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Alex Linder
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Teheran insists "Holocaust Conference" strictly unpolitical

dpa German Press Agency
Published: Sunday December 10, 2006

Teheran- Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman said on Sunday in Teheran that the country's controversial Holocaust conference was not politically motivated. "The participants in the conference will simply investigate this theme scientifically, and thereby positions for and against will be brought to the discussion," said Mohammad-Ali Hosseini at a press conference.

The spokesman added that in keeping with the West's vaunted tradition of freedom of opinion, the Holocaust should be open to question.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose government is sponsoring the conference to take place Monday and Tuesday, claims the Holocaust - in which six million European Jews were murdered by Nazi Germany - is a myth. He has also called for the destruction of Israel.

The Tehran conference, due to be attended by researchers from about 30 countries, claims it wants to assess the magnitude of the Holocaust and whether the Nazis really used gas chambers to kill Jews.

The German government has raised concerns about the conference and on Friday summoned the Iranian charge d'affaires in Berlin to raise its objections.

"The German government condemns as unacceptable all comments which put Israel's right to exist into question or raise doubts about the Holocaust," Jens Ploetner, a spokesman at the German Foreign Ministry, said.

The United States has also objected to Iran's planned conference, calling it "disgraceful."

"This meeting is really focused on highlighting those people who deny that there was, in fact, a Holocaust," US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Friday.

"So in that regard, it's just yet another disgraceful act on this particular subject by the regime in Tehran."

http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Teheran_insists_Holocaust_Conferenc_12102006.html


 
Posted : 10/12/2006 6:57 am
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KIKES ATTACK TOEBEN

Jewish leaders condemn meeting

By Pia Akerman

December 11, 2006 01:00am
Article from: The Australian

AUSTRALIA'S Jewish leadership has condemned as grotesque a meeting this week of more than 60 revisionist "historians" - including Australian Frederick Toben - at an Iranian conference questioning the Holocaust.

Dr Toben, who likes to argue that Auschwitz had no gas chambers, has brought his own model of the death camp to the conference, which he seems to think proves there would have been no room for the Jews - at least 1.1 million - whose deaths were documented in painful detail in Nazi records.

The two-day conference opening tonight in Tehran has drawn anger in Britain and the US. Asked why the West was so outraged, Dr Toben replied: "The Holocaust equals a lie. Therefore Israel is built on a lie."

The chief executive officer of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, Vic Alhadeff, called the conference a "farcical" attempt to undermine Israel, motivated by race hate of the Jewish people.

"The motive of any Holocaust denier is anti-Semitism pure and simple," said Mr Alhadeff, whose grandparents were killed at Auschwitz.

"The mountain of evidence is overwhelming and has been tested in courts around the world over and over, and by no lesser country than Germany itself, which was the architect of the Holocaust. It's simply grotesque when this conference denies the greatest disaster ever to have befallen the Jewish people."

The Iranian foreign ministry claims delegates from 30 countries would attend the conference, initiated by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and titled "Studying the Holocaust: An International View".

Mr Ahmadinejad claims the Holocaust is a myth used to justify the occupation of Palestine, calls for Israel to be wiped out and suggests its citizens could be resettled in Alaska.

The seminars could have been designed to cause maximum pain to Holocaust survivors and their descendants.

"Gas Chambers: Denial or Confirmation", is the title of one. Others are headed "Freedom of Speech and the Stance of Holocaust Deniers in the West", and "The Current Laws Against Holocaust Deniers".

With no trace of irony, Iranian officials said the conference - sponsored by the Institute for Political and International Studies, a foreign ministry think tank - would include archives, photographs and demographic evidence to establish whether the number of Nazi victims was exaggerated.

In 2002, a Federal Court ruling ordered Dr Toben to remove anti-Jewish material from his website.

The Executive Council of Australian Jewry announced last week it was launching legal action against Dr Toben for his failure to obey the court order.

Additional reporting: The Sunday Times, London

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20904930-2,00.html

Dr Fredrick Töben's disclaimer

"I am operating under a Federal Court of Australia Gag Order that prohibits me from questioning/denying the three pillars on which the 'Holocaust' story/legend/myth rests: 1. During World War II , Germany had an extermination policy against European Jewry; 2. of which they killed six million; 3. using as a murder weapon homicidal gas chambers. It is almost impossible to discuss the 'Holocaust' with such an imposed constraint. I therefore am merely reporting on matters that I am not permitted to state. For example, if I state the 'Holocaust' is 1. a lie; 2. six million Jews never died, or 3. the gas chambers did not exist, then I would claim that I am merely reporting on what Professors Butz/Faurisson, et al, are stating in public.

