Anyone remember Rev. Hale's apperance on "Heartland" a day before his arrest?

I expect Bill White to get the same treatment.

RaHoWa!

Yes, I DO remember that interview. I also remember when Mr. Hale was getting the better of Mr. Kasich that they suddenly had "technical" problems and the connection to the studio where Hale was turned to snow.

Exactly. Kasich makes O'Reilly look intimidating, and that's saying a lot. Best of luck to Bill White in his apperance on Faux News, and to the NSM in Orlando. Although I may not agree with your approach, we do believe in the same message.

RaHoWa!

Bump. Any moment now.

Bill White isn't going to be on now. I don't know the story on that. Sorry.

Thanks for the update Von. If I had to stomach anymore of this Kasich douschebag I was going to go in the bathroom and hang myself. Fuck this Jew.

Delenda Est Judaica!

Bill White isn't going to be on now. I don't know the story on that. Sorry.

What a waste of time, they ran an interview with that same old ex-Nazi "son has a cleft palate" moron. Next time don't bother us unless Bill White is really going to be on.

What a waste of time, they ran an interview with that same old ex-Nazi "son has a cleft palate" moron. Next time don't bother us unless Bill White is really going to be on.

That would be Floyd Cochoran....He looked like a homeless bum.

Desert Fox, don't be childish.

Anyone remember Rev. Hale's apperance on "Heartland" a day before his arrest?

Anybody have that show transcript? If so please post it here.

Transcript

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The toaster graphics below the commentators read "Rejecting Racism" and "Holding off Hate." The interview was intercut with footage of a WCOTC demonstration, Rev. Hale talking on the phone, and demonstrators becoming violent (no description was provided of when, where or of whom the footage was taken).

Below is a transcript of the interview, taken from the video provided. It was interrupted at one point, in part due to an "accidental" interruption in the satellite transmission.

KASICH: In tonight’s “On Main Street” segment...when it was announced that a White supremacist group was setting up shop in their town, the citizens of Riverton, Wyoming were up in arms. Should they have the right to put up the “not welcome” sign? Rev...uh, Matt Hale, leader of this controversial
group, joins us now from Peoria, Illinois (pronounced “Ill-eh-NOISE” by Kasich). Thanks for being with us, Mr. Hale.

HALE: My pleasure.

K: Uh, Mr. Hale, you are a group that says that there is no God; that, uh, God is really, uh, the White race; that G...that the White race is the Creator. How can you call yourself...a religion? You’re just a Wh...y’know, you’re just a White...hate group.

H: Okay, well...you threw a lot at me on that one, but uh, most of it is fallacious. Uh, yeah we don’t...

K: Isn’t it true?

H: We d...

K: Aren’t I right?

H: We don’t believe in a god, but...nor do Buddhists believe in a god with their religion...and the federal courts have recognized us as a religion. So, you don’t have to believe in a certain god, or a god at all to be a religion. As far as being a hate group, that itself is a misnomer, because we are here because we love White people, and we care about White people. I don’t know if you do, but...probably not. Uhh...(cut off by Kasich).

K: Well, let me ask you this, let me ask you this. You say that you’re not a hate group; in July of ‘99, Benjamin Nahan...Nathaniel Spit, uh Smith, who was a member of your church, uh...just a couple months earlier went on a random shooting spree that targeted minorities in Illinois and Indiana; they killed two, they wounded nine...and you know what you said about him? He was a man of honor and character, regardless of his shooting at non-Whites who shouldn’t be in America in the first place. How could you even make a statement like that? That’s an outrage! Are you defending a man who committed murder?

H: Well, you have to understand that we don’t believe...we don’t believe in your values system. You may believe that all men are created equal, but we do not. The other races are our enemies.

K: So you would basically...

H: They are our biological enemies, and….

K: Yeah, so...right.

H: ...and they are our inferiors.

K: Right. So you’re a hate group...just like I asserted at the top.

H: We have no interest in...we have no interest in your values system, and won’t let you shove it down our throats.

K: Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. How can you say that a man...who murders two people...and wounds nine...

H: How many White people have you caused the deaths of...

K: ...in an indiscriminate way...how can you call him a man of character? I wanna know. What are you...are you off your rocker to call a man like that a man of character? He’s a murderer!

