for *ARE NOT* the property of a handful of self-loathing Southern scallowags in Franklin, Tennessee!!!! They are the property of *ALL* Southerners, and all the people whose ancestors fought for it. AND IT IS TIME TO TAKE THEM BACK!!! :cheers:
This effects *YOU*, damnit!!! It *CONCERNS* you!!! If they ban the Confederate flag in Tennessee today, they can ban it in Kentucky tommorrow!!! AND THEY *WILL*, TOO!!! Deep in your heart, you *KNOW* that!!!
In 2004 and 2005, I attended a semi-annual event called the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot, near Fort Knox, Kentucky. It was a 4 & 1/2 hour drive from my East Tennessee home. Now, if I can do that, just for a chance to hang out with my PokerFace pals and hear them perform, surely *YOU* can manage a 3 to 3 & 1/2 hour drive to not only WITNESS the next Concord and Lexington, but to actually PARTICIPATE in it? Or are you merely a TALKER, who secretly quails at the thought of action?
And, please, please *DO NOT* give me the tired old excuse of "having to work". Yeah, right. Whatever. Another day of jump-down-turn-around-pick-a-bale-of-whatever for Massa Hymie is jes' sho'ly, sho'ly mo' important than the Second American Revolution. Just talk to the left FINGER, buddy, cause you ain't right.
Now, to 2eyedJack, who said:"There is no doubt that the jews and their lackeys are deeply entrenched in Tennessee of all places. Then again, is that not a fertile and relatively unploughed land for the jew?
Shame on the Tennesseans for capitulating to the whims of a few local jew kiss-asses.
If there were ever a time for rifles and flags to be brought out against the tyrannical dictates of this scum, it is now.
Could this possibly be the shot heard around the world?"
Well, pardner, if it is, it looks like *I* will be the one firing it, and, unfortunately, probably all by myself, the way it's looking.
But, just for the benefit of all those reading this thread who *COULD*, theoretically make it out tommorrow, let me repeat: UNLESS *WE* START THE REVOLUTION, THERE *WILL NOT* BE ONE!!! Capisce? :cheers:
And, to brutus, who said:Quote:
Bob Baccus said his band stays out of politics, doesn't fly flags and wants to educate."We try to be historically correct in everything we do and everything we play. We try to stay out of politics," Baccus said. "We want to play the music the way it was played 150 years ago. We try to educate our audience."
"This asshole wants to stay out of politics and yet he wants to play music associated with the Civil War, arguably one of the most intense political times of our nation? The fact is that Bob Baccus is a sniveling little liar who’s afraid to offend some uppity niggers. That's obviously more important to him then anything historical.
And what about the rest of those involved in the reenactment? How can they bring themselves to be involved in such horse shit? Is Tennessee filled with nothing but homos anymore?"
Well, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one, and assume that either you didn't read my location, or simply didn't read the part where I stated that I *WILL* be going out there tommorrow, or, otherwise, were *NOT* referring to me as being one of your "homos", but, one way or the other, it's clear that you don't know much of Tennessee history, particularly regarding the Civil War. 
Tennessee is not Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, or any other *TYPICAL* Southern state, in that, from the very beginning, it has identified itself, not merely as a STATE, but as THREE SEPARATE REGIONS, making up a state. People do not refer to themselves as "Tennesseans" *AT ALL*, but, rather, as East Tennesseans, West Tennesseans, or Middle Tenneseans.
And, as far as EAST TENNESSEE is concerned, I can tell you from personal experience that these people here have been out-and-out *LIED TO* about the Confederate heritage of their region. All the fucking history books and history teachers tell the kids, from the earliest age, that East Tennessee, AS A WHOLE, was actually *PRO-UNION*, that is to say, *TRAITOROUS* during the War.
In fact, this is *NOT* true. On the contrary, my own personal research on the subject has led to the conclusion that only about *TWO COUNTIES* in East Tennessee, Knox County and Union County, had an actual MAJORITY of pro-Union people. All the counties in the Southern and Northeastern corners of the state were overwhelmingly *PRO-CONFEDERATE*, and most of the other counties were pretty much split down the middle.
So, the problem is, West Tennessee is infested with niggers, so you know they're *NOT* gonna stand up and defend THEIR Confederate heritage. They're too damn chickenshit.
Middle Tennessee is a mixed bag. I don't really know too much about it, as I've only been to Nashville three times in my life, and to Cumberland County twice, and I've never been in any of the other Middle counties at all, except just going 75 mph down an interstate en route to Nashville.