Also, by definition, an Antisemite is someone who condemns Jews because they are Jews, something I reject in my maxim: "Don't blame the Jews, blame those that bend to their pressure", as illiustrated here.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/


 
Posted : 10/12/2006 7:09 am
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Persons against this conference are more frightened by being embarrassed of being taken when its exposed or faulted. This, rather than the actual act of questioning.

Kinda like when you're a young kid and you discover there is no Santa Claus. You were moved and inspired by his represetation of all that is good and warming, then it all comes to an end through a lie. And don't we really all hate being lied to?


"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him...." ------ John 8:44

 
Posted : 10/12/2006 7:09 am
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As Toeben says, this evil New World Order they're trying to build is built on this Monster Truck Lie called 'Holocaust.'


 
Posted : 10/12/2006 7:10 am
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Did ya catch Ahmadinejad's recommendation for a new homeland for the kikes ??? Alaska.

See what a thoughtful planner Ahmadinejad is?? Gas chambers won't even be needed there. Open air freezers will do just fine. Just think of the savings in costs to taxpayers.

he he


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Posted : 10/12/2006 8:06 am
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Persons against this conference are more frightened by being embarrassed of being taken when its exposed or faulted. This, rather than the actual act of questioning.

Kinda like when you're a young kid and you discover there is no Santa Claus. You were moved and inspired by his represetation of all that is good and warming, then it all comes to an end through a lie. And don't we really all hate being lied to?

Soccermoms and girli-men love being lied to Wodjanoj. It's stressful truths they hate, not cover-up lies designed to give them a feel-good, false sense of security.

The jewsmedia cover-ups of black-on-white violence is only one example.

Your point about the Santa Claus lie is excellent, though.


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Posted : 10/12/2006 8:17 am
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Hey Alskian Activist meet your new neighbors same As the old ones.

Those wedgies the Kikes have seem too be making there voices shreal even higher.

Hey everyone what is that coming? Itz


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Posted : 10/12/2006 8:40 am
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Any news on whether Mr.Duke will be attending the conference? Seriously, this almost makes we want to move to Iran. Can anyone imagine them holding such an international gathering over here?


 
Posted : 10/12/2006 9:40 am
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[color="Blue"](Not in this exchange, at least. For those that missed it last May, here is part of
Ahmadinejad's interview with Der Spiegel. I just like this guy more and more every
day. Hey Alex, are you sure you don't have any long-lost cousins in Persia? ;) )

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,418660,00.html

SPIEGEL: There was great indignation in Germany when it became known that you might be coming to
the soccer world championship. Did that surprise you?

Ahmadinejad: No, that's not important. I didn't even understand how that came about. It also had
no meaning for me. I don't know what all the excitement is about.

SPIEGEL: It concerned your remarks about the Holocaust. It was inevitable that the Iranian
president's denial of the systematic murder of the Jews by the Germans would trigger outrage.

Ahmadinejad: I don't exactly understand the connection.

SPIEGEL: First you make your remarks about the Holocaust. Then comes the news that you may
travel to Germany -- this causes an uproar. So you were surprised after all?

Ahmadinejad: No, not at all, because the network of Zionism is very active around the world,
in Europe too. So I wasn't surprised. We were addressing the German people. We have nothing
to do with Zionists.

SPIEGEL: Denying the Holocaust is punishable in Germany. Are you indifferent when confronted
with so much outrage?

Ahmadinejad: I know that DER SPIEGEL is a respected magazine. But I don't know whether it is
possible for you to publish the truth about the Holocaust. Are you permitted to write everything
about it?

SPIEGEL: Of course we are entitled to write about the findings of the past 60 years' historical
research. In our view there is no doubt that the Germans -- unfortunately -- bear the guilt for
the murder of 6 million Jews.

Ahmadinejad: Well, then we have stirred up a very concrete discussion. We are posing two very
clear questions. The first is: Did the Holocaust actually take place? You answer this question
in the affirmative. So, the second question is: Whose fault was it? The answer to that has
to be found in Europe and not in Palestine. It is perfectly clear: If the Holocaust took place
in Europe, one also has to find the answer to it in Europe.

