To become a knowledgeable, ergo, an effective White National leader, one must become adept and expert at handling ALL adversity that comes with occupying this position.
One can only accomplish this by doing it, not by complaining about it.
You need to take a closer look at the wide variety of White Nationals that post at VNN.
On a whole, these ones are among the sharpest blades in the drawer.
Anyone else who posts here is good education for the development of the necessary skills to become a knowledgeable and effective leader.
Is it the fault of VNN that direct opposition is basically the drivellers of ad nauseum litanies?
I hardly think so.
In truth, we love it when the opposing views show enough intelligence to give us a good and rousing debate.
We are warriors, and we love to fight.
To the extent that when there is no good foe presenting themselves to us, we have a tendency to fight with each other.
Battle practice.
And most of the battles we fight are verbal, and the weapons are knowledge and effective debate.

Another section should be set up for those misguided fools who think those nasty A-rabs hate un for our freedom, you know, those closet Michael Weiner fans who believe the "official" 911 tripe, banish them to a Re-education section and if they ever get with the program

Topics like this are interesting. And people having different opinions are a good thing since it shows that some people are able to not get sucked in and go with "group think", even if it happens to be VNN group think. The bigger problem I see with these types of debates is how people act. In this, topic, for example, if you don't believe in some vast conspiracy, you are a kike or stupid,etc. and if you do, you are a nut, or a conspiracy theorist,etc. People need to learn how to argue in a more rational and cool-headed manner.

I don't think I have ever seen anyone here talk about the Arabs hating us for our freedoms. You can even believe the official 9/11 story and know better than that.

#1) I say rename OPPS "Auschwitz".

this I like.

To become a knowledgeable, ergo, an effective White National leader, one must become adept and expert at handling ALL adversity that comes with occupying this position.
One can only accomplish this by doing it, not by complaining about it.
You need to take a closer look at the wide variety of White Nationals that post at VNN.

ALL adversity shouldn't include kikes, queers, muds and nutcases on the main forum, that's what OPPS is for. That is not to say that news stories and quotes from antis shouldn't be posted here for true WNs to discuss and debate. BTW, other than the gook AE that usually has something irrelevant or divisive to say, I haven't seen much of the other trolls lately. I would also create a watch list here for suspected antis, maybe a ? or yellow star or something could be attached to their handle until they shape up or get sent to Auschwitz. I'd put one on AE right now (better yet, banish him to Auschwitz) and keep an eye on Dr Zaius who thinks sodomizing muds with pipes is a good idea.

Topics like this are interesting. And people having different opinions are a good thing since it shows that some people are able to not get sucked in and go with "group think", even if it happens to be VNN group think. The bigger problem I see with these types of debates is how people act. In this, topic, for example, if you don't believe in some vast conspiracy, you are a kike or stupid,etc. and if you do, you are a nut, or a conspiracy theorist,etc. People need to learn how to argue in a more rational and cool-headed manner.

I don't think I have ever seen anyone here talk about the Arabs hating us for our freedoms. You can even believe the official 9/11 story and know better than that.

Believing the official 911 story is akin to believing the official holocaust story and the official "race is a social construct" story per the evidence to the contrary and the source of these fairy tales. If someone here says he's a WN but believed the official holocaust story or that race is just a social construct would you want to waste your time with that on the main forum? 911 is in the same category.

Believing the official 911 story is akin to believing the official holocaust story and the official "race is a social construct" story per the evidence to the contrary and the source of these fairy tales. If someone here says he's a WN but believed the official holocaust story or that race is just a social construct would you want to waste your time with that on the main forum? 911 is in the same category.

The holocaust or the official 911 story is pretty much irrelevant to white nationalism. Being concerned with either will not help the white race one way or the other.

The holocaust debate especially is a huge waste of time. the jews have total control over the debate to the point where no one pays much attention to revisionists anyway. The jews in reality love when this comes up since they have more evil haters that they can play victim to while they cry about "the horrors" They criminalize it not so much because they are scared of the topic(though, that is a small part) but because they want the public to view this "heresy" as some great evil or crime, like all of the other "thought crimes."

