I don’t get it. When does a bar fight involes FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force?

Easy answer: When Jews control the government

I don't like seeing any white man going to the slammer, and make no mistake, Shaun Walker is going to prison and won't see daylight again until he's an old man, because he'll get at least 20 years. When he leaves, he'll be 58, overweight, probably suffering from coronary heart disease from all the greasy prison food he'll have eaten over those years. For all practical purposes, Shaun Walker is dead, as surely as if a JTTF sniper bullet had ripped through his brains.

Now, what I'm going to say next may be controversial, but, in a way, there's a silver lining to all of this. Shaun Walker's arrest (and certain conviction) will finally put the final bullet into the squirming, writhing, still-ain't-quite-dead carcass of the National Alliance, ending Walker's cash-cow, along with taking all the land, and probably Resistance Records along with it, as Walker's milks the NA's last assets dry paying some Jew attorney trying to "save" him from the penitentiary.

It's a sickening end, yes. But the NA stopped advancing our cause years before William Pierce died, and was nothing but a fan club by the time the grim reaper paid him a visit.

You are right, I've been saying it for years: The National Alliance is a BOOK CLUB and nothing more.

Easy answer: When Jews control the government

Ethnic kike Mo Dees runs around free after having his cat's paw agent smack dab in the middle of the OKC mass killing of 168, but White Walker gets a three year joint FBI/JTTF million dollar investigation and probably at least ten years for hassling an illegal vader. Jew jitsu justice in Kwaziland.

It'd be a pretty cruel world if every nigger in the Kwa who got into a bar fight got 20 years. As it is, we are so mentally far gone that most Whites would probably agree with 20 years if zealous pro-Whites were in the fisticuffs. Next time before you take that swing at some knife-toting Mexishit who talks sex to your girlfriend standing at the bar while you're absent two minutes taking a piss-- remember-- one of the 66 Joint Terrorism Task Forces is right ready to lock you down for twenty years.

Chain, I listen to you on Goyfire and the one trait which really stands out in your voice that is different from the others is the sense of impending doom. Whites in America are running out of time and if a violent revolution doesn't occur within 10-15 years, will it ever?

Chain, I listen to you on Goyfire and the one trait which really stands out in your voice that is different from the others is the sense of impending doom. Whites in America are running out of time and if a violent revolution doesn't occur within 10-15 years, will it ever?

Lots of bright VNNers have considered the question. Unknown factors which might alter society's logical continuity could well happen. But if that's all we have to pin hopes on, it's quite a capricious dream on a gamble.

The system has the ability to "correct" enough to allow "letting off steam"-- safety valves for most exigencies. I do think some White individuals and White cells will take action-- but it will be too little, too late. I think most likely there will manifest this current steady slide into a giant Brazilian of a South Africa.

Most all of us have long roots there (in the former US). Our racial roots happen to be much longer. It's a planetary fight. I am telling you: Baltic Euros treat me with more amity and dignified, reserved racial fellowship than Kwa Whites ever did. It is a sick, sick place, the Kwa. One can't possibly know how bad it is till you have experienced otherwise. Life shouldn't have to be a constant battle to pretend to get along with competing races and cultures in a polyglot make believe country in which all may have their ethnic orgs and politic trumpeted by the state except Whites.

By the time those cells I mentioned get going, imagine how jooz and shabbez media will be villifying them-- and every White who doesn't vociferously denounce the "insurgents."

We can hope for a "hail cross-eyed Mary" pass which would create White backlash and a carved up White homeland-- limited nukes etc. might do the trick, but a wish isn't tangible.

At least we're talking it up. Media is the start. We're really making history. Jooz, other non-Whites and shabbez can laugh and ridicule all they want. Whites are still a formidable presence-- the most beautiful presence on the planet. All these orgs and individuals doing what we all do are heavily influencing the young. This will multiply in years to come. Combined with the dressing downs at every turn these young Whites will be getting from our enemies--well, these kids may not be the hand-wringers we are. Whites have more rights to organize on a worldwide level than jews do; we've had a far greater impact for advancement on human history than have the jews. Yet we haven't heretofore started asserting ourselves as a racial people in earnest. Once our media grabs and asserts this inherent right over time, larger masses of Whites will accept our goals as valid; right; fair. That logical unfolding will occur over time. Maybe we are now where the kike zionists were soon after they had begun.

The Kwa is a maelstrom of racial conflict played out in nearly every institution, social setting, inter-racial contact and broadcast throughout each day. Those who want to keep up the pretension that this state of affairs is natural, sustainable or pleasant may do so. For a while longer.

There is only one course of action. And that is to violently oppose this diabolical tyranny.

Here's the kind of talk that tries the patience of patriots. If you were going to do anything, you wouldn't be talking about it.

