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1) Cowardly Pope Sides with Holo-Liars

Holy See deplores Iran Holocaust conference

The Vatican has deplored Iranian government denials of the Holocaust, reiterating that the memory of that "immense tragedy" should remain as a warning to end conflict and respect the legitimate rights of people.

AsiaNews reports that in a Vatican Press Office communique on the Holocaust conference sponsored by the Iranian government, the Holy See reiterated its own position on the Holocaust.

"Last century saw an attempt to exterminate the Jewish people with millions of Jews murdered of every age and social status for the only reason that they belonged to the same people," the Vatican statement said.

"The Holocaust was an immense tragedy before which we cannot remain indifferent. The memory of those horrible events must remain as a warning for people's consciences in order to end conflict, respect the legitimate rights of all peoples, urge people towards peace in truth and justice.

"Pope John Paul II asserted this position, among other places, at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem on March 23, 2000. His Holiness Benedict XVI reaffirmed it during his visit to the Auschwitz extermination camp on 28 May, 2006," the statement said.

Fr David Jaeger, a Jew, an Israeli and a Franciscan father, told AsiaNews that "statements coming from there [Iran] about the Holocaust profound insult me as a Jew, as a Catholic and above all as human being. I hope no one will exploit the Holocaust and my people any more and that everyone, with no exception, will hold an attitude of respect coupled with the determination of not allowing such outrages against God and humanity from taking place again."

http://www.cathnews.com/news/612/68.php

[The way to get respect from the Catholic Church is to kick it in the nuts repeatedly. Then it will fall at your feet, begging to worship you. What a sick pile of faggots.]

2) CBS

Israel Assailed At Holocaust Conference
Holocaust Deniers Applaud Iranian Leader's Claim That Jewish State Will Be 'Wiped Out'

CBS News: Lessons Of Auschwitz

(CBS News) TEHRAN, Iran Iran's hard-line president said Tuesday that Israel will be one day be "wiped out" just like the Soviet Union was, drawing applause from participants in a world conference casting doubt on the Nazi Holocaust during World War II.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's comments were likely to further fuel the outcry sparked by his hosting of the two-day gathering, which has gathered some of Europe and the United States' most well-known Holocaust deniers.

Anger over the conference could have political fallout, further isolating Iran and prompting a harder line from the West, which is considering sanctions against Tehran in the standoff of its nuclear program.

But Ahmadinejad appeared to revel in his meeting Tuesday with the conference delegates, shaking hands with American delegates and sitting near six anti-Israeli Jewish participants, dressed in black ultra-Orthodox coats and hats.

Ahmadinejad repeated predictions that Israel will be "wiped out," a phrase he first used in a speech in October, raising a firestorm of international criticism.

"The Zionist regime will be wiped out soon the same way the Soviet Union was, and humanity will achieve freedom," Ahmadinejad told the participants during Tuesday's meeting in his offices, according to the official IRNA news agency.

"By the grace of God, the arc of the Zionist regime's life has reversed and is heading downward. This is a divine promise and the public demand of all nations of the world," he said, bringing applause from the delegates.

The Tehran conference was touted by participants and organizers as an exercise in academic free expression, a chance to openly consider whether 6 million Jews really died in the Holocaust far from laws in several European countries that ban questioning some details of the Nazi genocide during World War II. [A joke - you're banned for discussing the whole thing, the chambers and everything else.]

It gathered 67 writers and researchers from 30 countries, most of whom argue that either the Holocaust did not happen or was vastly exaggerated. Many had been jailed or fined in France, Germany or Austria, which have criminalized Holocast denial.

Participants milled around a model of the Auschwitz concentration camp brought by one speaker, Australian Frederick Toben, who uses the mock-up in lectures contending that the camp was too small to kill mass numbers of Jews. More than 1 million people are estimated to have been killed there.
[What do the logs show? Russian? German? Red Cross?]

"This conference has an incredible impact on Holocaust studies all over the world," said American David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan leader and former state representative in Louisiana.

"The Holocaust is the device used as the pillar of Zionist imperialism, Zionist aggression, Zionist terror and Zionist murder," Duke told the Associated Press.