On the other hand, if the Holocaust didn't take place, why then did this regime of occupation ...

SPIEGEL: ... You mean the state of Israel...

Ahmadinejad: ... come about? Why do the European countries commit themselves to defending
this regime? Permit me to make one more point. We are of the opinion that, if an historical
occurrence conforms to the truth, this truth will be revealed all the more clearly if there is
more research into it and more discussion about it.

SPIEGEL: That has long since happened in Germany.

Ahmadinejad: We don't want to confirm or deny the Holocaust. We oppose every type of crime
against any people. But we want to know whether this crime actually took place or not. If it did,
then those who bear the responsibility for it have to be punished, and not the Palestinians. Why
isn't research into a deed that occurred 60 years ago permitted? After all, other historical
occurrences, some of which lie several thousand years in the past, are open to research, and
even the governments support this.

SPIEGEL: Mr. President, with all due respect, the Holocaust occurred, there were concentration
camps, there are dossiers on the extermination of the Jews, there has been a great deal of research,
and there is neither the slightest doubt about the Holocaust nor about the fact - we greatly
regret this - that the Germans are responsible for it. If we may now add one remark: the fate
of the Palestinians is an entirely different issue, and this brings us into the present.

Ahmadinejad: No, no, the roots of the Palestinian conflict must be sought in history. The Holocaust
and Palestine are directly connected with one another. And if the Holocaust actually occurred,
then you should permit impartial groups from the whole world to research this. Why do you
restrict the research to a certain group? Of course, I don't mean you, but rather the European
governments.

SPIEGEL: Are you still saying that the Holocaust is just "a myth?"

Ahmadinejad: I will only accept something as truth if I am actually convinced of it.

SPIEGEL: Even though no Western scholars harbor any doubt about the Holocaust?

Ahmadinejad: [highlight]But there are two opinions on this in Europe. One group of scholars or persons,
most of them politically motivated, say the Holocaust occurred. Then there is the group of scholars
who represent the opposite position and have therefore been imprisoned for the most part. Hence,
an impartial group has to come together to investigate and to render an opinion on this very
important subject, because the clarification of this issue will contribute to the solution of global
problems. Under the pretext of the Holocaust, a very strong polarization has taken place in the
world and fronts have been formed. It would therefore be very good if an international and
impartial group looked into the matter in order to clarify it once and for all. Normally, governments
promote and support the work of researchers on historical events and do not put them in prison.[/highlight]

SPIEGEL: Who is that supposed to be? Which researchers do you mean?

Ahmadinejad: You would know this better than I; you have the list. There are people from England,
from Germany, France and from Australia.

SPIEGEL: You presumably mean, for example, the Englishman David Irving, the German-Canadian
Ernst Zündel, who is on trial in Mannheim, and the Frenchman Georges Theil, all of whom deny the
Holocaust.

Ahmadinejad: The mere fact that my comments have caused such strong protests, although I'm
not a European, and also the fact that I have been compared with certain persons in German
history indicates how charged with conflict the atmosphere for research is in your country. Here
in Iran you needn't worry.

SPIEGEL: Well, we are conducting this historical debate with you for a very timely purpose.
Are you questioning Israel's right to exist?

Ahmadinejad: [highlight]Look here, my views are quite clear. We are saying that if the Holocaust occurred,
then Europe must draw the consequences and that it is not Palestine that should pay the price
for it. If it did not occur, then the Jews have to go back to where they came from. I believe that
the German people today are also prisoners of the Holocaust. Sixty million people died in the
Second World War. World War II was a gigantic crime. We condemn it all. We are against bloodshed,
regardless of whether a crime was committed against a Muslim or against a Christian or a Jew.
But the question is: Why among these 60 million victims are only the Jews the center of attention?[/highlight]

SPIEGEL: That's just not the case. All peoples mourn the victims claimed by the Second World War,
Germans and Russians and Poles and others as well. Yet, we as Germans cannot absolve ourselves
of a special guilt, namely for the systematic murder of the Jews. But perhaps we should now move on
to the next subject.

[highlight]Ahmadinejad: No, I have a question for you. What kind of a role did today's youth play in World War II?

SPIEGEL: None.