The more important thing is how they use it, like Mamoud Ahmadinejad, talks about.

ALL adversity shouldn't include kikes, queers, muds and nutcases on the main forum, that's what OPPS is for. That is not to say that news stories and quotes from antis shouldn't be posted here for true WNs to discuss and debate.

I wholeheartedly agree with this.
We also need to make a distinction between debating finer points as a means to a clearer mutual understanding, and those who are are merely being disruptive and looking to get us at each others throats. In short, those involved in serious constructive debate as opposed to disruptive trouble makers.
I think we all do a good job of calling out the troublemakers on a whole.
If a poster consistently disrupts, then by all means they should be placed elsewhere on the forum.
And I DO like the idea of Auschweiz, and a re-education forum.
We are going to have to sort these issues out sooner or later, and I am all for sooner.
As far as structuring the re-education forum, or even implementing it and changing opps to Auschweiz, I really don't know what procedure to follow, other than presenting this to Alex Linder.

The holocaust debate especially is a huge waste of time. the jews have total control over the debate to the point where no one pays much attention to revisionists anyway. The jews in reality love when this comes up since they have more evil haters that they can play victim to while they cry about "the horrors" They criminalize it not so much because they are scared of the topic(though, that is a small part) but because they want the public to view this "heresy" as some great evil or crime, like all of the other "thought crimes."

The more important thing is how they use it, like Mamoud Ahmadinejad, talks about.

I have good success using the holohoax to get people thinking, it's usually very easy to get even the most brainwashed to stumble and stammer. One question never fails: I ask them if they really believe that the Nazis made soap out of jews and, so far, not one was willing to say yes and appear ridiculous. And then it's off to the races.
Yes, the kikes definitely use the holohoax to squelch free speech and for sympathy-that's why it's important to fight it. Mamoud is doing a great job and the kikenmedia is trying hard to demonize him-another reason why we need a grass roots person-to-person effort against the holohoax ruse.

The holocaust or the official 911 story is pretty much irrelevant to white nationalism. Being concerned with either will not help the white race one way or the other.

Could you explain how you arrived at this conclusion? I'll wait for your answer to see if you become my first nomination for the re-education camp.

Could you explain how you arrived at this conclusion? I'll wait for your answer to see if you become my first nomination for the re-education camp.

Took the words right out of my mouth. The shot-full-of-holes Holohoax and 9/11 stories are absolutely critical to White nationalism. Getting the truth about these events (along with a myriad of others) and thereby exposing jewry's agenda couldn't be more paramount to the advancement of our cause. Virtually all WNs agree that it is jews and their lies, propagated through their stranglehold on the media and academia, that have us in the mess we find ourselves in today. Some people here are under the mistaken impression that it is the muds -- the violent niggers and spics we hear and read so much about especially -- unleashed on Western society that are the primary cause of our race's slow but certain demise. They are not. They are merely unwitting pawns of the jew. If it wasn't for the jew's empowerment of these fuckin' animals in the first place, they wouldn't even be here to wreak havoc on our society.

Though the #1 enemy of Whites are the race-traitor pols and corporate bigwigs who sell their souls to international jewry in exchange for the wealth and power these vermin are in a position to afford them, it is the jews themselves who are obsessed with eradicating the race through their relentless endorsing of multiculturalism and miscegenation. The bootlicker "White" sell-outs are merely in it for what they may personally gain from their traitorous activities -- they couldn't give a shit either way what the outcome of all this may be. Their immediate concern is the social advancement of themselves and their families and the here and now. The jew on the other hand is concerned with not only the material creature comforts of the world, but also with the advancement of his race and it's impending, unchallenged dominance of the West. Exposing his hand in 9/11 and getting the truth out about the greatest scam ever pulled in world history, the Holohoax, is essential to awakening the White race to jewry's machinations and their agenda, if indeed that is all possible at this point considering how well these scumbags have worked their magic on the minds of the gullible goyim these past few decades.

