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Immigration and crime are the two bells the FN hits the hardest so I don't think a FN government wouldn't be 'good for arabs' - in France - so this jewrnalist shouldn't be believed until what he predicts really happens. Le Pen was against the two Iraq wars and he said he preferred Saddam to the Saudis so you won't find many jews who like him.

The FN is an old-style nationalist party, anti-EU, pro-traditions, pro-farmers, pro-small villages and that sort of thing. They want to downsize the government and scraps tons of laws and they are of course protectionists. They're for the death penalty I think and they want tougher sentences for criminals. They want to change the laws so that not everyone who is born in France receive the nationality and they want to remove a lot of north-africans from France either by deporting them or by paying them to move out. Their immigration policy is of 'zero-immigration'. Officially the FN is non-racist, there's a few arabs and nigs in the party, but on their website there are often news about whites being attacked and murdered by muds and they talk about the anti-white racism of the 'north africans'. So if you're a WN in France the Front National is the best thing you've got even though its leader is a bit of a buffoon and a jet-setter.

The FN was pro-serb at a time when all the french media were bashing serbs and calling for NATO to bomb more. Le Pen once met Saddam and his wife was running a charity fund to help iraqi children.

Le Pen has been sued many times and fined for hundreds of thousands of $$ over his "offensive" speeches. The list is too long to be posted here. He once said the gas chambers were a detail of history, that immigrants living in France want to rule the country and oppress the natives, that the nazi occupation of France wasn't that bad (he was a resistance fighter or so he says), that his party was going to do to France what Jesus did in the temple, that the races weren't equal in some abilities.

His first wife called him a raving antisemite:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEED91131F931A25757C0A96E948260

In an interview with the French edition of Rolling Stone that will be published Wednesday, Pierrette Le Pen says that her former husband is a raving anti-Semite who fondly refers to Hitler as Uncle Dolfie.

Mrs. Le Pen is quoted as paraphrasing her husband as saying routinely: ''That one's a Jew. The Jews are invading France. They're taking over all everywhere. You can't open a door without hearing a Jew talking. You can't turn on television without seeing a Jew.''

In the 1970s he was fined for publishing an album of Third Reich songs. Can't find much details about this one.

The FN's #2, Bruno Gollnisch (ironically married to a japanese woman - David Duke didn't tell you that), is being sued because he said historians should be free to debate the holocaust and the european parliament refused to give him immunity so he could go to jail or be fined a lot of $$.

One FN guy was fined something like 10,000 $ because he called immigrants invaders.

Le Pen and his daughter are often invited to participate in debates on TV but there's no FN-friendly major newspapers.

here's Jean-Marie with niggers in former french colony New-Caledonia

here with Saddam

Reagan

a side note:
I don't think it was reported in the media outside France but the total numbers of torched cars in 05 - the whole year - was 45,000. Which would be about perhaps the equivalent of 250,000 cars in America. Nobody is being told how bad the criminality of the muds is in France. And what's worse is that it's illegal for any government agency to classify anyone by race so any racial statistics related to crime or anything else can only be an estimate based on the names of the individuals involved, which means anyone who wants to know say the proportion of arabs involved in rapes has to go through each case manually and look at the names and guess the race. It's insane

another note:
Nicolas Sarkozy, the half-jew who wants to be president, once said in an interview that stopping immigration was wrong because societies and civilizations have a greater risk of disappearing by inbreeding than by mixing with others.


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Posted : 22/02/2006 8:43 pm
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In comparison to our jewish problem, everything else is distraction. And Muslim bashing helps no one but the jews.

Once international jewry is neutralized by mass exposure, the ZOGs will have been defeated, and we can then begin direct negotiations with non-White peoples for the adoption of policies that will greatly enhance our chances for racial survival and for the instauration of White people.


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Posted : 23/02/2006 6:43 am
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In comparison to our jewish problem, everything else is distraction. And Muslim bashing helps no one but the jews.

I agree, we as WN need to agree that race and religion is irrelevant at this time and stop the jewish powers while we still can.

I believe that they are in those and other European White Nations.