Ahmadinejad: Why should they have feelings of guilt toward Zionists? Why should the costs of
the Zionists be paid out of their pockets? If people committed crimes in the past, then they would
have to have been tried 60 years ago. End of story! Why must the German people be humiliated
today because a group of people committed crimes in the name of the Germans during the course
of history?[/highlight]

SPIEGEL: The German people today can't do anything about it. But there is a sort of collective
shame for those deeds done in the German name by our fathers or grandfathers.

Ahmadinejad: How can a person who wasn't even alive at the time be held legally responsible?

SPIEGEL: Not legally but morally.

Ahmadinejad: Why is such a burden heaped on the German people? The German people of today
bear no guilt. Why are the German people not permitted the right to defend themselves? Why
are the crimes of one group emphasized so greatly, instead of highlighting the great German cultural
heritage? Why should the Germans not have the right to express their opinion freely?

SPIEGEL: Mr. President, we are well aware that German history is not made up of only the 12 years
of the Third Reich. Nevertheless, we have to accept that horrible crimes have been committed in
the German name. We also own up to this, and it is a great achievement of the Germans in post-war
history that they have grappled critically with their past.

Ahmadinejad: Are you also prepared to tell that to the German people?

SPIEGEL: Oh yes, we do that.

Ahmadinejad: Then would you also permit an impartial group to ask the German people whether
it shares your opinion? No people accepts its own humiliation.

SPIEGEL: All questions are allowed in our country. But of course there are right-wing radicals in
Germany who are not only anti-Semitic, but xenophobic as well, and we do indeed consider them
a threat.

Ahmadinejad: Let me ask you one thing: How much longer can this go on? How much longer do
you think the German people have to accept being taken hostage by the Zionists? When will
that end - in 20, 50, 1,000 years?

SPIEGEL: We can only speak for ourselves. DER SPIEGEL is nobody's hostage; SPIEGEL does not
deal only with Germany's past and the Germans' crimes. We're not Israel's uncritical ally in the
Palestian conflict. But we want to make one thing very clear: We are critical, we are independent,
but we won't simply stand by without protest when the existential right of the state of Israel,
where many Holocaust survivors live, is being questioned.

Ahmadinejad: Precisely that is our point. Why should you feel obliged to the Zionists? If there
really had been a Holocaust, Israel ought to be located in Europe, not in Palestine.

SPIEGEL: Do you want to resettle a whole people 60 years after the end of the war?

Ahmadinejad: Five million Palestinians have not had a home for 60 years. It is amazing really:
You have been paying reparations for the Holocaust for 60 years and will have to keep paying
up for another 100 years. Why then is the fate of the Palestinians no issue here?

SPIEGEL: The Europeans support the Palestinians in many ways. After all, we also have an historic
responsibility to help bring peace to this region finally. But don't you share that responsibility?

Ahmadinejad: Yes, but aggression, occupation and a repetition of the Holocaust won't bring
peace. What we want is a sustainable peace. This means that we have to tackle the root of the
problem. I am pleased to note that you are honest people and admit that you are obliged to support
the Zionists.

SPIEGEL: That's not what we said, Mr. President.

Ahmadinejad: You said Israelis.

SPIEGEL: Mr. President, we're talking about the Holocaust because we want to talk about the
possible nuclear armament of Iran -- which is why the West sees you as a threat.

Ahmadinejad: Some groups in the West enjoy calling things or people a threat. Of course
you're free to make your own judgment.


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"A careful study of anti-semitism prejudice and accusations might be of great value to many jews,
who do not adequately realize the irritations they inflict."
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Posted : 10/12/2006 10:36 am
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[Some Jewish spinmeister wrote:]
The mountain of evidence is overwhelming and has been tested in courts around the world over and over, and by no lesser country than Germany itself, which was the architect of the Holocaust.

:mad: Test it in a labratory and with forensic equipment.

On the positive note I would love to get grant ]us holocaust museum[/url] and have the Iranians show their exhibit there. :)


The Words of the Prophet Linder
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Posted : 10/12/2006 10:56 am
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Any news on whether Mr.Duke will be attending the conference?

He's in Tehran. :cheers:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=346703

Dec. 10, 2006
....
The Holocaust Conference in Iran is truly about respect for intellectual freedom.

