And tax credits for rich people who have kids? If they're not inclined to have kids, as many wealthy people in White society have been portrayed, than a TAX CREDIT isn't going to make them want to reproduce, as they can probably afford to house and feed as many kids as they feel like anyways.

A more or less stable population is best. I meant to say tax deductions, which are better than tax credits in that you actually have to earn that amount of money for it to be worthwhile. For example, if you had a $25k/child tax deduction, it would be no advantage for a walmart checker to have more than one kid, but a doctor who made $100k/year could avoid paying taxes by having 4 kids.

"Welcome to the new White paradise. NOW GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY!"

Yeah, Americans, who are used to relative economic freedom, will not accept the chains of socialism. They might be up for having partially subsidized medicine, but I highly doubt you're going to be making any major changes to the economic system. Any major shift away from economic freedom and choice in America will result in a revolution, period.

If you think YOU get pissed off about racial matters, just wait until you pull the plug on the sheeple's big screens and hummers, under the guise of better government. You'll have the proles out in the streets, armed and organized by the corporations.

Why should Whites trade a repressive system that quashes free speech (the sheep don't even care about OUR free speech anyways), goes to war over the drop of a hat, and monitors them closely financially and does everything it can to suck them dry for a government which takes just as much money, and oh BTW probably isn't too popular on the world stage due to myriad "human rights violations" due to cleaning house? YOU NEED TO OFFER THE PEOPLE A BETTER LIFE if they are to go along with this. LESS CONTROL is the only way to do this, because we've seen what happens when you promise the sheep milk and honey. They get taxed to death.

Look towards history, folks. Hitler had to get in good with big business and the Army to succeed. I don't think WN's in America will have to lick either's boots, but you're sure as hell not going to come and threaten big business and expect to be successful!

Just leave people alone. That's what America was all about when we were founded. Let people spend their money how they choose.

All this talk of big government makes me think the WN movement in America hasn't a chance in hell, even if most or ALL of Europe went over to a WN model. Essentially, you would risk setting most people who give a shit about politics that you haven't killed off during your revolution or the recovery from whatever calamity predicated it (because it's mainly radical lefties that oppose racialism anyways) against you, as well as probably a full HALF of whomever participated on your side, simply because you want to institute your Communist paradise. Really smart. If the REAL commies in this country can't do it with their tremendous resources, what makes you think you can pull off a Whites only version?

It's BIG GOVERNMENT that has fucked us, along with a softening of our people. BIG GOVERNMENT rammed "civil rights" down our throats, BIG GOVERNMENT invaded half of what was then the country in order to establish itself as a permanent force. Capitalism isn't the problem either, at least not on the supply side. It's CONSUMERISM that has killed us off. People would rather have their football and beer than give two shits about the future of their people. The only thing that will cure that is educating the children on the proper way to live, either through the families (another institution which has declined in America) or through the schools, and by eliminating the foreign influences which have given our people the idea that everything revolves around money.

I like this post a lot. We WN will give people much MORE economic freedom than they have now. We will take the best that has come from libertarian studies and combine that with racial sanity. I believe that approach is both unique and potentially thrilling.

How many White men could resist the prospect of a world without nigger and jews -- AND extremely low taxes?

Tiny government that defends the coasts, and that's it.
Keep taxes low or nonexistent, let the genius of the people flower. No equality, not even among whites. But, anybody who tries to make profits by endangering the people racially or morally (child molesting) soon dangles. Public executions of race traitors and proven deviants on PBS, with money used in ads subtracted from taxes.

This would be interesting reading or even as a discussion on a Goyfire or FTL.

Try to freely let your creative mind flow in the direction of productive progress leading towards positive change for our people.

If Alex Linder was king of the World, how would he organize his newly formed society?

Ok, Maybe not the world just yet.

How about a small emerging independant nation somewhere within the boundries of the US?

Assuming we, as perspective new citizens, wanted to know everything about this new nation that will be created, how would you sell it and attract the best of the best to be citizens of this great new nation?

Everybody here is wanting to see the party platform and they are curious about the underlying foundational priniciples and the political power structure of this new nation.

It's always good to know your history, what works and what doesn't, and sometimes it's good to free your mind and dream a little. You never know what you might come up with.

Our Ideal societal structure would be....

You fill in the blanks.

Anybody willing to give it a shot???

Our people works best when we work in freedom. That is when innovation and production soar, which is what we need. If you look back in history, you see that the economy grew much faster when taxes were 5 percent and less. The higher the taxes, the less growth. The less growth, the less wealth.

But that is what the socialists want - less wealth. Then, more people become dependent on the money they have gathered in the state coffers.

The Jews invented Marxism/socialism, the nanny state, which prevents children from reaching adulthood. The purpose is to control all, and to seduce the weak and the lazy with promises of free money.

Socialism also prevents an excuse for envy, one of the strongest forces in politics - just look at the Blacks. Most people hate those who have done better than themselves. Socialism tells people that those who have done better are evil - because the only way to do better, if all are equal, is to rob and steal and oppress.

Since we are nationalists we know that people aren't equal. So we know that the socialist logic is bullshit.

We also know that, contrary to what socialist dogma says, the amount of wealth is not a fixed sum. So that A has more money doesn't mean that B has less. A has more money because he produces more wealth through his services. Yes, you can find a thousand exceptions. But that doesn't change the fact that in the many millions of everyday cases, this is the rule.