Re-education wouldn't help in this case. This is the line he has taken since he arrived at this forum and he hasn't caught on in over two years. He still thinks this forum is for complaining about niggers. I quit bothering to explain to him and Hitlergoddess and their ilk long ago.
Here is an infamous response to me dated 7/27/2004:

Momus

Just because HG or myself don't believe every moronic conspiracy theory that you believe doesn't make either of us a Jew or an anti.

Do you have any idea you're exalting Jews to superhuman status? Do you think that much of them? Do you have that much of an inferiority complex?

You might as well drop a knee and give a Jew some fellatio.

Could you explain how you arrived at this conclusion? I'll wait for your answer to see if you become my first nomination for the re-education camp.

Originally Posted by Jim Crowe
The holocaust or the official 911 story is pretty much irrelevant to white nationalism. Being concerned with either will not help the white race one way or the other.

9/11(as a vast conspiracy) and the holocaust(especially) are subjects that are better discussed with someone who is already somewhat awakened, but not quite there yet. These are not subjects that should be used to approach what could be called a lemming, IMO, Simply because these are not things they can immediately relate to.

but I suppose if this does work for some, then I cannot argue with your specific approach, but others might not handle these subjects as well, and that is where the problem might come in.

9/11(as a vast conspiracy) and the holocaust(especially) are subjects that are better discussed with someone who is already somewhat awakened, but not quite there yet. These are not subjects that should be used to approach what could be called a lemming, IMO, Simply because these are not things they can immediately relate to.

Wrong, dead wrong. What can pique a lemming's curiosity faster than proving to him through a quick search on the net that the Holohoax fairytale -- the #1 weapon at the jew's disposal to shut-up any criticism at all of his malignant activities in the West and the ME and get away with virtually anything he damn well pleases -- is falling apart and is in fact nothing more than a scam to elicit sympathy and extortion money from guilt-ridden White nations? This can easily be pointed out by showing him that debate-stifling Holohoax denial and trivialization laws are now in effect in ten Euro countries. Also, jewry was reluctantly forced to admit in 1989 that nowhere near four million people (the overwhelming majority jews of course) perished at Auschwitz and that at most, only one million supposedly died there and that these four million were factored in to arrive at the infamous six million figure. And yet still to this day we're told six million died at the hands of those evil Nazis.

Don't tell me these are subjects we shouldn't use to "approach what we would call lemmings." No machinations of the jews are more easily pointed out and refuted than the lies of the Holohoax -- as I said, this scam being the biggest weapon the jew employs today when questioned about his shenanigans. Why not take that weapon from his paws and turn it on him? Want to get a lemming thinking all might not be kosher with the jew? Just borrow my short, one-paragraph sig for starters. I didn't put it there because I thought it was cute or neato-looking. If that doesn't get his brainwashed ass to thinking, nothing will.

Could you explain how you arrived at this conclusion? I'll wait for your answer to see if you become my first nomination for the re-education camp.

The only folks that care about the holocaust are jews and white nationalists. Whether it occured or not so what? Bad things tend to happen in war. Time to move on.

As far a 9/11 some of crackpot conspiracy theories will attract nothing but fruit loops with a very limited worldview and knowledge of how the real world works. Some of the details, such as the motive behind al-queada are misleading however.

Think what you want, though.

The only folks that care about the holocaust are jews and white nationalists. Whether it occured or not so what? Bad things tend to happen in war. Time to move on.

As far a 9/11 some of crackpot conspiracy theories will attract nothing but fruit loops with a very limited worldview and knowledge of how the real world works. Some of the details, such as the motive behind al-queada are misleading however.

Think what you want, though.

I don't agree, I meet Whites everyday who are obsessed with the Holocaust because they've seen so many movies about it. The biggest hole in the Holocaust story is that it involves Eastern Europe which is something that not even 1% of Americans know anything about. You have to start slowly and build up to the fact that all of these "gas chambers" were "liberated" by the Soviets under the brutal regime of Joseph Stalin. The same Soviet Union that their grandparents trembled in fear from in the 1950's and 1960's.

9-11 is far more difficult because everyone saw it on TV and think that this qualifies them as being an expert on it.