The Walker arrest is a surprise only to someone who thought the government was impartial, and that's an illusion we saw through a long time ago. Shaun Walker was targeted for a "hate crime" arrest because he was a White nationalist. As White nationalists go, Walker was a pretty low character. He was probably complicit in the theft of the National Alliance, if only by urging Erich Gliebe to sign his name boldly on all the necessary fraudulent paperwork. Walker also drank too much and often became mean-tempered while drunk.

I personally despise Shaun Walker, but I have to take his side on this one.

Thousands of niggers, each year, pick a fight with someone in a bar, usually choosing victims who can't effectively defend themselves...and they nearly always get away with it. Niggers are seldom arrested for fighting in a bar.

The same things could be said of Mestizos. The violent behavior of spics is roughly the geometric mean of those of Blacks and Whites. If you want to estimate the spic per capita rate for perpetrating almost any violent crime, you can do it by taking the square root of the product of the White and Black rates. I don't know why things work out that way, but they do. Spics, also, are usually not arrested, much less prosecuted, and certainly not federally prosecuted, for being in a barroom brawl.

I once called the police to report a domestic abuse in the apartment next to mine (this was in Huntsville, Alabama). A Black woman was getting the crap beat out of her by her nigger boyfriend. The police showed up and gave the nigger a warning, and then they left. No arrest!

Imagine what would happen to me, if I'd done it.

I can't see Shaun Walker, not even when drunk, actually going out of his way to pick a fight with a spic. The spic would have to initiate a confrontation somehow: a shove or an insult would do it. The spic probably believed Walker would get all meek and back down, like 90% of White men have been conditioned to do. Instead, Walker (I imagine) probably returned the shove or responded to the insult with a stinging rejoinder. And then the fight was on.

That is, I think it is likely that the spic is at least as much to blame as Walker is, and Walker's actual (if not alleged) crime isn't starting the fight, but winning it.

If you have noticed one consistant feature about multiculturalism, it's this: White people must not have dramatic victories or enjoy gains of prestige as a result of aggressive self-assertion. That goes both for the individual and at the national level. White countries that are winning a war against muds will be attacked by ZOG - that's what happened to Yugoslavia.

Jews may aggressively assert themselves with respect to anyone else, and it's OK.

Blacks may do with with respect to anyone except Jews... and except where the majority is neither White nor Black, in which places fighting racism by the majority against the minority isn't a priority with law enforcement.

White men who defend themselves from non-White abuse will be assigned undue blame and villified, unjustly prosecuted, and sent to prison as a means of making cowards of other White men.

Jerry Abbott

RE: Chain

One can't possibly know how bad it is till you have experienced otherwise.

Yes, with no other frame of reference to compare, all they see is a glitzy Hollywood stage facade, replete with neon signs all pointing to consumption is good avenues. And by God do they believe it! Especially when they slide their fat ass onto the leather seat of that new SUV gas guzzler and pretend not to preen for the admiring gazes of others who exist only in their heads...........As the jew rubs his hands together in delight.

It all boils down to the fact that the jew is creating a world that will make another Hitler impossible. That is the driving force behind all of the jew’s agenda. One by one the ingredients that gave rise to Germany’s AH are being taken-out the world’s collective White pantry.

But there are still a few cans left on the bottom shelf of the pantry. Hidden in the dark. Waiting to cut the jew when he reaches in to try take them out for destruction. And when the jew stares in disbelief at the blood dripping from his slashed fingers, he will fail to see the other sneaking up behind him with the garrote. He’ll never see it coming, and this time, it will be over before he can do anything about it.

And we will be free.

RE: Chain

Yes, with no other frame of reference to compare, all they see is a glitzy Hollywood stage facade, replete with neon signs all pointing to consumption is good avenues. And by God do they believe it! Especially when they slide their fat ass onto the leather seat of that new SUV gas guzzler and pretend not to preen for the admiring gazes of others who exist only in their heads...........As the jew rubs his hands together in delight.

It all boils down to the fact that the jew is creating a world that will make another Hitler impossible. That is the driving force behind all of the jew’s agenda. One by one the ingredients that gave rise to Germany’s AH are being taken-out the world’s collective White pantry.

But there are still a few cans left on the bottom shelf of the pantry. Hidden in the dark. Waiting to cut the jew when he reaches in to try take them out for destruction. And when the jew stares in disbelief at the blood dripping from his slashed fingers, he will fail to see the other sneaking up behind him with the garrote. He’ll never see it coming, and this time, it will be over before he can do anything about it.

And we will be free.

That's a pretty picture, Brutus.

They think they are making another Hitler impossible, but they are actually making him inevitable.

Actually, I think it's going to be more like an Aryan Muhammad who rallies the disspirited Whites to a militant racial religion. Ben Klassen talks about this in Nature's Eternal Religion.