H: I think you’re off your rocker. What hatred...(Hale disappears, replaced by static).

(Pause)

K: Well, obviously, ladies and gentlemen, we lost our guest, or he jumped off. I wanna just tell you a little bit more about that group. Uhh…their founder, Mr. Klassen, committed murder in uh, 1993...I’m sorry, committed suicide in 1993. He wrote: “We want total victory for the White race, until we inhabit all the good lands of this planet Earth exclusively. There’s no compromising, no appeasing, no peaceful living side by side with the mud races, the Jews and all the parasites.” Ladies and gentlemen, these are people who are protected under free speech in America. But y’know, the bottom line on this kind of a subject is…they ARE a hate group. I wanna give a lot of credit to the people in Wyoming for being willing to stay up for...stand up to these people, and I’ll tell ya the worst thing of all: if Mr. Hale and all of his haters wanna go live on the moon and practice their religion, God bless ‘em, but they have no right...they have no right to educate, uh...try to brainwash children. I wanna...I wanna just thank you for being with this segment. It’s tough...sometimes you gotta be. Up next...

(Kasich gives teaser for next segment; video skips to next portion of interview with Rev. Hale)

K: Uh, I read you the riot act, but I...here’s what my fundamental question is: your founder, Mr. Klassen...uh, has said...that there is “no compromising, no appeasing, no peaceful living side by side with the mud races, the Jews and all the parasites.” Do you endorse that statement?

H: I endorse every word of our founder. Absolutely. And you have to understand, though, that integration has proven itself a miserable, catastrophic failure in this country. How many White people have to be killed because of integration, while you s...while you sit there and smile about it? Uh, I mean, it’s...it’s
truly a travesty that you wanna point the finger at me and my church, when my church has committed...what? Five crimes in thirty years...

K: Mr. Hale...

H: ...when the black race has committed hundreds of thousands and millions of crimes in thirty years.

K: Yeah, well...well, first of all, that’s just...it’s phony baloney, Mr.
Hale, but...

H: It’s true.

K: Here...here’s the bot...here’s the bottom line for me. If you wanna practice this stuff, you go practice it in the middle of nowhere with whoever it is. But I don’t think you have any right to preach…this hatred...this kind of, uh...this kind of prejudice to children, and you do that, don’t you? You have children that go to these...these phony meetings that you have, where you talk about this kind of hate, don’t you?

H: You know what? We teach love of White people. And there’s nothing wrong with that. There’s nothing wrong with loving White people.

K: And what about other people?

H: We don’t love...

K: What do you teach about the other people?

H: The other races are our enemies, whether you want to admit it or not. They threaten our continued existence upon the face of this planet. We are becoming a ma...minority in this society alone. We don’t want to be a minority; why should White people become a minority? Can you answer a question?

K: Mr...Mr. Hale...Mr. Hale.

H: Why should we want to become a minority?

K: Mr. Hale...just...you know why? Because we’re a melting pot in America, and you know what?

H: Because you’re a fool, that’s what you are!

K: Real religion, let me tell you...

H: You’re a traitor!

K: Let me tell you what real religion teaches...whether you’re a Jew, or whether you’re a Christian or whether you’re a Muslim, you know what it basically teaches? Love. And what you teach is hate. That’s why you are disqualified...that’s why you are disqu...

H: I hear a lot of hatred in your voice.

K: Well, you know why? Because, sir, you’re trying to corrupt the minds, and pollute the minds of children.

H: You’re just worried that we’re advancing.

K: And I’d like to know, I’d like to know where...how the heck your mind got so polluted. Who the heck ever brought you up this way, and I say this to ya…you know what I’m gonna do? I’m gonna say...a prayer for you...in hopes that you’re gonna come to your senses.

H: You’re a believer in a false god. You believe in a Jewish god, and you bend your knee to a myth. We don’t. We don’t.

K: Mr. Hale...I’m gonna tell you this...we wanna thank you for coming on the show...but I am...I’m just so...I...it’s so amazing to me that in…that anybody like you could be in a position...to be able to carry this on. Y’know, I think the court’s gonna hold you on contempt on Tuesday.

H: And if they do, they do!

