Looks like Hal Turner has scared the shit out of Bill White.

“Bill White Single-Handedly Wrecks Turner - NSM Relationship
“NSM Radio Show Terminated from Network
“He didn't have to lie to save face. We could have worked things out. He blew it. What a shame.

“The damage being done to NSM by this man is serious. First, his online ranting caused NSM Members to be brutally beaten at a pro-white event by offended attendees, now he's wrecked the NSM radio show on the biggest pro-white media outlet in the world. How much more damage is Bill going to be allowed to do before someobody puts a stop to it?

“I harbor no ill will toward NSM and hope that one day, after the Bill White problem is fixed, we can resume relations”

“UPDATE July 6, 2006 12:38 PM
As of now, I have terminated the "NSM Presents" radio show from the network.
I sent the following notice to the Commander Jeff Schoep of NSM explaining why:

“Jeff:
“It is with regret that I inform you that I will no longer accept NSM audio shows on Turner Radio Network effective immediately.

“I am taking this action as a direct result of a story published by Bill White which falsely accuses me of engaging in a "publicity stunt" over the satan worship by Chairman Herrington's wife, falsely accusing me of using that publicity stunt in an effort to renegotiate money paid to me by NSM and further falsely states that I have been trying to renegotiate such fees "for weeks."

“For the record, NSM has not paid a single cent to me in months and I have not asked for any money - never mind MORE money - in months.

“My "Statement" about the Chairman's wife was true in every regard. My distancing myself was the right thing for me to do so as to preserve my self respect and the religious ideals I adhere to personally. I performed that distancing in a truthful and honorable way hoping to preserve the relationship with NSM.

“The Chairman choosing to share the P.O. Box with his wife's satanic cult was bad judgment. What Bill White has done is not only bad judgment but dishonorable. Rubbing salt in this wound is the fact that Bill's story came minutes after he personally spoke to me and mentioned nothing about any such smear attack against me. I will not put up with this type of bad behavior.

“I wish you and the NSM good luck in the future.
“Hal Turner”

Too bad RoguePostman is too ignorant to understand this. He probably sucks devil dick in his dreams....

Yes, take comfort in the safety and anonymity this medium affords you, Professor. In the real world, where you dare not tread, you'd be picking teeth out of your fucking throat right now. Isn't cyberland great you do-nothing, Jew piece of shit???

Too bad RoguePostman is too ignorant to understand this. He probably sucks devil dick in his dreams....

HaHaHaHaHa.........save your venom for the "big fish" brother................I'm just a small fry. lol

Chain: PORC, you are just about the best expert on the board concerning the panoply of all possible negativities of WN.

Why should we sweep this crap under the rug? That's the Erich Gliebe way, to silence others when inappropriate conduct is exposed in a WN organization. Now it's becoming the NSM way - to silence those who know that a devil-worshipping-dame has no place as the wife of a WN leader, anymore than a former Playboy slut has. Honorable conduct is just as important in one's private life - if not more so - since what you do and how you act behind closed doors is a closer reflection of one's inner self than one's public persona, which can be faked.

Clifford Herrington is married not just to a devil-worshipper, mind you. He's married to a devil-worshipper who exists in his household - at his choosing - promoting such insane ideas as "Teens For Satan", et al. Now, what kind of crazy shit is that? And why does Herrington tolerate it? Worst of all, this spell-casting-witch of his is doing this demon shit to make a fast buck, which I've no doubt Herrington himself takes a cut of. "Sure, why not baby? We'll use the sucker-dough to pay for household expenses, 'n shit". In other words, he's got a hand in this sleazy operation, Chain, and therefore is unfit to lead, due both to his seriously bad judgment and mendacity.

So, why is there such a pathetic desire to cover-up for these guys? Because, as far as I'm concerned, once individuals like Herrington get exposed for the cranks that they are, they've blown their wad. Stick a fork in 'em, they're done!

The NSM keeps demanding respect, but hey, they just don't earn it when they refuse to get rid of cranks like Cliff Herrington - as they should - by stripping him of rank and booting him out. But...it's cover up time again. Turner's trashing his posts about this case down the memory hole, and so too is Bill White. "Keep movin' along, folks! Nothin' to see here! We've already done your thinking for you and now we're blotting your memory - clean."

In other words, "it" never happened. There never was anything about "Satanism" or its connection to the NSM. That's genuine 1984 group-think, NSM style. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer free-think. Call a spade a spade, a fag a fag, and a Satan-worshipping-bitch-for-bucks a Satan-worshipping-bitch-for-bucks.

Role models count, Chain. Leaders are role models. But if they're a bad role model, then what good are they? In Herrington's case, he's been exposed as a bad role model. He's entangled himself in a web of Satanism, and he should resign. Promote a better man to Chairman.