Iran has organized the first international conference dedicated to freedom of speech and inquiry
on this important historical matter that has so many ramifications on the Mideast and many
other present political realities.

I am here in Tehran as speaker in this conference because I am dedicated to freedom of speech,
conscience, and thought.

--Dr. David Duke
Former member of the House of Representatives
State of Louisiana, United States of America


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"A careful study of anti-semitism prejudice and accusations might be of great value to many jews,
who do not adequately realize the irritations they inflict."
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Posted : 10/12/2006 11:04 am
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WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?

By Dr. E. R. Fields

The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the world's sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews actual took place.

NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON'T ADD UP

The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people? With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4 million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish holocaust "survivors" had applied for reparations money. The Red Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note that in the Jews real "bible", The Talmud, it is claimed that 800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet there is no historical evidence supporting this claim. The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews having been put to death "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz." Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated these figures which today are accepted as "gospel truth". It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure 20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an "extermination camp".

HIMMLER-"REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS"

Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that "The death rate in the concentration camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source, Reitlinger's book, "The Final Solution.") The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever, emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production. Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler's order on Jan 20, 1943, "Every means will be used to lower the death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.) On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting in the "shockingly high mortality figures." (Source: Nuremberg Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to 2.8% in June 1943. The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in 1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen and shot. Does this sound like a policy of "extermination?" With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the "Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War Criminals". It was after this meeting that the announcement was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.

THE PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING

In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace. Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center states in the paper, "Books and Bookmen", April 1975, page 5, "No gassing took place in any camp on German soil." The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross, English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or believe in rumors of gassings.

This brings up the following questions. 1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims. 2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000 MASS GASSINGS! 3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also died from typhus. 4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers. the response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them." (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946.)

FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS

Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to 1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such "confessions" are about as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of 1936. The communists wrote the "Confession' and Hoess signed it. Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he died in his cell. Hoess statement read, "half an hour after having released the gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines. They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and smoking." Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no gassing? Zyclon-B is not "ventable". The manufacturers state Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the workers ran into the gas chamber "eating and smoking" - without gas masks - only minutes after the gassing - IF THIS OCCURRED ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!

GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE

The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, "The Capture and Trial of Adolph Eichmann" pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and "became immediately gaseous." The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: "We know of no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become instantly gaseous upon exposure to air."

CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER

Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), "We knew when the people were dead because their screaming stopped." If anyone were actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas which carry typhus.

THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS

At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT'S ALL! In these three camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation ovens were very small with only 18' doors and a time period of from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever stored at the camps for cremations. A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of William L. Shirer's book, "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich." It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions of people were gassed and then burned in this company's ovens. In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition: "The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass burning." WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION??? On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people - this would leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of ashes. It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber could be found. The official answer was that it was "taken to another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!"

WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST

Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40 books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal, 1967. "It has been demonstrated that there had been no systematic extermination in those camps." Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: "I was at Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there." Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962. "The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie - the most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time." Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. "The holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose principal beneficiary is the state of Israel."

WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN

Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a holocaust which never occurred? Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, "Not until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti- Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists." S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, "The holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who will cowtow to the Jews." Zionist spokesmen often boast of: "The shattering effect of the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling of collective indebtedness to the Jews." Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is condemned as being "anti-Semitic" and "insensitive" to holocaust victims. The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come. That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation laws.

A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING

The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for 38 years. When they don't use the holocaust the money collection sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.

HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION

Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of Zionist political goals.

WHAT ABOUT REAL HOLOCAUSTS?

Why doesn't the press, TV and film industry give massive media attention to real victims to proven holocausts of Gentiles in recent history.

THE SOVIET-BOLSHEVIK HOLOCAUST OF CHRISTIANS:

RUSSIAN KULAK FARMERS (1928-1930) 15 million exterminated. UKRANIAN FARMERS (1930-1933) 7 Million exterminated. RUSSIAN POLITICAL PRISONERS (1919-1949) 12 million exterminated. Total peoples murdered by Lenin and Stalin. 34 million. CAMBODIAN extermination 1975 2.5 million. ARMENIAN extermination by the Turks, 1915, 1.5 million.


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He's in Tehran. :cheers:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=346703

I'm delighted to learn Duke is in Tehran, and that he'll be a speaker at the conference. That obviously means he was invited (or at least approved) by the Iranian government.