So you view muslims as the enemy only if they are living in a white country?

The jews want WNs to believe that Muslims are not a problem in Europe and that they are outside of Europe.

No the jews want us to see the muslim population inside our countries as a problem so the pressure can be taken of the jews and put on something that else, why do you think they ran the cartoons of the profit?

We WNs need to pull the wool off of our eyes and see the present situation as it really is. Before it is too late.

That the jews are the only problem and we should not waste our time on anything else.


 
Posted : 23/02/2006 7:27 am
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story said:

“We have nothing against Islam as a religion,” the National Front Federation of the Var county, in Southern France, stated earlier this month.
Political analysts wonder how far the experiment can go. The real issue, many analysts say, is a schism within the French far right on who is the chief enemy.
The National Front has always been a coalition of two very distinct political families: Neofascists, like Mr. Le Pen himself, and traditional, Christian right-wingers.
Neofascists think Jews and Americans are the chief enemy, rather than Arabs and Muslims. In a way, they even tend to celebrate Arabs and Muslims as fellow fascists. As for Christian right-wingers, they see Arabs and Muslims as the chief enemy.
For years, Mr. Le Pen has been pretending he is a Christian right-winger rather than a Neofascist and that resistance to Muslim immigration is his major concern. Now he has emerged on the side of the Neofascist branch

Ha, I'll bet that's got the Jews piddling their panties. Le Pen is in a better position to stop the immigration invasion to France and that would probably have to include some kind of "deal" with foreign Arab nations especially if it included REPATRIATION. Jews and lying cheating White communists are the biggest impediments to getting that done not "Muslims."


 
Posted : 23/02/2006 8:50 am
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I am very frustrated over my failure to make my argument clear so I will try again to state it as succinctly as possible.

Before I start let me say unambiguously that I do not hate Muslims nor do I approve of the irrational Muslim banishing that we are currently seeing.

I will limit my analysis to the situation in Europe. I also recognize the fact, as some have pointed out, that some Muslims are white. These are mostly Bosnians, Albanians/Kosovars (80% Muslim who wield virtually all of the power) and Chechnyans (and some small neighboring countries). They are on the periphery of Europe, marginalized and few in number compared to the bulk of the Muslims in Europe who are non-white.

So: 1) The jews are engaged in a massive campaign of deception with regard to both the Muslim Problem and the impending "Clash of Civilizations" war.

2) One step in this campaign has been to provoke the Muslims to violence with the cartoons and the new Abu Ghraib photos.

3) As the jews hoped, this has led to two responses by white Europeans:
First, anti-Muslim sentiment, bashing and hatred among non-White Nationalist whites. The purpose of this is to gain support for their "Clash of Civilizations" war.
Second,for White Nationalists to conclude that since the jews seem to want us to be anti-Muslim we ought to do the contrary and either be pro-Muslim or at least ignore the Muslim Problem as a jew created diversion of our attention away from the jews.

4) The effect of this has been to split white Europeans (and Americans) into two camps: non-WNs, anti-Muslim and, WNs, let us say, non-anti-Muslim.

5) The jewish media has framed the debate in very simplistic terms designed to serve their ends: a) For non-WNs, there is a Muslim Problem in Europe and therefore you must support us in our "Clash of Civilizations" war. b) For WNs, there is no Muslim Problem or it can be ignored as a diversion from the bigger problem which is the jews.

6) The jews WANT WNs to believe that there is no Muslim Problem or to ignore it knowing full well that we do not have time to expose the jewish control of the governments of the White Nations before they launch their "Clash of Civilizations" war.

7) Once the "Clash of Civilizations" war against the Muslim Nations is underway, white Europeans (and most likely Americans too) will find themselves confronted at home with a large, violent, enraged Muslim population. They will serve as a fifth column unloyal to their nations of residence and well known to all as willing to sacrifice themselves in defense of Islam and their "home" nations in Dar al-Islam...the Muslim nations.