But, from my personal experience, I *KNOW* there are some movement folks out there in Middle Tennesse, and they're a lot less shy about TELLING you they're in the movement than people here in East Tennessee, too. So, hopefully, they'll be well represented there, and ready for a fight, but, the point is, DON'T COUNT ON IT!!! You see, the media has all but kept this story covered up. I mean, if you guys hadn't heard it from me, would *YOU* have ever heard about it? Probably not.
East Tennessee is the most "right-wing" of the three regions, if you define "right-wing" by the current state of the Republicunt Party, that is. Basically, you've got a bunch of gun-toting, nigger-hating rednecks who, otherwise, wouldn't have enough sense to come out of the rain, for the most part. I've known these people all my life, and it gives me *NO* pleasure whatsoever to say that, but it's true.
But the thing of it is, it's not a case of anybody (besides those candy-asses in West Tennessee, who truly *DESERVE* the epithet you hurled) being "a bunch of homos", nearly so much as the whole thing is just kind of a Catch-22. All the people who are most likely to actually *CARE* about the Confederate flag being banned have been brainwashed into thinking that THEIR ancestors actually fought for the UNION, and so, therefore. they *DON'T* care.
And, of course, if you *TOLD* them about it, although they would be pissed, once you told them it was on a Thursday, they would simply say: "Aw, shit, ah can't go to that." "Ah gotta go to work so ah can support mah wife/sister and her seven kids!!!" and that would be the end of it.
To Donnachaidh, who said:"Mr. Slashnburn:
How about posting Mayor Millers' contact info so we can all give him a piece of our mind. Is this Miller a kike? I've known a few Millers' and they were."
Sorry, but all I know about the event is what I posted before.
Not actually LIVING in Franklin, and, in fact, living a good 3 to 3 & 1/2 hrs away, I have no idea about contact info, and I would suspect that it would probably be EXTREMELY DIFFICULT for any non-citizen of Franklin to obtain it. As far as I know, they don't even have their own newspaper or anything.
And don't know whether he's a kike or not, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me.
And, finally, to the infamous Rounder, who said this:
"No way will a majority black and brown America tolerate the American flag. White men flew it while defeating Mexico and "stealing" a million square miles of land from Mexico. And it flew over a slave-holding America for almost a century, and then during decades of racial segregation and discrimination.
The vast majority of blacks and browns therefore, despise the American flag. In their eyes, it's the White man's flag. And with the jews' blessing, they'll vote to replace it once they've become the majority. Probably even sooner, since millions of braindead Whites will support them, and the White lemmings too yellow to put up much of a public fuss."
I say this:
It is *NOT* only niggers and "Mexiscum" who hate that ANTICHRIST SHITRAG that brainwashed peckerwoods of your misbegotten generation (such as yourself) actually fought and died for in Vietnam, which flew from those Sherman tanks at Waco, (while our so-called "fellow racialist", Tommy The Commie Metzger was actually *DEFENDING* their actions) at the actual time that they were crushing little White children beneath their treads, it is also every *THINKING* White man in this country, apparently EXCLUDING you.
When I attend that event tommorrow, I intend to *BURN* that shitrag, and, when I do, it will be a sign to this whole country that the WN movement is in the hands of a *NEW* generation, and the age of Der Boomenschwein is over.
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Posted : 29/11/2006 2:18 pm
RE: Mr. SlashN'Burn
I certainly didn’t mean to say that all White people in Tennessee are homos. I’m sure that there is equally as high of a population of homos in my own home state of Florida. Maybe somewhere in the 90 percentile range.
My statements were made out of my feelings of exasperation at the stupidity of my race and had nothing to do with what you’re trying to accomplish here. I’m sorry for clouding the issue of this most important activist thread.
You are to be highly commended for your efforts and I deeply appreciate what you’re trying to do. I would strongly urge any White Brothers and Sisters in the area to make a showing at this event. It takes so little effort to make a stand for what we believe. This is a worthy cause not only because it’s righteous, but also from a win-win propaganda standpoint. We have the opportunity for a public forum and we can attract the attention of others who will might be inclined to be open-minded to hearing our message. This is a great idea! Thanks again!
Street activism coupled with internet efforts is the way!
:cheers:
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Posted : 29/11/2006 4:32 pm
This policy of no rebel flags is just like those German laws against drawing a swastika, even for an anti-Nazi poster. It's because "They" fear the citizens might be thinking bad, unPC thoughts in the privacy of their own brains.
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Posted : 29/11/2006 4:53 pm
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