A Syrian soldier waits on the border, watching, waiting...

Scuze me if I just lean back in my Barcalounger and pop open a beer.

Nothing will happen in a night or even a month.

It never does.

The sky falls, but it fall s-l-o-w-l-y.

I agree. The rhetoric on this and another related thread is a bit too "Chicken Little." Rather similar to what you'd hear at a tent revival. I have been working all day and am not sure what all is happening, but those in power are not going to let everything go straight to hell. I think things will get much worse in the West for the little guys, but the power brokers world-wide have too much to lose by allowing economic and social chaos to break out. It has happened before, but I think the Big Boys will try to reign things in.

I've had my eye on a nice little Ruger Mini-14 and a Smith and Wesson .40 cal semi auto handgun. Guess I'll go put down my hard earned zog bucks first thing tomorrow. Heck, why not max out the credit card while I'm at it. Go all out. They raised my credit limit to almost 12 k. If the Apocalypse does come, somehow I don't think Bank of America is going to have any luck finding my ass out in the hills somewhere for their late payments.

And a good bug-out bag full of at least a months worth of essentials for outdoor survival.

It's gonna hurt us more than it hurts them. And they had to get it started in summer. Flaring tempers out there in the hot sun.

Already have the 12 guage loaded and ready for the law dogs in case they come snooping around looking for dissenters to fill their concentration camps.

I agree. The rhetoric on this and another related thread is a bit too "Chicken Little." Rather similar to what you'd hear at a tent revival. I have been working all day and am not sure what all is happening, but those in power are not going to let everything go straight to hell. I think things will get much worse in the West for the little guys, but the power brokers world-wide have too much to lose by allowing economic and social chaos to break out. It has happened before, but I think the Big Boys will try to reign things in.

I think John Flynn is a credible source.

Also, I think this

the power brokers world-wide have too much to lose by allowing economic and social chaos to break out.

is a naive statement.

The power brokers world wide do everything possible to sow chaos! Just look at Iraq. Depleted uranium munitions. The Baghdad library destroyed, equivalent to losing the library of Alexandria. The CIA flies "terror suspects" to Uzbekistan and tortures them by submerging their hand in boiling water, or "water boarding" (drowning and reviving them). Look at Hurricane Katrina and the Superdome. Look at 9-11! Sometimes I wonder if they aren't doing this out of boredom.

Look at the vicious waste of crude oil. Oil is extremely valuable stuff -- for things like pharmaceuticals and high technology. It's way too valuable to burn, but every useless office worker burns barrels of the stuff just to get to some pointless office job and back to the condo 5 times a week. The average speed nationwide of our cars is 5 mph -- we can walk that pace! Bicycles and mass transit would be much faster! I've lived in Russia and Ukraine, and their systems for transporting people are much more efficient and more pleasant. America is actually kind of backwards.

Just today I heard a report on NPR about a huge "dead zone" the size of New England in the Gulf of Mexico. No shrimp or fish live in this dead zone.

The dead zone exists because of run-off from Midwestern corn farms. Synthetic nitrogen runs off into the Mississippi and murders the eco-sphere of the Gulf of Mexico.

This is 100% preventable. And it doesn't make economic sense. Shrimp and fish are more valuable than corn -- even organically grown sweet corn like you buy from a farm stand.

But these Midwestern farms aren't growing organic sweet corn. They are growing surplus corn. NAFTA forces Mexico (the birthplace of corn) to buy this government subsidized, genetically engineered corn from us at less than the cost to produce the corn. That's a big reason for the spic invasion. Your taxpayer money subsidizes massive corn production, which drives mestizo corn farmers to bankruptcy, who then come to the USA and work under the table and collect US government benefits and breed 8 mestizos and rape some white teenage girls or get drunk and commit vehicular manslaughter and crowd our schools and demand political power, etc.

Try to look at ZOG as a whole for a moment. The racial lens is a good one, and it's an important one, but it doesn't tell the whole story.

ZOG is a plot against the White race; but it's so much more. They mean to destroy us, but look, they also mean to destroy the Gulf of Mexico; they also contaminated Iraq with depleted uranium; they also want to control all farmers world-wide with genetically modified plants and animals; they also want to grow the global population to 7 billion while using up all the oil (80 million barrels a day, or 3.2 billion gallons of crude, every day) that maintained those 7 billion people, and so the oil becomes depleted, scarce, and very expensive and leaves a world that can support maybe 1 billion, but groans under the weight of 7 billion hungry mouths.