8) The jews seem set to get what they want: chaos within the White Nations and the demise of Western Civilization, complete military defeat and ruin of the Muslim nations, the expansion of Eretz Israel to what they believe to be its full extent and the "final solution" of their ages-old, group evolutionary agenda...total control by the scattered elements of the jewish diaspora within every nation in the world and the existence of Israel as its nerve center.

9) The hypothetical offer that I have previously suggested that we make, namely that we leave the Muslim nations and they leave ours, was made primarily as a tactical maneuver. To present this offer and have it resisted fiercely by the jews would expose the scam that they are pulling.

They do not want the White Nations to be rid of the Muslims. They created the political and intellectual climate that brought this problem upon us. They do not want the White Nations to withdraw from the Muslim nations, in fact they want them to be the military force which invades the Muslim nations. An invasion that serves only the interests of the jews.

What I have been proposing is that we, the WNs, make the contradictions in the jewish presentation of the situation clear to all white people everywhere...within the White Nations the Muslim Problem is a serious threat to our survival; globally the Muslim nations are not our enemies...there is no inevitable "Clash of Civilizations".

We must expose this jewish deception to public view. Such exposure could be the catalyst that awakens many whites to the jewish threat.

If I have not made myself clear yet, I don't know what more I can say. Yes, I know that the jews are the major problem but this cannot lead us to believe that the Muslim Problem can be ignored.


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Posted : 23/02/2006 1:57 pm
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The Jews aren't that smart, in fact they are still as stupid and primitive as they always were. The fact that they attained so much influence in our society is due to our own flaws- which we can control. There really IS no Muslim problem. How are Muslim non-whites any worse than other masses of non-whites, to the extent that we need to single out "Islam" thus alienating several million whites in the process. Why say anything other than non-Aryan?


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Posted : 23/02/2006 2:00 pm
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The Jews aren't that smart, in fact they are still as stupid and primitive as they always were. The fact that they attained so much influence in our society is due to our own flaws- which we can control. There really IS no Muslim problem. How are Muslim non-whites any worse than other masses of non-whites, to the extent that we need to single out "Islam" thus alienating several million whites in the process. Why say anything other than non-Aryan?

Wow! Three whole minutes spent reading what I spent hours writing and then thinking about what I said and then thinking about what you would say and then typing what you had to say.

I'm impressed, JP, really I am. Impressed with what, I won't say lest I start a flame war.


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Posted : 23/02/2006 2:09 pm
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Wow! Three whole minutes spent reading what I spent hours writing and then thinking about what I said and then thinking about what you would say and then typing what you had to say.

I'm impressed, JP, really I am. Impressed with what, I won't say lest I start a flame war.

I did read what you wrote, and though I agree with the tactical recommendations I don't believe that the Jews have everything so wrapped up in their grasp. What is happening now in Europe is the inevitably result of their idiotic ideas, and they are getting desperate to correct this. I don't believe the Jews(a lot of Western European nations have far more miniscule Jewish communties) are really overly concerned with what we believe because they don't see us as a legitimate and significant political force.

I am just saying that there is no reason for us to give any creedence to a "Muslim" problem on the grounds that we are racialist. I've been banned from Stormfront twice for pointing that out.


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Posted : 23/02/2006 2:15 pm
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I did read what you wrote, and though I agree with the tactical recommendations I don't believe that the Jews have everything so wrapped up in their grasp. What is happening now in Europe is the inevitably result of their idiotic ideas, and they are getting desperate to correct this. I don't believe the Jews(a lot of Western European nations have far more miniscule Jewish communties) are really overly concerned with what we believe because they don't see us as a legitimate and significant political force.

It only takes a few virus particles invading an organism to destroy it.

Consider this: The last chairman of the Federal Reserve was Alan Greenspan, the current one is Benjamin Bernanke...both jews.

The last president of the World Bank was James Wolfensohn, the current president is Paul Wolfowitz (yes, that Wolfowitz)...both jews. And Wolf-s?

In my lifetime Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright have served (just WHO did they serve?) as Secretary of State...both jews.

I could go on but need I?

I am just saying that there is no reason for us to give any creedence to a "Muslim" problem on the grounds that we are racialist. I've been banned from Stormfront twice for pointing that out.