Maybe Hitler was thinking too small with the emphasis on Germans. Admittedly, Germans are wonderful people, but Pan-Aryanism is the way to go. He should not have invaded Ukraine, but rather sent clandestine SS trainers in to help the Ukrainians and Russians exterminate the Bolsheviks themselves. Hell, hindsight is 20-20.

But the whole context of World War II and the history since then is a context of Cheap and Abundant Liquid Fuel.

When there is no longer Cheap and Abundant Liquid Fuel to power long range militaries and a police state where the cops can get to a scene in minutes via Crown Victorias and souped up Ford Tauruses, it will be a much different situation.

The niggers will still act like savages, but Whites will be forced to also be savage in self defense, and we will get away with it.

The Panopticon will be over. The local cops will be bribeable with a bag of potatoes.

The Jews get all their mojo from Cheap and Abundant Liquid Fuel, or CALF.

There will always be Fuel, but it won't always be CALF. If they have to make oil and fuel from Coal, it will be expensive and scarce. They will have to pick their battles. They won't be able to prosecute Whites who fight coloreds in bars.

I'm realizing something about the police - they are very limited.

The other day I was working in my garden and I heard gunfire in teh woods out back. It sounded like a 12 gauge shotgun. The wife and kid were terrified. We called the local police. Then I saw the people who did the shooting drive away very aggressively on a dirt road across a swamp from my property.

About 10 minutes later the dispatcher calls me back. "Where's your house?" I see the cops up the road looking for my house. So you see, if my house was home-invaded and we managed to call 911, the cops wouldn't even find us to help us!

So I direct the cop to my house, and I chat with him and point where the shooting was. I tell him the shooters are long gone. He says, "I'm going to go look out there anyway, just to make sure there's no one laying out there." I hadn't thought of that. I had only thought of it as recreational (if reckless) shooting. I see him go out there. Where the shooting was and me is separated by an impassable swamp, but the bullets could still hit me from there.

And I noticed he didn't even get out of his cruiser. Just riding through, shining the coonlight around to see if there's a body laying just off the side of the road. Duh, if you kill someone you throw them at least 20 feet into the brush!

If the cops are this lame with CALF, just think how utterly helpless they'll be when they have to prioritize their calls, and/or get there on horseback or a bicycle! Domestic violence and drugs will have to be de facto legalized. Ditto "racism."

America is so diverse, when CALF is no longer available, this is going to be a huge bloodbath. And frankly, I'm kind of looking forward to it :cheers:

Because the federal government has refused to protect the States from invasion, now Mexicans generally (12 to 20 million by most estimates) are present in the U.S. illegally. Even if the Mexican was legal, it would be reasonable for Walker to assume the Mexican was illegal. So even if Walker had beat up the Mexican (which he didn't) and even if it wasn't self-defense (which it was), Walker was protecting the States from invasion. I don't recommend doing what Walker allegedly did, but what Walker allegedly did, is what "acting" federal prosecutor Sorenson (a traitor to his oath to "support and defend" the U.S. Constitution) should be hanged (after a fair trial) for NOT doing.

As for the Indian, that's also the federal government's fault. How is Walker supposed to tell the difference between a legal Indian and one of the federal government's illegal Mexicans?

The Utah jurors might be afraid to vote or argue for "not guilty", if there's a Jew on the jury who will tell on them, spread the word that they're "racist", and maybe get them fired from their job. The non-Jew "acting" prosecutor (You mean he's not really a government official? He just plays one on TV?) already has been tampered by the Jews, or he wouldn't be making such an unjust indictment. That's proof that the Jews have tampered with the legal system so much that Walker can't get a fair trial in the U.S.

Send Walker to Russia for trial, with a note safety-pinned to his shirt saying, "We don't have any courts in the U.S. that can give a fair trial to a White man. We'll trade you Walker for one of those Jews you've got in prison for stealing your oil." Let's help Walker: distribute leaflets explaining to Whites, the injustice of this and how it affects them and their loved ones.

Fact: Walker and Gliebe destroyed the NA, either by incompetence, or greed, or intentionally.

Walker and Gliebe did ZOG a big favor, why would ZOG want Walker in jail at this point?

Walker and Gliebe did ZOG a big favor, why would ZOG want Walker in jail at this point?

Because jews are backstabbers, and they hate Whites.

RE: Jenab

Originally Posted by brutus
There is only one course of action. And that is to violently oppose this diabolical tyranny.

Originally Posted by Jenab
Here's the kind of talk that tries the patience of patriots. If you were going to do anything, you wouldn't be talking about it.

We would never encourage a WN to do something that would be illegal. And our sentiments should be talked about, openly, but with due caution as not to bring cause for the government to find these discussions seditious toward insurrection. We will scrupulously maintain legality within our rights.