K: They want those books! They...I...they want those books destroyed!

H: That proves the fright of your system! You have betrayed your White people! And one day, you’ll pay for it.

K: So, in other words, you don’t even...you don’t even uphold the laws of the United States of America or the courts, do ya?

(Kasich stepped all over Rev. Hale’s next line while trying to get his next point out.)

H: One day you’ll pay for your treason. You don’t care about White people. This is a good politician! Now you have your own show, you’re a FAILED politician...and now you’re on television with your own show. That’s how it works.

K: Sir, let me ask you...sir, this is the kind of thinking...this is the
kind of thinking, Mr. Hale...Mr. Hale...this is the kind of thinking, you know...that Hitler operated under. I take it you...you DO condemn Hitler, don’t you? You DO think what he did was wrong...the Holocaust and...everything about him, don’t you? You’ll condemn him tonight.

H: The fact of the matter is that the Jews are parasites, and I don’t lose one minute of sleep for whatever happened to them in the Second World War, that was instigated by the Jews. I don’t care about the Jews, I care about White people. That’s my mission.

K: Well, the bottom line is, so the bottom line is, you ARE a hate group, you’re...you’re NOT a religion…

H: We are a religion.

K: You endorse the tactics of Adolf Hitler…

H: And your Christian friends have killed many people…

K: And you know what’s so amazing about America...what’s so amazing about America...is that we let people like you have the right to speak.

H: What about your own religion?

K: But I’m gonna suggest this to you...

H: What about YOUR religion? How many of thousands of died? Millions, because of your religion!

K: You better search your conscience, and you better stop polluting...the young people. Uhh...I wanna s...s...say goodbye to you.

H: Goodbye.

K: Thanks for taking the time to come on here, and I give you...I...I’m not gonna give you any credit; just forget about it.

H: You’re just a traitor to your White race.

K: Yeah, lemme tell ya, sir...

H: Look in the mirror.

K: You need to get...you need to get a life, and I hope...that you can be saved.

H: You need to quit kissing the Jew’s rear end. That’s what you need to do.

K: That’s the end of it. That’s the end of it. Let’s move on.

Thank you brother.

RE: VONBLUVENS

Thanks for the heads-up. I saw the broadcast.

Watching Fox news’ spin on the rally was to be expected. The average racially UN-aware White person was left with the impression that it was the evil Nazis who were causing trouble and who were arrested. The TV screen trailer simply stated that the NSM demonstrated in Orlando today and there were several arrests. They didn’t explain WHY the NSM was out there to protest. And they didn’t explain exactly who was arrested. These glaring omissions are the key to the jew’s misinformation campaign.

The broadcast was seen by approximately 50 million White people. And the lemmings have been re-propagandized to believe that Nazis are bad people. After viewing that Fox News report, there was absolutely no chance of the average lemming to come away with the impression that the NSM had a legitimate grievance.

My suggestion for future rallies would be for the NSM to take a serious look at providing more visible signage with an easy to understand sound bite. In other words, instead of holding and carrying flags, have all of the marchers carry banners of some sort that have an easily seen message. Instead of flags, (that will have limited positive meaning to the public) let the uniform project the NSM affiliation and have the flags on the sleeves.

Banner example: NSM IS HERE TO PROTEST AGAINST BLACK CRIME

All uniformed marchers should carry the same message, and that same message should be seen from no matter what angle the jew news filmed or took pictures. A 360 degree visible message with no room for spin or omission. Of course, I’m aware of the severe limitations put on the marchers with regard to what types of signage may be carried by the rally participants. This is just a detail that can be accommodated with some creativity.

I am so happy that there are White men brave enough to stand tall in the streets for White rights!

Thanks once again, NSM! :cheers:

Brutus,

Great suggestion. I have re-posted your comments on the NSM Forum for all to see and consider. I described you as a WN activist, NSM supporter, and someone I admire. Your comments will be seen by NSM leadership and hopefully they will be implemented at our next rally. Since we are only given 30 seconds of TV coverage, and then completely slandered and spun on later shows, it is important that we make the most of our limited exposure. Thanks for the great suggestion, and thanks most of all for supporting the actions of the NSM.

Best Regards,
DRC-NSM