Which supports my argument. Stormfront has been somewhat...what's a kind word for it...befuddled by the jews. They seem to be lacking a bit in WN fervor. They may have become part of what I described as the non-WN white people who have been duped into bashing and hating Muslims in response to jewish deception.

I can't say that with certainty since I only know about their position by reflection here on VNNF. I don't go there often. Can you refer me to the thread on SF where they are discussing the existence or non-existence of a Muslim Problem?


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[color="Red"]The jews are a problem--not our ONLY or SOLE problem, not responsible for EVERY problem faced by gentiles, not some ALL-POWERFUL race that we shouldn't bother trying to resist, not an EXCUSE for avoiding responsibilty for problems of our own making --but nonetheless, A REAL, SERIOUS PROBLEM.--Burrhus

 
Posted : 23/02/2006 3:02 pm
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This ain't your granddaddy's France, and Le Pen realizes that. He can't afford to alienate such a large section of possible voters and expect to gain power. I wont fool myself into thinking any political leader will get these niggers and muds to pack up and go back to their places of origin. If he can do this, the man is a savior.


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Posted : 23/02/2006 3:06 pm
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It only takes a few virus particles invading an organism to destroy it.

Consider this: The last chairman of the Federal Reserve was Alan Greenspan, the current one is Benjamin Bernanke...both jews.

The last president of the World Bank was James Wolfensohn, the current president is Paul Wolfowitz (yes, that Wolfowitz)...both jews.

In my lifetime Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright have served (just WHO did they serve?) as Secretary of State...both jews.

I could go on but need I?

No you need not, trust me, I've read this before. But the point is that their unity as a people is breaking up and the consequences of their ideas and actions are coming home to roost. I would not attribute any more power to them than they deserve, lest it spread defeatism or distract attention away from the corrupt within our race- without which Jews would never have any political power.

Which supports my argument. Stormfront has been somewhat...what's a kind word for it...befuddled by the jews. They seem to be lacking a bit in WN fervor. They may have become part of what I described as the non-WN white people who have been duped into bashing and hating Muslims in response to jewish deception.

I can't say that with certainty since I only know about their position by reflection here on VNNF. I don't go there often. Can you refer me to the thread on SF where they are discussing the existence or non-existence of a Muslim Problem?

Generally you can find such threads almost anywhere on Stormfront. The news and poll forums are the best place to start. The problem with Stormfront is that too many long-standing members, as well as newcomers, are basically paleo-conservatives or mainstream conservatives- which means they suffer from the problem that the right-wing has always had: Reaction to superficial problems that distracts from the root causes of those problems. Spend enough time there and you'll see what I am talking about.


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Posted : 23/02/2006 3:09 pm
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The Jews aren't that smart,

I disagree with this statement and say that the jew or jews in general are very smart.


 
Posted : 23/02/2006 3:33 pm
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No you need not, trust me, I've read this before. But the point is that their unity as a people is breaking up and the consequences of their ideas and actions are coming home to roost. I would not attribute any more power to them than they deserve, lest it spread defeatism or distract attention away from the corrupt within our race- without which Jews would never have any political power.

Generally you can find such threads almost anywhere on Stormfront. The news and poll forums are the best place to start. The problem with Stormfront is that too many long-standing members, as well as newcomers, are basically paleo-conservatives or mainstream conservatives- which means they suffer from the problem that the right-wing has always had: Reaction to superficial problems that distracts from the root causes of those problems. Spend enough time there and you'll see what I am talking about.

I've seen the same thing on Stormfront in the last few years, I believe that many of the newly arriving Conservatives on there just pretend and play along with the traditional WN "Jewish focus" because they don't want to be attacked by the older members. Honestly they don't really see the Jewish issue at all.


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Posted : 23/02/2006 3:55 pm
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I've seen the same thing on Stormfront in the last few years, I believe that many of the newly arriving Conservatives on there just pretend and play along with the traditional WN "Jewish focus" because they don't want to be attacked by the older members. Honestly they don't really see the Jewish issue at all.