Ahmadinejad has used anti-Israeli rhetoric and comments casting doubt on the Holocaust to rally anti-Western supporters at home and abroad, particularly in Asia and the Middle East. Several times he has referred to the Holocaust as a "myth" used to impose the state of Israel on the Arab world.

The conference has produced worldwide condemnation.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair said Tuesday that the conference was "shocking beyond belief" and called the conference "a symbol of sectarianism and hatred."

He said he saw little hope of engaging Iran in constructive action in the Middle East, saying, "I look around the region at the moment, and everything Iran is doing is negative."

In Washington, the White House condemned Iran for convening a conference it called "an affront to the entire civilized world."

Israelis were outraged by the Holocaust deniers' conference, reports CBS News correspondent Robert Berger.

"This has nothing to do with research or any exploration of the historical issues but is merely an attempt to bring together anti-Semites to try and disseminate anti-Semitic propaganda and delegitimize the state of Israel," said Ephraim Zuroff, who heads the Israeli branch of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/topstories_story_346123959.html

Fox News reporter blinked multiple times as she asserted that "the" "Holocaust" is the best docoumented historical event ever. Fox caters to those satisfied with cliches. If it were so, great sport there would be in digging into the sick fantasies peddled at the show. Holding up their ludicrous lies to the light. Making fun of them, that all might laugh.

Not a single captive media source dares dig into the facts of whatever it is that slinks behind the mask 'Holocaust.'

3)

Holocaust conference in Iran: Aljazeera offers more balance than National Public Radio (NPR) reporter, objective coverage from most other international media

by Ted Lipien

FreeMediaOnline.org Free Media Online, Dublin, CA, December 12, 2006 — Many international journalists and broadcasters who could have had a difficult time providing their audiences with comprehensive and balanced coverage of the conference on the Holocaust being hosted in Tehran by the Iranian Foreign Ministry managed to overcome most of the problems. There were, however, a few exceptions.

The most notable was Western-trained U.S. National Public Radio (NPR) correspondent Mike Shuster who failed to offer more than a token voice to balance numerous comments from the Holocaust deniers which he incorporated into his report from Tehran. The NPR reporter included at least seven audio actualities and quotes denying or questioning the Holocaust without airing any substantive views challenging the conference organizers.

In addition to statements from Iranian officials, Mr. Shuster’s report featured two audio segments from a former U.S. politician and Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke. There was only a passing reference in the NPR report from Teheran to a remark by an anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox British rabbi who, while being opposed to the formation of the state of Israel, admitted that there is sufficient evidence to prove the Nazi extermination of the six million European Jews. [Link to NPR report]

Despite the highly controversial nature of the conference, the NPR correspondent made a mistake common among some journalists who fail to provide balance for their on-the-scene reporting when opposite points of view are not readily available or when faced with a barrage of propaganda. A classic example of such reporting was the New York Times correspondent Walter Duranty’s coverage of the Soviet government-created famine in Ukraine and the Stalinist political show trials in Moscow in the 1930s. Mr. Duranty’s reporting relied heavily on repeating Soviet propaganda claims. He received the Pulitzer Prize for his work, but subsequently his reporting was strongly criticized by other journalists and anti-communist groups.

NPR program hosts in the United States tried to remedy the lack of balance in the report from Tehran by including a report on a rival conference dealing with the Holocaust being held in Germany’s capital Berlin. Their efforts, however, failed to address some of the claims voiced in Mr. Shuster’s report. The NPR correspondent in Tehran also failed to highlight the propaganda purpose of the conference. Some journalists object to the use of the word “propaganda” in order to avoid any accusations of bias, even when scoring propaganda points is clearly the primary motive and the claims being made are clearly untrue.