Hal Turner should never have run an "expose" of the NSM chairman's wife, that is the problem. How can he do something like that and expect any other response?? He should retract and apologize and the parties involved should put this stuff behind them like grown-ups.

I remain committed to unity. I harbor no ill will toward NSM - and I'll get over my aggravation with . . . . whomever.

We all NEED each other.

I hope for a successful resolution of this matter.

The furor over this situation sends strong signals that should be heard by all. We need to ask ourselves, is the controversial spiritual beliefs of a spouse worth causing a schism of this magnitude between WNs? Ideally, there should be no concern one way or the other, but the fact remains, this is now a very public concern and all remedies should be aimed at restoring harmony among WNs.

Hal Turner steps forward and conducts himself like a real White man, I trust others will follow his example.

Bravo Hal Turner!

PORC said in 151-

Promote a better man to Chairman.

But will NSM be able to find one who properly gets down on his knees before Jesus statuary like Charlton Heston in El Cid?

post n° #127
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Brother Brutus posted a selection from Joy of Satan about the Bible-jew thing and I say once again, what hard-core neo-pagan could disagree with what was written there? The husband and wife were VICTIMS, if it was their vehicle, yet for some reason there are people blaming the VICTIMS. What is that all about?

The Lutheran Church has been working hard to make Manchester, New Hampshire a 3rd world hellhole. The Episcopal Church works hard to get reparations for negroes passed in Congress, works for homosexual "rights" does all sorts of evil as do many, if not most, so-called Christian churches and organizations.

However we are supposed to be in total shock and disgust because, allegedly, Mrs. Herrington looked at Christianity's fruits in America and chose a different approach.

Has she worked to destroy the White race?
Has she revealed the true identities of comrades?
Has she informed for the ADL or the FBI?

What EXACTLY is this woman's crime then?

Freedom of religion, it is part of our heritage as Americans.
If Mr. or Mrs. Herrington sneeze the wrong way they will get a big Federal beef, so far nothing, so I will say they are probably INNOCENT PEOPLE.
<snip>
I hope the NSM continues its street actions, I hope that the spirit of Adolf Hitler will raise up, for them, a Leader, then IT will begin

we may well ask what the HELL jd-xianity has done that could remotely be called 'good'? becuase of that shite, the White Race fought on the wrong side in WWII]the jd-xian approved 'HolloHoax' and now precious white blood is once again being expended to aid and abet the existence of worthless jew scum while the dis-arming of the White Race continues apace!
and all with the good-house-keeping yoo seal of jd-xian approval!

WTF?

and an NSM leader's wife is castigated for being 'a satanist' or some such twaddle.
isn't this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
who's our REAL ENEMY here?

(jimbo!)

Why should we sweep this crap under the rug? That's the Erich Gliebe way, to silence others when inappropriate conduct is exposed in a WN organization. Now it's becoming the NSM way - to silence those who know that a devil-worshipping-dame has no place as the wife of a WN leader, anymore than a former Playboy slut has. Honorable conduct is just as important in one's private life - if not more so - since what you do and how you act behind closed doors is a closer reflection of one's inner self than one's public persona, which can be faked.

Clifford Herrington is married not just to a devil-worshipper, mind you. He's married to a devil-worshipper who exists in his household - at his choosing - promoting such insane ideas as "Teens For Satan", et al. Now, what kind of crazy shit is that? And why does Herrington tolerate it? Worst of all, this spell-casting-witch of his is doing this demon shit to make a fast buck, which I've no doubt Herrington himself takes a cut of. "Sure, why not baby? We'll use the sucker-dough to pay for household expenses, 'n shit". In other words, he's got a hand in this sleazy operation, Chain, and therefore is unfit to lead, due both to his seriously bad judgment and mendacity.

So, why is there such a pathetic desire to cover-up for these guys? Because, as far as I'm concerned, once individuals like Herrington get exposed for the cranks that they are, they've blown their wad. Stick a fork in 'em, they're done!

The NSM keeps demanding respect, but hey, they just don't earn it when they refuse to get rid of cranks like Cliff Herrington - as they should - by stripping him of rank and booting him out. But...it's cover up time again. Turner's trashing his posts about this case down the memory hole, and so too is Bill White. "Keep movin' along, folks! Nothin' to see here! We've already done your thinking for you and now we're blotting your memory - clean."

In other words, "it" never happened. There never was anything about "Satanism" or its connection to the NSM. That's genuine 1984 group-think, NSM style. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer free-think. Call a spade a spade, a fag a fag, and a Satan-worshipping-bitch-for-bucks a Satan-worshipping-bitch-for-bucks.

