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[...] another National Alliance splinter group opposed to Strom, Vanguard News Network, has also been reported to have lost most of its activists and stopped publishing its regular newspaper, the Aryan Alternative, after a split between its publisher, Alex Linder, and several of its regular contributors.

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Posted : 27/04/2006 2:29 am
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The next issue of TAA will be published in late June, I believe.

Also, there is another VNN-related tabloid now, the White Patriot Leader.

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Posted : 27/04/2006 2:36 am
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The next issue of TAA will be published in late June, I believe.

Also, there is another VNN-related tabloid now, the White Patriot Leader.

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Yes, Alex says TAA 4 (TAA's 6th edition, btw) will be printed in 40,000 copies not later than 30 Jun 06. Bringing the total printed to 153,000 copies.

The White Patriot Leader is scheduled to be printed in 40,000 copies this coming weekend.

These two 16-page newspapers have separate target audiences, which doubles the effectiveness.

VNN is still strong in spite of the recent controversy. Most of our contributors and distributors will continue to provide their support, time, and labors. And Alex will continue the excellent job he's always done with main page. Which, according to Stan, receives over 1,000 hits daily.


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Posted : 27/04/2006 7:33 am
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And Alex will continue the excellent job he's always done with main page. Which, according to Stan, receives over 1,000 hits daily.

1,000 hits a day ain't going to do it.


 
Posted : 27/04/2006 8:06 am
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1,000 hits a day ain't going to do it.

I was told it was 175 hits per day. ( That is for both VNN and VNNF).

Futhermore, all registered users must, going forward, submit a fingerprint and photo before posting.


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Posted : 27/04/2006 1:35 pm
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Itz good enough for the main page, I bet the forum gets a damn site more. So why not make all forum users log in on the main page only? That'll push the hits ay up??

wouldn't that be considered padding the numbers? lol :p

hee, hee, reminds me of singers going out an buying up their own singles, lol


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Posted : 27/04/2006 4:11 pm
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submit a fingerprint

hee, hee, I'm clean. ;)


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Posted : 27/04/2006 4:12 pm
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Do you recognize this one?


 
Posted : 27/04/2006 4:41 pm
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Sure VNN has lost a few posters, but most of us old fighters are still here. Things could have been handled a little better, but I'm in this for the long haul not just the short term. I will not turn my back on something that has accomplished so much, with so little. If we don't start sticking together, we can all hang separately. It's unity stupid!:box:


 
Posted : 27/04/2006 7:29 pm
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Sure VNN has lost a few posters, but most of us old fighters are still here. Things could have been handled a little better, but I'm in this for the long haul not just the short term. I will not turn my back on something that has accomplished so much, with so little. If we don't start sticking together, we can all hang separately. It's unity stupid!:box:

Amen to that, SA Mann. What other WN site has accomplished the printing and distribution of 113,000 copies of a 16-page White Man's newspaper, with another 40,000 printed this Sunday, and yet another 40,000 scheduled for June 30th ??? Not even counting all the other ACTIVISM projects we've successfully carried out.

And VNN activisms have generated more jewsmedia "compliments" via TV, radio, and newspapers than any other WN group or website.

One of our ACTIVISTS is more valuable to our Cause, than a hundred contribute-nothing-do-nothing-but-talk paralyzed, paranoid, keyboard commandos.

So when we talk of numbers, we multiply each activist and contributor by 100 for the accurate picture.


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Posted : 28/04/2006 9:10 am
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Sure VNN has lost a few posters, but most of us old fighters are still here. Things could have been handled a little better, but I'm in this for the long haul not just the short term. I will not turn my back on something that has accomplished so much, with so little. If we don't start sticking together, we can all hang separately. It's unity stupid!:box:

Cheers to that, Kinsmen. :cheers:

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Posted : 28/04/2006 9:43 pm
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Noo VNN is just getting going. If those 'former members' didn't know what that porn stuff was about..then THEY HAVE LOST THE PLOT ! ..... I got it .. so did a lot of VNN'ers like me who are still here.

Weed em out -- move forward - and grasp the nettle !


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Posted : 29/04/2006 2:51 am
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Noo VNN is just getting going.