Surprisingly, the Arab satellite television channel Al Jazeera’s English web site story on the Holocaust conference had far more balance than the NPR report on Monday. Covering the same event, Al Jazeera was able to tell its audience that the conference has deeply offended the 25,000-strong Jewish community in Iran. Al Jazeera quoted comments by Moris Motamed, a leader of the Iranian-Jewish community and a sole Jewish member of the Iranian parliament, who said that denying the Holocaust was “a huge insult.” Al Jazeera quoted Mr. Motamed as saying that “by holding this conference, they [the government] are continuing to insult the Jewish community.” [Link to Al Jazeera report]

Al Jazeera also reported that many ordinary Iranians admitted to embarrassment about the event, which followed Iran’s decision to hold a competition for cartoons about the Holocaust in October. The Arab satellite television network also quoted an unnamed former senior Iranian government official who said that hosting the conference was unwise given diplomatic pressure on Iran over its nuclear program. The former Iranian official said that “such conferences should not be held.”

While Al Jazeera also quoted comments by Iranian officials and some Western Holocaust deniers, its report was far more balanced and objective than what the NPR correspondent was able to report from Tehran on Monday.

Voice of Islamic Republic of Iran made no attempt to balance its reports on the conference. The station reported Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki’s claims that the West is responsible for anti-Semitic sentiments.

The stories posted on the Voice of Islamic Republic of Iran web site were written in somewhat ungrammatical English but made a clear point that the historical reality of the Holocaust needs to be questioned. Mr. Mottaki was quoted as saying that “those trying to politicize historical occurrences have prevent[ed] scientific probe and research on the Holocaust that is supposed to have taken place in Europe during Second World War.” Mr. Mottaki was also quoted as saying that “anti-Jewish sentiments are a Western phenomenon while Islam, as a religion based on logic and in harmony with the innate nature of mankind, completely differs from Nazism and other racist ideologies of Europe that had long persecuted Jews and other religions. In view of these facts, he said: Islam and Muslims reject Zionism as a racist political ideology.” [Link to Voice of islamic Republic of Iran report]

A comprehensive report posted on the BBC English web site included significant comments from the critics of the conference, but it was balanced with numerous opposing viewpoints. In addition to interviewing Mr. Motamed and including his critical comments about the conference, BBC also quoted Israel’s Prime Minister Ehud Olmert who condemned the gathering as “a sick phenomenon that shows the depths of hatred of the fundamentalist Iranian regime”. BBC also reported on condemnations of the conference by the U.S. State Department and Norbert Lammert, president of the German parliament who sent a letter to Iran’s President Ahmadinejad criticizing the event. [Link to BBC report]

CNN also posted a comprehensive report on its English-language web site. It quoted Manouchehr Mohammadi, Iran’s deputy foreign minister for research, who told Iran’s state-run news agency, IRNA, that Tehran’s leaders would accept that the Holocaust occurred if scholars attending the conference could prove that the Nazi regime exterminated 6 million Jews during World War II. Mohammadi said if Iran accepts the validity of the Holocaust, the next question examined will be, “Why should the Palestinians pay for the Holocaust?” CNN also reported that Tehran also plans to host conferences to look into what Mr. Mohammadi described as genocide by Europeans against Native Americans, Africans and the Palestinians.

But CNN also included in the same report comments by Rabbi Marvin Hier, founder and dean of the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Center, who organized a videoconference of Holocaust survivors to counter the claims of the Tehran conference participants. CNN quoted Rabbi Hier as saying, “That is why we gathered together Holocaust survivors who will counter these bigots and revisionist claims by giving first-hand accounts of what they actually experienced and witnessed and how their lives were shattered.” [Link to CNN report]

A report on Radio Netherlands English-language web site by Thomas Erdbrink favored the official Iranian point of view with only two brief comments in strong defense of the historical reality of the Holocaust. [Link to Radio Netherlands report]

Some broadcasters in countries with close links to the Iranian government chose not to report on the conference, presumably in order to avoid offending the Iranian leaders.