Yeah but I think that existence is sustained due to peopel among the sustaining members and moderators who fall under the conservative description.


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Posted : 23/02/2006 5:01 pm
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I am very frustrated over my failure to make my argument clear so I will try again to state it as succinctly as possible.

Before I start let me say unambiguously that I do not hate Muslims nor do I approve of the irrational Muslim banishing that we are currently seeing.

I will limit my analysis to the situation in Europe. I also recognize the fact, as some have pointed out, that some Muslims are white. These are mostly Bosnians, Albanians/Kosovars (80% Muslim who wield virtually all of the power) and Chechnyans (and some small neighboring countries). They are on the periphery of Europe, marginalized and few in number compared to the bulk of the Muslims in Europe who are non-white.

So: 1) The jews are engaged in a massive campaign of deception with regard to both the Muslim Problem and the impending "Clash of Civilizations" war.

2) One step in this campaign has been to provoke the Muslims to violence with the cartoons and the new Abu Ghraib photos.

3) As the jews hoped, this has led to two responses by white Europeans:
First, anti-Muslim sentiment, bashing and hatred among non-White Nationalist whites. The purpose of this is to gain support for their "Clash of Civilizations" war.
Second,for White Nationalists to conclude that since the jews seem to want us to be anti-Muslim we ought to do the contrary and either be pro-Muslim or at least ignore the Muslim Problem as a jew created diversion of our attention away from the jews.

4) The effect of this has been to split white Europeans (and Americans) into two camps: non-WNs, anti-Muslim and, WNs, let us say, non-anti-Muslim.

5) The jewish media has framed the debate in very simplistic terms designed to serve their ends: a) For non-WNs, there is a Muslim Problem in Europe and therefore you must support us in our "Clash of Civilizations" war. b) For WNs, there is no Muslim Problem or it can be ignored as a diversion from the bigger problem which is the jews.

6) The jews WANT WNs to believe that there is no Muslim Problem or to ignore it knowing full well that we do not have time to expose the jewish control of the governments of the White Nations before they launch their "Clash of Civilizations" war.

7) Once the "Clash of Civilizations" war against the Muslim Nations is underway, white Europeans (and most likely Americans too) will find themselves confronted at home with a large, violent, enraged Muslim population. They will serve as a fifth column unloyal to their nations of residence and well known to all as willing to sacrifice themselves in defense of Islam and their "home" nations in Dar al-Islam...the Muslim nations.

8) The jews seem set to get what they want: chaos within the White Nations and the demise of Western Civilization, complete military defeat and ruin of the Muslim nations, the expansion of Eretz Israel to what they believe to be its full extent and the "final solution" of their ages-old, group evolutionary agenda...total control by the scattered elements of the jewish diaspora within every nation in the world and the existence of Israel as its nerve center.

9) The hypothetical offer that I have previously suggested that we make, namely that we leave the Muslim nations and they leave ours, was made primarily as a tactical maneuver. To present this offer and have it resisted fiercely by the jews would expose the scam that they are pulling.

They do not want the White Nations to be rid of the Muslims. They created the political and intellectual climate that brought this problem upon us. They do not want the White Nations to withdraw from the Muslim nations, in fact they want them to be the military force which invades the Muslim nations. An invasion that serves only the interests of the jews.

What I have been proposing is that we, the WNs, make the contradictions in the jewish presentation of the situation clear to all white people everywhere...within the White Nations the Muslim Problem is a serious threat to our survival]

Burrhus, I greatly enjoyed your insightful posting above. Makes a hell of alot of good sense.

As I see it, there's little we can do now about either the Jewish or the much, much lesser, Muslim problem. Therefore, from a practical standpoint, I say we go all out to EXPOSE THE GD KIKES as persuasively and as extensively as we possible can.

And when the economical balloon goes up here, as it surely will in the not too distant future, America's Muslims will go for the snake's jewish head, as will an increased number of WNs, if we do our job well meantime.

When the smoke settles, THEN we'll make America's Muslims the offer you suggested.


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