Yeah right, how many times will it get going? Every time VNN builds up a strong base, Alex shoots himself in the foot and we're back to square one again, fighting an even harder uphill battle because he chased so many good WNs away. I've seen him do this three times now.
The forum has sucked from day one, it has no viable purpose or direction even though there are many good, dedicated people here, but Alex's bizarre policy of permitting kikes, queers, mongrels and nutballs to post freely and unencumbered is not only a waste of time for the true WNs who have to constantly confront them here, but negates the efforts of all those who are out there in the streets when a newbie comes here to see kikes and morons making this place look like a monkey house-and never returns.
For this forum to have an effect it needs to enforce some rules: kikes, queers, mongrels and nutball disrupters should be banned IMMEDIATELY! I say rename OPPS Auschwitz and send them there. Another section should be set up for those misguided fools who think those nasty A-rabs hate un for our freedom, you know, those closet Michael Weiner fans who believe the "official" 911 tripe, banish them to a Re-education section and if they ever get with the program, let them back. TAA is ok but a grass roots effort should be put in place. See posts below from Stormfront concerning 911, there's a guy who has the right idea and this type of approach could be very effective. Finally, some kind of system needs to be put in place to prevent Alex from acting on his brainstorms: he should go over anything new he dreams up with a few trusted WNs or maybe even on the forum so anything damaging to the cause can be nipped at the bud.

Here are the Stormfront posts:

POST 1:

I did not see it myself, but I just learned that this was on CNN Wolf Blitzer last night. Here is the link to CNN where you can see that they even link to the site!

This video, "9-11 Loose Change 2nd Edition" is absolutely on FIRE right now, sweeping the web. They showed the website, http://www.loosechange911.com, they talked about the video and were expecting to be torn to shreds and apparently Wolf and co. didn't even criticize it!

I downloaded it, watched it, and I can tell you it is absolutely superb. It tears the "official" 9-11 story to pieces in a way that makes me want to bring a box of about 10,000 to the nearest mall and just start handing them out to people.

Right now, on BitComet I am seeing 627 people downloading this video right now and steadily rising. And yet I could SCREAM at the top of my lungs right now.

So why am I so mad considering what a job this video does at completely deconstructing the "official" 9-11 story? Because when they finally get to the "who" and "why", the blame is placed on President Bush, his brother Marvin, a $167 billion gold heist, people "making tons of money" (even though we will lose 100X more in Iraq) etc. etc. THERE IS NOT ONE MENTION OF ISRAEL, 300 "art students", five Mossad agents, the fact that not ONE Israeli died in the attacks, that there was proof from Odigo that Israelis were warned 2 hours before the attacks.... I could go on and on but most people here know all of this stuff already. They did connect the dots that even though neo-cons mention something to the effect of "needing a modern Pearl Harbor" this event was actually used as a pretext to get the American People primed and ready to invade Muslim countries on behalf of Israel. NOT A DAMN THING ABOUT ISRAEL!!

On their forums over at loosechange911.com they are expressing shock and glee that the video was taken seriously on CNN rather than savaged. I wonder why? Could it be because when it comes time to answer the "who" and the "why" fingers are pointed at everyone BUT Israel?? As if a "gold heist" was anywhere near as big a reason as getting the U.S. to defeat and install Kosher governments in as many Muslim countries as possible? The few posts I did find dealing with the Israeli connection were not deleted which is hopeful, but most of the responses were the junk you would expect from the brainwashed masses who have never done any research into International Zionism. It was pure PUKE!!

Their forum is BIG... it's not some obscure little conspiracy theory forum. This looks like a Stormfront project to me. There are a lot of 9-11 experts here and a lot of people need to be told the ENTIRE truth over THERE. They've got 90% of it. Unfortunately, the missing 10% is the most important. For anyone going over there I would suggest the following:

1) Be respectful and present only the FACTS in a respectful fashion. We know about the Mossad art students, the 5 Mossad agents, Odigo, the list goes on and on. These are people who for the most part are absolutely clueless about International Zionism and that forum isn't the place to school them on it nor should it be. BUT, by simply giving them the additional facts they are missing, they will likely start to put the rest of the puzzle (International Zionism) together on their own.

2) Don't say "The Jews" or even "Zionism", instead say ISRAEL. Say Mossad Agents, Israeli Mossad Agents posing as art students, Israeli interests, etc. By doing so you will not set off "holocaust alarm bells" in their heads which we've all been programmed since birth to have. Remember: they are still programmed, we are not. Got to be gentle at first. If they can be made to believe simply that Israel and Israeli interests were behind this, they will be able to make the logical next step which is suspicion of Israel in general which will lead them to International Zionism.