Voice of Russia (VOR) English web site did not post a story on the opening of the Holocaust conference in Tehran while showing on the same day three reports dealing with Russia’s economic relations with Iran. One of the VOR stories confirmed Russia’s offer to enrich uranium for the Iranians. Voice of Russia also reported on the arrival in Tehran of the Head of the Russian Atomic Energy Agency. [Link to VOR English news web page]

Radio Havana Cuba was another international broadcaster that did not report on the Holocaust conference in Tehran on its English-language web site. [Link to Radio Havana Cuba English-language world news page]

Another government-funded Russian international broadcaster, English-language satellite television news channel, Russia Today TV, which generally provides more objective reporting than Voice of Russia, posted a balanced story on the Holocaust conference in Iran while quoting extensively from statements by the Iranian officials. Russia Today TV ended its story with remarks from the chairman of Israel’s Holocaust museum Avner Shalev who said that the conference in Teheran is paving the way for genocide”. The report noted that the Yad Vashem Museum in Israel is expected to hold a symposium later this week to discuss ways to deal with the denial of the Holocaust. Russia Today TV failed to report whether there was any comment on the conference from the Russian government. [Link to Russia Today TV report]

Beijing’s international broadcaster, China Radio International, posted a report the Holocaust conference on its English-language web site and balanced comments by the Iranian officials with criticism from U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, the U.S. State Department, and the German Foreign Ministry. China Radio International failed to note whether there was a comment from the Chinese government. [Link to CRI report]

Germany’s international broadcaster, Deutsche Welle (DW), titled its story “Iran opens controversial Holocaust conference” and noted that Berlin is hosting a rival conference of academics. Deutsche Welle online report was short but highly critical of the conference. DW quoted a senior German researcher into anti-Semitism Wolfgang Benz who said that the far-right scene is becoming increasingly bold in its publicity. [Link to DW story]

U.S. government-funded international broadcaster, Voice of America (VOA), quoted comments by the Israeli Prime Minister and had a report from Los Angeles on how some of the Holocaust survivors have reacted to the conference in Tehran. Surprisingly, VOA English web site did not include Monday’s comments by the State Department spokesman who said at the daily briefing for reporters that “a conference designed to try to deny the fact that six million innocent people lost their lives in a brutal, despicable manner is just awful.” He added that “the fact that this is a regime that says it wants to wipe Israel off the face of the map, […] should be of grave concern to everybody around the world.” U.S.-funded Alhurra TV and Radio Sawa, which broadcast in Arabic, do not post news on their English-language web sites. [Link to VOA story] [Link to U.S. State Dept. daily press briefing transcript]

Another U.S.-funded international broadcaster Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty had one of the most comprehensive and balanced reports on this topic. RFE/RL interviewed Sadegh Zibakalam, a professor of political science at Tehran University, who thinks that the event damages Iran’s national interests and its international image.”As an Iranian, I’m perplexed and astonished by the actions of our foreign ministry. I don’t know what is the honor of gathering a group of anti-Semites, neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klan members, and racists — and bring them to Iran, for what?” Zibakalam said. “I don’t understand what our establishment is trying to gain or to prove by doing this. And this is happening at a time when our nuclear case is at the UN and we have to do our best to gain the trust of the international community.”

RFE/RL also included a quote from a spokesman for UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, Stephane Dujarric, who told reporters in New York on December 7 that Annan regards any attempt to cast doubt on the reality of that “unique and undeniable horror” must be firmly resisted. Dujarric noted that the UN General Assembly passed a resolution in 2005 that “rejects any denial of the Holocaust as an historical event, either in full or [in] part.” [Link to RFE/RL report]

Of all the reporting by U.S. and international broadcasters monitored by FreeMediaOnline.org, a California-based nonprofit organization which supports press freedom worldwide, only NPR report from Teheran was significantly short on balance. Most broadcasters, including those generally not known for objective reporting due to government controls or other sources of bias, managed to provide balance for this story. Voice of Russia and Radio Havana Cuba failed to include any reports on the conference on their English-language web sites. None of the broadcasters monitored by FreeMediaOnline.org referred to the Holocaust conference in Teheran as designed primarily for propaganda or attempted to do an in-depth analysis of propaganda aspects of this story.

4)

Complete crickets from the "real history" cowards called libertarians. They're very concerned that you know the truth about Abe Lincoln, an important figure in the 19th century. They dare not say a thing about the most monstrous lie in human history.


 
Posted : 12/12/2006 5:44 pm
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Excellent review of news coverage on Iranian conference, Mr Linder, thank you. Now I know where exactly look for news.