Role models count, Chain. Leaders are role models. But if they're a bad role model, then what good are they? In Herrington's case, he's been exposed as a bad role model. He's entangled himself in a web of Satanism, and he should resign. Promote a better man to Chairman.

Oh yeah. You've always just been hoping and praying we suceed, right? You offer your advice out of genuine concern, correct? Give me a break.

Why don't you address the real issues here, CD, instead of slinging the "jew" word around, which is the same sleazy tactic Erich Gliebe once used in order to obfuscate his real agenda: covering up his systematic rip-off of the NA.

Stop the James Bond "Cliff Herrington is a hero" bullshit. Focus instead on the fact that you lost the extremely valuable and influential speaking abilities of Hal Turner just to cover up for Herrington's senile idiocy. Repeat: the NSM has LOST here, not gained. And if you don't accept that, you're not living in anything remotely resembling reality.

For starters, put a leash on Von Bluvens. Tell - nay - ORDER him to stop his fantasy role-playing games. People are sick of it.

Buy off Cliff Herrington, whatever it takes. Give him a parting gift, like a neck-tie or something, and maybe a free-dinner-for-two at The Sizzler, which I'm sure his wife would find appropriate. Then cut him loose.

And, three, formally apologize to Hal Turner on this forum, for treating his kindness and generosity towards the NSM with contempt. Bill White will never do it, so you need to.

Whose sick of what? And whose calling who a jew? Do you realize whose opinions you represent? Yeah, the enemy's opinions, thats who. I'm not talking about the enemy of the NSM, the enemy of the Klan, the Creators, AN or Hal Turner--I'm talking about the enemy of us all. They have broadcasted your opinions more than once and quoted you in their smear pieces. You can say whatever, if you aren't in with them, you might as well be. You share more opinions with them than you do with us.

Don't hand me all the "is this 1984?" BS either. You're the one who is wanting our Chairman to give up his position because of who he's married to. Wipe away a little bit of your hatred for White Nationalism before you sit down to look at a new way to beat someone over the head with something.

Hal Turner should never have run an "expose" of the NSM chairman's wife, that is the problem. How can he do something like that and expect any other response?? He should retract and apologize and the parties involved should put this stuff behind them like grown-ups.

In all fairness, this isn't Hal's fault. He was trying to put out the fire started by that old cunt Nichole Nicholes on her shitty little blog.

I don't think any would talking about this if it weren't for her. That's where your anger should be placed.

Its already more or less a dead issue. They shot their wad calling us everything under the sun BUT satanist. We've grown through concret in spite of all that.

CD: They have broadcasted your opinions more than once and quoted you in their smear pieces.

And "they" apparently contacted Hal Turner directly about this issue, and, apparently again, he fully cooperated in an exchange of emails with "them", saying, in effect, he would not tolerate "Satanism" to be connected to the NSM.

Yet...you don't castigate Hal for his cooperation in helping "them" bring this Satan-Gate to the forefront. My question: Why not?

As for "them" broadcasting my opinions, well, I haven't heard about that until you brought it up. Guess I'll have to go over to their lice-nest and give a listen.

Finally, believe it or not, (and you probably won't) but I've seen some good in the NSM, though I am not and never will be a National Socialist. Nor do I want an NS-type government to take power - but, instead, a pro-white patriotic party that is of strictly home-grown American origin.

My main complaint is that WN leaders - whether it's the NSM or the NA, does not hold their leaders accountable. Instead, they lie, deceive, and cover-up as SOP. I don't like that. If you do, keep doing it. But don't expect all of us to agree with you or not criticize your philosophy. I don't like your uniforms either, but....we've beaten that subject to death. But worse than the uniform issue is the Satanic connection that's been exposed between the NSM and The Joy of Satan. It isn't "pagan", as some have claimed, but merely the other side of the coin of Judeo-Christianity. In short, Satan-worship is the same thing as jewish-made demon-worship. Go on, keep brushing it under the rug. It doesn't matter, though. Permanent damage has been down to the NSM, though it may take a while before even you notice it.

Finally, what in hell is Chairman Herrington doing shopping at Wal-Mart for, while at the same time having the NSM's spokesman Bill White calling that store chain an insidious jewish-controlled business mechanism? I don't know what you call it - but I've got a nice word that fits: hypocrisy.

Do you sepnd everyday of your life writing those horrible long ass things on hating the NSM? Why dont you get off your ass and do something productive then bitch about other people.

I have better idea. Lets get eveyone in the movement on this forum and start being internet racist and bitch and moan about other peoples personalities and see how much we get done in the next few years for the movement. Im game anyone wanna join?