I'll mail another $25.00 donation to Duke headquarters in tomorrow's mail, and I urger other VNN'ers to send donation, as well. David puts his life on the line every day PUBLICLY for our race, and has for over 30 years. He more than deserves our financial support:

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Posted : 10/12/2006 1:24 pm
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Iran Hosts Controversial International Holocaust Debate

December 10, 2006 2:00 p.m. EST

Ryan R. Jones - All Headline News Middle East Correspondent

Jerusalem, Israel (AHN) - Iran on Monday will open an international conference to examine the veracity of the Nazi Holocaust against the Jews, which Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has labeled a "myth."

"For 60 years talking about the Holocaust was a crime in the West but now there is a serious debate about the Holocaust in the media and also in political and popular meetings," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying on Iranian state-run TV on Saturday.

The Iranian leader insists that the mass slaughter of six million Jews by Germany's Nazi regime is nothing more than a story contrived by Jews and Western governments to justify the establishment of the State of Israel.

He said many Western politicians are now open to the idea that the "original foundation of the Zionist regime was a mistake."

Sixty-seven researchers from 30 countries have been invited to participate in the Holocaust conference.

Among the topics on the agenda is whether or not the Nazis really used gas chambers to more efficiently kill large numbers of Jews, as documented [sic] by Holocaust museums in Berlin, Jerusalem and Washington D.C.

As expected, news of the conference has elicited harsh condemnation from Europe and the U.S.

German Foreign Ministry spokesman Jens Ploetner told the AP that "the German government finds all statements that question the right of Israel to exist or the Holocaust shocking and unacceptable."

U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack described the Iranian event as "disgraceful," adding that it is "flabbergasting" that "the leadership of the regime continues to deny that six million plus people were killed in the Holocaust."

Karen Pollock, chief executive of the British Holocaust Educational Trust, called the conference "ridiculous."

"Denial of the Holocaust is a virulent form of anti-Semitism. It is not only deeply offensive to Holocaust survivors but to any right-minded human being," wrote Pollock in a statement carried by Reuters.


 
Posted : 10/12/2006 6:29 pm
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Israel the Unperfumable

Survey: Israel worst brand name in the world

As if Israel's position in the world in not bad
enough, a new survey published in the US Wednesday
says that Israel is suffering from the worst public
image among all countries of the world.

The study, called the National Brands Index, conducted
by government advisor Simon Anholt and powered by
global market intelligence solutions provider GMI
(Global Market Insite, Inc.), shows that Israel is at
the bottom of the list by a considerable margin in the
public's perception of its image.

The Index surveyed 25,903 online consumers across 35
countries about their perceptions of those countries
across six areas of national competence: Investment
and Immigration, Exports, Culture and Heritage,
People, Governance and Tourism. The NBI is the first
analytical ranking of the world's nation brands.

"Israel's brand is by a considerable margin the most
negative we have ever measured in the NBI, and comes
at the bottom of the ranking on almost every
question," states report author Simon Anholt.

Anholt believes that the politics of a nation can
affect every single aspect of a person's perception
about a country. In the light of the recent
announcement that the Israeli Foreign Ministry has
taken upon itself to re-brand Israel, Anholt comments
that to succeed in permanently changing the country's
image, the country has to be prepared to change its
behavior. He reiterates his strong belief that a
reputation cannot be constructed: it has to be earned.

"If Israel's intention is to promote itself as a
desirable place to live and invest in, the challenge
appears to be a steep one," Anholt concluded.

The survey also indicated that Israel came last in
each area by a long margin, including the fact that of
the 36 countries ranked, there is nowhere that
respondents would like to visit less than Israel.
Worse yet, the survey indicates that Israel's people
were also voted the most unwelcoming in the world.

And there was one more unpleasant surprise: Whoever
thought that the United States is Israel's best friend
and Israel is loved in the US, the index indicated
that Americans ranked Israel just slightly above China
in terms of its conduct in the areas of international
peace and security.

The 35 countries polled for the study were: Argentina,
Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, China, Czech
Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, France, Germany,
Hungary, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Japan,
Malaysia, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway,
Poland, Portugal, Russia, Singapore, South Africa,
South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, UK,
and the USA.

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=10395

"The Holocaust is merely the latest means by which Israel contrives to support itself on the backs of the nations"


 
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