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*** RICHARD WARMAN: From a flyer to the Holocaust in 5 seconds flat!

From a flyer to the Holocaust in 5 seconds!

This flyer was left on an empty chair belonging to a supporter of freedom, at the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal hearing of Richard Warman vs. Marc Lemire on January 30th, 2007.

Richard Warman response from tribunal transcripts – Page 352:

MR. WARMAN: And the second issue is the matter of Mr. Kulbashian who, I'm informed by a member of the public who was present, has been distributing these leaflets within the hearing room. I take this very seriously… I consider it to be a threat to my personal security.(!)

THE CHAIRPERSON (Hadjis): I'm not convinced, Mr. Warman, from this document that there is a risk to you.

MR. WARMAN: Mr. Hadjis, I think that ignores the clear history even if your finding is based -- that he had posted my home address, referred to me as a Jew and then -- look at all this stuff. Look at what happened to the Jews in the Holocaust … “Auswitsch.”

EDITED TRANSCRIPTS

January 30, 2007

Page 341
14 --- Resumed at 12:07 p.m.
15 MR. WARMAN: I apologize for asking
16 the hearing be resumed.
17 I'm informed of two security matters
18 I would like to address before the Tribunal.

Page 342
2 And the second issue is the matter of
3 Mr. Kulbashian who, I'm informed by a member of the
4 public who was present, has been distributing these
5 leaflets within the hearing room.
6 I take this very seriously. It is
7 clearly defamatory. I consider it to be a threat to my personal security.

Page 346
THE CHAIRPERSON: Now, what about this thing? What
3 would you like done?
4 MR. WARMAN: I would like an
5 exclusion order on the basis of security that
6 Mr. Kulbashian be excluded from these proceedings, from
7 either his presence or any, any entry within the. and
8 based on the security issue, I would ask he be - that
9 the hotel be asked that he be excluded from the
10 building.
11 Mr. Hadjis, if I may make submissions
12 on this point.
13 MR. FROMM: Exclude him from the
14 country. Deport him.
15 THE CHAIRPERSON: Mr. Fromm, please.

Page 349
MR. WARMAN: Mr. Chair, Mr. Kulbashian has a long
7 record of arrest, albeit not conviction, for racist
8 violence. Mr. Kulbashian has been found by you to have threatened me to have -- excuse me. I'll re-state that. He has been found by you to have
12 posted my home address on the Internet, to have made
13 repeated references to Holocaust victims and described me as a Jewish lawyer in the context of giving out my home address.
16 I consider that there is substantial
17 reason for me to believe, particularly in light of this latest action, that Mr. Kulbashian is a threat to my personal security.
20 I would ask that, on that basis,
21 based on the extensive history of Mr. Kulbashian's
22 actions, that he be excluded not just from this hearing room but that you ask -- you ask the hotel to -- if he returns, to issue a trespass notice against him.

Page 350
17 MR. WARMAN: Member Hadjis, I'm
18 informed that Mr. Kulbashian was placing these
19 documents on the chairs in the Tribunal hearing room.
20 THE CHAIRPERSON: That will not be permitted.

Page 352
7 THE CHAIRPERSON: I don't know if I
8 have that authority. I'm sorry, I don't know if I have that authority. I'm not convinced, Mr. Warman, from this document that there is a risk to you.
11 MR. WARMAN: Mr. Hadjis, I think that
12 ignores the clear history even if your finding is
13 based -- that he had posted my home address, referred to me as a Jew and then -- look at all this stuff.Look at what happened to the Jews in the Holocaust, Auswitsch.
17 THE CHAIRPERSON: I know.
18 MR. WARMAN: You really can't ignore
19 the safety concerns I have in relation to --
20 THE CHAIRPERSON: But do you have
21 security here with you, do you not, Mr. Warman?
22 MR. WARMAN: Security is good to the
23 point in reducing risks. I think it would be folly not
24 to recognize Mr. Kulbashian as a security risk based on
25 his history, his acknowledged history and your finding

Page 353
1 of fact in relation to the threat that he poses to me
2 and the direct attacks against me that he is engaged
3 in. I think it is --
4 THE CHAIRPERSON: I'll take it under
5 advisement, Mr. Warman.
6 What I will do is exclude
7 Mr. Kulbashian from participating -- from assisting
8 inside the hearing room because this is unacceptable.
9 This clearly undermines the evidentiary process of the
10 Tribunal. He should know better than to do that.

--- Resumed at 3:45 p.m.
Page 422
12 THE CHAIRPERSON: I'll permit you to
13 stay in the room, but you are not to disturb the
14 process in any way; also it also might be good idea for
15 you to avoid any contact with the complainant or
16 Mr. Vigna because they were quite upset about this.
24 MR. WARMAN: I think that it wholly
25 ignores the concerns that I expressed with regard to my

Page 423
1 personal security.
2 THE CHAIRPERSON: I looked into that,
3 Mr. Warman. I looked into my decision. I don't think
4 it reflects the way you present it. I did not make any
5 findings of the kind you indicated.
6 I read the material closely,
7 Mr. Warman, what was on this document. I don't see it
8 as such. It clearly relates -- it relates to
9 statements that are alleged to be linked with you that
10 were the object of a motion that took place in this
11 hearing. I know exactly the message that is behind
12 this letter. It is not this document. It is not one
13 of violence, it is one of a specific position that they
14 have adopted with regard to the merits of this case.
15 And I know exactly what's being
16 alluded. It's done in a certain inflammatory way, but
17 I don't see it as a threat to you. And, besides, all
18 the rights -- if you feel yourself threatened you have
19 all the rights available to you to act in accordance
20 with your sentiments on that.
21 From the Tribunal's perspective, my
22 concern is that a fair hearing be conducted here and I
23 don't see this -- I see the presence of these documents
24 within the hearing area as disrupting my hearing
25 process. I do not accept that they be here.


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