Yes. And who can reasonably argue with the Minutemen's sterling "It's not aboout race" and "We do racist background checks on our people" credentials?

That's not the point. The point is DTZ said they got media coverage because of NSM- the fact is that the MM get media coverage all the time, and because of that they are not obsessed with media coverage. Media coverage isn't an end in itself; If you want media coverage just get an army of strippers and sports mascots to march for pedophile rights- believe me you'll get coverage.

Lastly, regardless of the MM's theoretical differences, they have PRACTICAL value. Let's just say for example that the MM had only really prevented 40 Mexicans from entering the United States- 40 Mexicans that are stopped, deported, and don't return. That's still 40 more than the ENTIRE WN/NS movement has kept out.

The WN movement's obsession with theoretical parity and up-front-in-your-face action is why it fails to achieve any significance in the political arena. It is also identical to the same problem found in Marxist circles. A serious revolutionary movement LOVES groups that despite theoretical differences, work toward one of the revolutionaries' goals. A lot of times these groups can achieve those goals far more efficiently simply because they are only focusing on that issue and nothing else. And because it is a different group, it does not draw people and resources away from the revolutionary group.

Ok, I will say it again:

That Minuteman (or Minuteklan, according to OPP for a long time now whenever mentioning the group) rally would not have seen the light of day past the editing room had Comrade White not shown up.

Hey PedoTard,
try to follow whats being said. the fucking media were already there and every time in the past thier rallys have been televised.
all the NSM hobbiest fucktards did was turn off those people that might
have otherwise have been a big help

The mini men are quite clear about the issue of race. They don't give a damn about the White race and because of that I don't give a damn about them. Playing footsie with anti-White conservatives is a waste of time. Remember Congressman Tom T. wanting to sue Byron about his being in The Line in the Sand DVD.

Ok Ok fuck the Minutemen. They aren't hardcore outspoken WNs so they need to pack up everything and go home! Sure they brought a lot of national attention to the problems on the border, enough to get the federal government to actually fund the Border Patrol- but they don't "name the Jew" so to hell with them all!! Let the Mexicans keep flooding into the country totally unimpeded until a REAL WN organization gets down there!! Hell, the movement should start HELPING illegal aliens into the country just because the Minutemen aren't racialists so that makes them our enemy!!! RAHOOOOOOOOOOWA!!! 14/88 3.14!!!1

Doesn't the one Minuteman leader brag about not there's no way that he could be racist because he has a Mestizo grandchild? I'm glad the NSM showed up in DC and exposed the Minuteman for what they really are.

If they aren't fighting to help preserve our Race, I don't have time for them or really give a damn what they do.

Ok Ok fuck the Minutemen. They aren't hardcore outspoken WNs so they need to pack up everything and go home! Sure they brought a lot of national attention to the problems on the border, enough to get the federal government to actually fund the Border Patrol- but they don't "name the Jew" so to hell with them all!! Let the Mexicans keep flooding into the country totally unimpeded until a REAL WN organization gets down there!! Hell, the movement should start HELPING illegal aliens into the country just because the Minutemen aren't racialists so that makes them our enemy!!! RAHOOOOOOOOOOWA!!! 14/88 3.14!!!1

JP if you want to support them go ahead, tell them what you think about why we should protect the border and watch them react to your reasoning. Repost when they tell you to get the hell away from them.

A serious revolutionary movement LOVES groups that despite theoretical differences, work toward one of the revolutionaries' goals. A lot of times these groups can achieve those goals far more efficiently simply because they are only focusing on that issue and nothing else. And because it is a different group, it does not draw people and resources away from the revolutionary group.

Completely agreed. Have stated it before on this board.

Problem is, Amren, SF, Minutemen, Krishtons, and very newly racially awakening Whites spend an inordinate amount of time denouncing NSM, "nazis" (and it's hard here to confuse the meanings of the mainstream media's "nazi" versions).

If other WP orgs need to take their media and organizational cues from the Minutemen, then we'd better stop publishing TAA too, right JP? Oh yeah-- but you're not a fan of TAA either, correct?

So we'll all just hally on to the revolution then with our mutually complementing orgs, JP? Sounds good.

You are 100% correct, and the fact that when you see the muds yelling back at them calling them racists makes me want to puke. [color="Red"] I think the NSM are making a difference just like the Minute Men, the Minute Men for all intense purposes would love to have them help them, but the white power part doesn't help their cause. I live California and it's so fucked up out here right now that if your not illegally carrying a weapon your just plain stupid and I don't so I must be retarded....