But I'm Chicken Little. OK.

Kievsky,

You make some great statements, and provide true facts. The only thing that makes me say the sky isn't falling is the fact that the U.S. is basically the worlds consumers. For the world to keep moving the U.S. has to keep consuming. For the neo-cons to keep bathing in cash they have to make sure that money is changing hands, you destroy that and you destroy them.

I guess we'll see, but I just noticed that Israel is launching more attacks. Man I really hope this doesn't go to shit because I'm not prepared, I've got limited ammo and a short supply of non-perishables.......

Oil above $78 in morning Asian trading:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/business/4046066.html

It's gonna hurt us more than it hurts them. And they had to get it started in summer. Flaring tempers out there in the hot sun.

They'll shoot up the shithouse another month or so, max. Bushy needs an economic upswing for the elections and I expect we'll be hearing crateloads of boilerplate crap about the miraculous recovery. With these rosy facts in mind, Edna and Eddie MacKikely will vote Republican so things can get even more fabulously perfect.

This way the roof comes down in '07, as long predicted, because between the oil bourse, the growing strength of the Euro, the coming alliance against ZOG led by stalwarts such as Iran, Russia, China, the USA will be a footnote.

The economy can dive then, we'll have been used up, sucked dry. But they need to get the last drop out of the consumers in the Kwa, so count on some nimble peacemaking in the Mideast and some real bullshit from the Department of Labor for 8 or nine more months.

The economy can dive then, we'll have been used up, sucked dry. But they need to get the last drop out of the consumers in the Kwa, so count on some nimble peacemaking in the Mideast and some real bullshit from the Department of Labor for 8 or nine more months.

I hope to GOD you right brother, I'm planning on moving back to Croatia within the next 12 months. Los Angeles is getting more and more hostile to my bonde hair, blue eyed aryan ass...

I think John Flynn is a credible source.

I am not saying John (or his source) is not credible. There's always something brewing, and maybe something significant along the lines of what he's talking about will break. I am questioning the rush to judge this as something that will bring about an apocalypse.

Also, I think this is a naive statement.

The power brokers world wide do everything possible to sow chaos!...

OK, I should have been a bit more clear about the statement I made about power brokers and chaos. Sure, they foment and profit from chaos. What I was addressing was the hurried nature of what's being said here; the idea that the wheels are going to fly off within however many days or months. Mark made a good comment about the fact that if this country were to suddenly crash, the powers that be would be damaged along with the rest. I just don't think they want that.

What we need is a survival thread. How to store water, food and fuel.

I think John Flynn is a credible source.

I am not saying John (or his source) is not credible. There's always something brewing, and maybe something significant along the lines of what he's talking about will break. I am questioning the rush to predict an apocalypse. I see this all the time in various forms.

Also, I think this is a naive statement.

The power brokers world wide do everything possible to sow chaos!...

OK, I should have been a bit more clear about the statement I made regarding power brokers and chaos. Sure, they foment and profit from chaos. What I was addressing was the hurried and sweeping nature of what's being said here; the idea that the wheels are going to fly off within however many days or months. Mark made a good comment about the fact that if this country were to suddenly crash, the powers-that-be would be damaged along with the rest. I just don't think they want that.

Even if JAFs message is "alarmist", which I don't think it is, everyone should know how to survive if something does happen. Think Katrina.

Mark made a good comment about the fact that if this country were to suddenly crash, the powers-that-be would be damaged along with the rest. I just don't think they want that.

The powers that be can't control everything. It's a calculated risk, always.

Thanks for the heads up, John. It is good to be prepared for anything especially in these highly volatile times. The israelis and ZOG have gone totally insane and I wonder do they even have the faintest idea what they are doing anymore other than destroying the whole earth, making it unfit to live even for them.

What we need is a survival thread. How to store water, food and fuel.

This is a gun site for FN FAL owners, but this site has TONS of great information. Grant you I live in California, so I've got a neutered FAL to meet current the Peoples Republic of California's laws, but this is a great site. This is the link to their survival and prepardness forum, this should basically help anyone that's interested in being ready... Enjoy.....:cheers:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=131