Post #19 was no more illegal in it’s content then the fiery rhetoric from Al Sharpton when he‘s on FOX News having a boner sword fight with Bill O‘Rielly. I didn’t say that I was going to do anything illegal, I opined. My next post explained:

Originally Posted by brutus
There are many other White people who feel the pressure and they need direction. We are the only source in the world that will point the right way. How many listen to the Bill O’Reillys, who merely steer them into a neutered mental cul de sac?

We give them the proper analysis of events from a sane White perspective, that they can evaluate by their own accord. Not the heady rants of the jew mock-opposition shills. But from real White men, just like themselves. How they respond to our direction is up to them. We advocate “keeping it legal” and I will not back away from that, but qualify it by simply saying; What would you do to stop a nigger from raping your daughter, or killing your mother? What would you do to stop the jew who is responsible for unleashing the nigger upon us and doing all of those other despicable and filthy crimes against our people? What would you do to save your White Brother from unjust incarceration? These are the questions that must be asked, and answered by the readers themselves. And we fully understand the lack of written responses. Some things are better done then said.

I leave it up to the reader to decide for himself, what to make of this mess. If they decide to call 911, that’s their choice. The jew tells Americans everyday that Muslims are evil and that they must be destroyed, and then they go and do it! And they do it with the blessing of Uncle Sam and Sean Hannity as they blow apart children in Haditha. My declarations are what needs to be said about these things and I am entitled to say them under the Constitution.

Fuck the Constitution, let me step down off this BS soapbox for a second and just say. If someone out there wants to put a bullet into an influential jew’s head, that is their prerogative. I am not telling them to do it. All I’m doing is pointing out criminal things that the jew is doing and that the jew should be punished for these misdeeds. As it stands now, the American judicial system allows for jews to commit crimes and get away with it. The reader will take into account if they think that this is fair or not and then decide for themselves what to do about it. Maybe an FBI agent will read this and decide to arrest the criminal jews. Maybe some will try to vote their way to a better future. Maybe some will do other things. It’s up to them.

BTW: You’re OK in my book :cheers:

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As a computer amature I ask, is anyone capable of saving the entire NATVAN site for posterity? It is still a wealth of great info including all the old ADV's.

I think Solargeneral.com has all the ADV broadcasts but not the corresponding text files

http://www.solargeneral.com/music/Dr.%20William%20Luther%20Pierce/

Lots of bright VNNers have considered the question. Unknown factors which might alter society's logical continuity could well happen. But if that's all we have to pin hopes on, it's quite a capricious dream on a gamble.

The system has the ability to "correct" enough to allow "letting off steam"-- safety valves for most exigencies. I do think some White individuals and White cells will take action-- but it will be too little, too late. I think most likely there will manifest this current steady slide into a giant Brazilian of a South Africa.

Most all of us have long roots there (in the former US). Our racial roots happen to be much longer. It's a planetary fight. I am telling you: Baltic Euros treat me with more amity and dignified, reserved racial fellowship than Kwa Whites ever did. It is a sick, sick place, the Kwa.

How are the firearm laws in the Baltics?

Thousands of niggers, each year, pick a fight with someone in a bar, usually choosing victims who can't effectively defend themselves...and they nearly always get away with it. Niggers are seldom arrested for fighting in a bar.

The same things could be said of Mestizos. The violent behavior of spics is roughly the geometric mean of those of Blacks and Whites. If you want to estimate the spic per capita rate for perpetrating almost any violent crime, you can do it by taking the square root of the product of the White and Black rates. I don't know why things work out that way, but they do. Spics, also, are usually not arrested, much less prosecuted, and certainly not federally prosecuted, for being in a barroom brawl.

I can't see Shaun Walker, not even when drunk, actually going out of his way to pick a fight with a spic. The spic would have to initiate a confrontation somehow: a shove or an insult would do it. The spic probably believed Walker would get all meek and back down, like 90% of White men have been conditioned to do. Instead, Walker (I imagine) probably returned the shove or responded to the insult with a stinging rejoinder. And then the fight was on.

That is, I think it is likely that the spic is at least as much to blame as Walker is, and Walker's actual (if not alleged) crime isn't starting the fight, but winning it.

Jerry Abbott

As I read the federal indictment, the salient point is not the actual bar fight but a CONSPIRACY to violate the civil rights of the two non-whites. Heck, a lot of guys get into bar fights and if charges are filed by the aggrieved party or the cops and if a conviction results the violators can expect a 30 to 90 day stay in the county slammer and to pay some restitution.

But the big guns of ZOG are after a conspiracy conviction which will result in long prison terms and confiscation of the personal assets of the accused.

One more point. They can't get a conspiracy conviction unless they have a reliable witness to testify to the "conspiracy." The indictment mentions a 4th person (nameless) and he/she will be the traitor.