What differance are they making ..Besides making everyone even slightly
conected with WN look like fucking morons And what makes you think the MM would want ANYTHING to do PedoTard Jeffy and his band of hobbiest clowns

JP if you want to support them go ahead, tell them what you think about why we should protect the border and watch them react to your reasoning. Repost when they tell you to get the hell away from them.

I know all about the Minutemen thank you very much- I live in Arizona remember? You run into them at Gun Shows all the time. The point is that they are dedicated people doing something that WE want, without us expending ANY resources of our own. Now why would we want to knowingly SABOTAGE what they are doing just to sate the egos of movement-figures?

Completely agreed. Have stated it before on this board.

Problem is, Amren, SF, Minutemen, Krishtons, and very newly racially awakening Whites spend an inordinate amount of time denouncing NSM, "nazis" (and it's hard here to confuse the meanings of the mainstream media's "nazi" versions).

NSM shouldn't have tried to horn in on their playing field. If you can get our message across without fucking things up for them(or any other useful group) then fine, that's desirable. But when our movement is weak, and yes it IS weak, it's best to let these groups continue to accomplish their goals while we find ways we can use them.

If other WP orgs need to take their media and organizational cues from the Minutemen, then we'd better stop publishing TAA too, right JP? Oh yeah-- but you're not a fan of TAA either, correct?

No, it just means learn how to use the media effectively like the Minutemen, and learn how to apply PRACTICAL activism like they are doing. Everyone protests or puts out literature, but at some point one has to find practical goals that can be accomplished.

So we'll all just hally on to the revolution then with our mutually complementing orgs, JP? Sounds good.

It's called a United Front. Fissile recently posted some scanned letters by Dr. Pierce on the subject that date back to 1970. He pointed out how a core of die-hard Communists could get thousands of people in the streets for various causes, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of those people were 1. Non-Jewish, usually white, and 2. ANTI-Communist. Basically small groups of organizers with a clear ideology and detailed goals were able to creat massive movements by carefully managing fronts and co-opting existing groups. When a certain group proved useful, they would ignore theoretical differences because they knew they could remain in control.

I know all about the Minutemen thank you very much- I live in Arizona remember? You run into them at Gun Shows all the time. The point is that they are dedicated people doing something that WE want, without us expending ANY resources of our own. Now why would we want to knowingly SABOTAGE what they are doing just to sate the egos of movement-figures?

So are jews against gun contol and darkies agianst crime but I wouldn't give them the time of day either. These people are not with us at all and that's the point that's most important. Hell Duke's Klan with Tom Metzger patroled the border many years prior to them and got a lot of attention. It should be our side that brings these issues to the public's attention, not kosher approved non-racist groups like the min men.

So are jews against gun contol and darkies agianst crime but I wouldn't give them the time of day either. These people are not with us at all and that's the point that's most important. Hell Duke's Klan with Tom Metzger patroled the border many years prior to them and got a lot of attention. It should be our side that brings these issues to the public's attention, not kosher approved non-racist groups like the min men.

If you don't want to give them the time of day then NO White Nationalists or NSM should have anything to do with them. No trying to take them over, no horning in on their rallies, etc. You know where they stand, so leave them alone. All I am saying is that they are accomplishing one of our goals for us, regardless of motives or theoretical differences.

JP, you missed what I meant-- that is, that I am in agreement that mutually complementing...even though seemingly "at odds" groups will work towards a final solution, both wittingly and unwittingly. The general state of affairs is deteriorating so rapidly in The Kwa, that we can and do give blow by blow, day by day accounts of the actions.

So even as some of us think it is incredibly important that NSM be denounced, the Multi Cult show goes on!

So are jews against gun contol and darkies agianst crime but I wouldn't give them the time of day either. These people are not with us at all and that's the point that's most important. Hell Duke's Klan with Tom Metzger patroled the border many years prior to them and got a lot of attention. [color="Red"]It should be our side that brings these issues to the public's attention, not kosher approved non-racist groups like the min men.

So fucking go to it Ron oh thats right your group has a march....err BBQ planed for a park somewhere in Ohio or the front yard of Jeffs trailer

Untill some group you do approve of is doing something or even anything you should shut the fuck up

Two bit said-

Untill some group you do approve of is doing something or even anything you should shut the fuck up

You're talking to Ron Doggett, pal. Maybe YOU should shut the fuck up.