 
Posted : 12/12/2006 5:56 pm
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NPR report:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6610013

Al-Jazeera: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/6490BD25-3FFA-4E7D-9D1F-D3A23F7E84DF.htm

Voice of islamic Republic of Iran
http://english.irib.ir/news/print.asp?id=9457&titel=Top%20Stories

BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6167695.stm

CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/11/iran.holocaust/index.html

Radio Netherlands
http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/irn061212mc

Russia Today
http://www.russiatoday.ru/test/index.php?id=8&L=0&tx_ttnews[backPid]=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=1207&cHash=40b90e36d8

China Radio International
http://english.cri.cn/2947/2006/12/11/272@173121.htm

Voice of America
http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-12-12-voa2.cfm

Radio Free Europe
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/12/28d15ea9-683c-4232-bde0-227a57c5f2e4.html

GREAT! I'll add a link directly to this post to The Hudson Valley Freeman ASAP!

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Posted : 12/12/2006 6:02 pm
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Thank you Alex.

I was born and raised a catlick but abandoned it when I got kicked out of 5th grade at a catlick school for thinking on my own.

It's been amazing watching the church destroy itself, especially with the vatican II suck-up on down the line to the ped scandals.

I noticed today that ONE THIRD OF THE HOLOCAUST ( http://www.codoh.com/video/onethird.html ) got some heavy attention (hits and media mention) and that the numbers on the VNN Forum have been consistantly high in the last 24 hours. My hope is that with all the attention from the Iranian Truth Conference, folks are searching out more information on the hoax.

Between the kikes tripping over themselves on their nuke ownership issue and now the Iran Conference, it looks like izzykikejewzionberg has a lot of damage to try to control.

Hit em high, hit em low, grab their throat and don't let go! WHITE POWER!


 
Posted : 12/12/2006 7:46 pm
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"Pope John Paul II asserted this position, among other places, at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem on March 23, 2000. His Holiness Benedict XVI reaffirmed it during his visit to the Auschwitz extermination camp on 28 May, 2006," the statement said.

Interesting. I am not Vaticanologist. But I am a student of it. And imo this is a weak response. This is not a Papal Statement denouncing the Holocaust Conference. Rather Pope Sidious [sorry God, lighten up would ya] had two purple monkey minions of His to refer to His May visit where He referred to John Paul II and inscriptions he read there. Not exactly a crushing official rebuke. Considering the Jews have bled over 1 Billion US$ from his war chest wrt priest diddling affair I figured he would have made a much stronger Jew appeasing statement. :confused:

Here is Pope Sidious's 28 May, 2006 speech.

Remember Papal infallability is a big deal to the purple ones and his speech writers don't want to set the old Man up for a fall.

Look at these Papal statements from His Aushwitz speech. [My emphasis in bold.] One could easily spin this as supporting Holocaust investigations:

"How many questions arise in this place!"
"Constantly the question comes up: Where was God in those days?"

"The place where we are standing is a place of memory, it is the place of the Shoah. The past is never simply the past. It always has something to say to us; it tells us the paths to take and the paths not to take. "

When He bad mouth Germans He does indirectly by reading inscriptions [placed by Jews] rather than stating them himself:

"Some inscriptions are pointed reminders. There is one in Hebrew. The rulers of the Third Reich wanted to crush the entire Jewish people, to cancel it from the register of the peoples of the earth..."

Curiously the Pope reminds the Jews of claim of theirs about God's beat down of Jews "How could he permit this endless slaughter, this triumph of evil? The words of Psalm 44 come to mind, Israel’s lament for its woes: “You have broken us in the haunt of jackals, and covered us with deep darkness ... because of you we are being killed all day long, and accounted as sheep for the slaughter. ..." and the reminds them rather empatically that there are Holocausts today "How many they are, even in our own day!" [Lebanon? Iraq?]

"So there is hope that this place of horror will gradually become a place for constructive thinking, and that remembrance will foster resistance to evil and the triumph of love."

Students of Foggy Bottom speeches would know there is a lot more going on in this speech than meets the eye. I would bet rabbi Vatican watchers are in a tiff over this. imo the Jews got pwned. ;)


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