3) Don't use your Stormfront ID. Don't post links here on their forum in your sig, don't post links to ANY site that could be considered even remotely "anti-semetic". I stated in another post that we are engaged in a chess match against the all-time grandmasters, International Zionism, and to defeat them we need some flawless strategies. This is strategy, and it will WORK.

4) This will be more controversial, but I'm going to suggest a proxy moderator who anyone involved in this effort will give their loosechange911.com forum ID and password to. The job of the proxy moderator will be to EDIT posts of anything that could set off the dreaded "holocaust alarm bell" in the heads of these people. Not necessarily removing any information]POST 2:

This thing has broke WIDE open folks....

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=290120

The fact that CNN would cover this in such a manner strongly suggests that they believe the official story will not hold up much longer. They chose "Loose Change", which is a superb video, because it blames everythign on a "gold heist" and other nonsense with not a PEEP about Israel.

I sense this is a huge opportunity to deal a knock out punch to International Zionism. They will soon be on the ropes. 90% of the truth about 9-11 is now going to the mainstream; I've got 989 downloaders and 124 seeds and climbing for "Loose Change" showing in BitComet. It's only a matter of time before the entire country knows 90% of the truth.

All we have to do is fill in the remaining 10% and they are FINISHED for good.


 
Posted : 29/04/2006 8:36 am
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RE: evilisgood

Yeah right, how many times will it get going? Every time VNN builds up a strong base, Alex shoots himself in the foot and we're back to square one again, fighting an even harder uphill battle because he chased so many good WNs away. I've seen him do this three times now.

It's Linder's forum, what else is there to say about how he runs it? Those who think that they can do better, start your own forum. I’m not saying this to tell you to go piss-off, I’m just stating the obvious and telling you that this is the way it is.

The great thing about this forum, unlike SF or others, is that one is allowed to post harsh constructive criticisms as you've just written above. And by virtue of that freedom, the nuts and jews slip-in through that “uncensored loophole“. The astute WN can get it, but it is a fact, that because of this, VNN is not conducive for the orientation of the racially unaware or even the recently made aware. The smarter newbis get it after a while, and it will be the brighter folks who will ultimately become the WN leaders. VNN builds knowledgeable leaders. Those that we lose is the price that must be paid.

Having said that, I like your suggestions:

#1) I say rename OPPS "Auschwitz".

#2) Another section should be set up for those misguided fools who think those nasty A-rabs hate un for our freedom, you know, those closet Michael Weiner fans who believe the "official" 911 tripe, banish them to a “Re-education” section and if they ever get with the program, let them back.


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Posted : 29/04/2006 10:59 am
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RE: evilisgood

It's Linder's forum, what else is there to say about how he runs it? Those who think that they can do better, start your own forum. I’m not saying this to tell you to go piss-off, I’m just stating the obvious and telling you that this is the way it is.

The great thing about this forum, unlike SF or others, is that one is allowed to post harsh constructive criticisms as you've just written above. And by virtue of that freedom, the nuts and jews slip-in through that “uncensored loophole“. The astute WN can get it, but it is a fact, that because of this, VNN is not conducive for the orientation of the racially unaware or even the recently made aware. The smarter newbis get it after a while, and it will be the brighter folks who will ultimately become the WN leaders. VNN builds knowledgeable leaders. Those that we lose is the price that must be paid.

Having said that, I like your suggestions:

#1) I say rename OPPS "Auschwitz".

#2) Another section should be set up for those misguided fools who think those nasty A-rabs hate un for our freedom, you know, those closet Michael Weiner fans who believe the "official" 911 tripe, banish them to a “Re-education” section and if they ever get with the program, let them back.

I know its Linder's forum but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to improve it or speak out when he fucking it up, does it? If numbnuts Hitler would have listened to his generals on a few key occasions we wouldn't be in this mess today.
It is good that the board isn't overly censored but when the disrupters show their true colors, boot 'em before the "astute WN" gets tired of wasting his or her time confronting them and leaves. The "astute WN" doesn't come to a WN site to debate kikes and nutballs, he can do that anywhere. And newbies will only get more confused and disillusioned reading the drivel the disrupters are permitted to post here with the smarter ones simply leaving.
I don't see any evidence that VNN is building knowledgable leaders.


 
Posted : 30/04/2006 10:35 am
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