Socialism buys votes by providing stolen money, and by providing an excuse for jealous hatred. It also provides the absence of standards, and an excuse for hating those who are stronger, smarter, or more beautiful. Socialism was designed by the Jews as a means to overthrow, by using the low gentiles against the high gentiles.

That has proven increasingly difficult however, and actually it only worked really well in Russia. Even though the Jews can cause much unnecessary strife, socialism did not give them all the power in the West. So they need to import muds - the same strategy, free money and an excuse for jealous hatred, works three times as well with muds. It has always been the socialist parties that advocated mass immigration, with the conservative parties resisting but failing, until they were taken over by leftist dogma by way of the media.

And yet, some nationalists today were socialists first, and want to retain their hatred for those who have studied harder and worked harder. So they now lie about history and say it was the right, not the left, that wanted mass immigration, to provide cheap labor. As if you couldn't simply move factories abroad. This lie works only when young nationalists have no knowledge of what has happened before their time, and no interest to learn.

Tiny government that defends the coasts, and that's it. Government sucks at everything else. Unfortunately, whites are so sheeplish that even with a WN government, the tendency of the rulers will be to expand their power by shearing sheep. But that's a problem that is insoluble, each generation much fight govt's natural expansion. Our problem is to get rid of racial enemies so that they can never again threaten us.

What we see here is economic ignorance on the part of posters who have never run a businness and think that price and economic laws are whims that can be changed, or that all socialism needs is the right people to make it work. Nope, doesn't work like that.

Keep taxes low or nonexistent, let the genius of the people flower. Let people reap the rewards of their brilliance. The morons can shut up and enjoy the usufructs. No equality, not even among whites. But, anybody who tries to make profits by endangering the people racially or morally (child molesting) soon dangles. Public executions of race traitors and proven deviants on PBS, with money used in ads subtracted from taxes.

This is a nice program to shoot for but I bet it'll be easier said than done. In the first place, revolutions don't happen peacefully. At least not when you're wresting control from millions of enemy aliens. Once that problem is solved you can set up your small government system, but don't forget that where's there's more freedom for the citizen there's also more room for corruption - from the bottom up, instead of from the top down down, as is the case in the alternative system. Americans, of all people, should know that by now.

Tiny government that defends the coasts, and that's it. Government sucks at everything else. Unfortunately, whites are so sheeplish that even with a WN government, the tendency of the rulers will be to expand their power by shearing sheep. But that's a problem that is insoluble, each generation much fight govt's natural expansion. Our problem is to get rid of racial enemies so that they can never again threaten us.

What we see here is economic ignorance on the part of posters who have never run a businness and think that price and economic laws are whims that can be changed, or that all socialism needs is the right people to make it work. Nope, doesn't work like that.

Keep taxes low or nonexistent, let the genius of the people flower. Let people reap the rewards of their brilliance. The morons can shut up and enjoy the usufructs. No equality, not even among whites. But, anybody who tries to make profits by endangering the people racially or morally (child molesting) soon dangles. Public executions of race traitors and proven deviants on PBS, with money used in ads subtracted from taxes.

I totally agree with this. This is what would make our people stronger mentally and all around a better people.

I believe the antis are pushing up the socialist bar. Whoda thunk it?

I believe the antis are pushing up the socialist bar. Whoda thunk it?

I think the government should control and operate all things dealing with natural resources along with all the necessary social systems such as roads, power, communications, ect. They should also play in all major industries like machine tools, heavy equipment, autos, housing, and insurance, meaning they run each one like a nonprofit business. All the government systems should be required to operate financially independent of each other or the general and military fund. Private companies should be allowed to compete with the government under the same rules although no one would ever try because the capitalists need to sell a $600 dollar Toyota corolla for $15,000 and a white socialist government would only require $600. It would be interesting to see the two economic systems compete under the same white government.

Take a government housing development that holds 100 five-bedroom units and costs at today’s dollars $5,000,000 (the government building crews are a little cheaper without the "flower" at the top adding 100% over cost not to mention all the little blooms under him). Charge $250 a month and the whole thing is paid for in 20 years. As time goes on and more communities are paid for the national price would drop even further, possibly to even a $100 a month. Capitalist couldn't compete with that on large scale. Apply this to every other industry and the capitalists don't stand a chance.

I will say the government should stay out of some industries all together for instance agriculture and medicine.

First devolve then worry about what the politics should be.

Whites never had mass societies when they had their own way. Whites are social animals, but more likely to create wolfpacks, not anthills.

The Great Lakes region should have around 8-12 natural nations on her shores. That's only the ones I count having spent lots of time hiking the area over lots of years. There might be more than 12. And I'm only assuming White Nations here.

If Wisconsin Finns and Swedes want a variation of the co-op socialism they know from the old countries, fine. They're where that sort of thing makes practical sense anyway, above the snow line. If the Germans and Italians in Ohio and Indiana want to keep their machine politics mixed with half-assed anarchism, they probably will. I'd re-name an independent Indiana "John Dillinger Land" just to keep the assholes out, if I lived there, which I don't.

What I'm trying to say is mass society is bullshit, bad for whites, and devolving to organic and human-sized countries would be best for all of us. I know I'm cribbing some of this from that old Robinson book, The Ethnostate, but what the hell. He was right.

Disunite first. Then make strong alliances to keep shit like the Union from ever happening again. Then (third and last) worry about what flavor of politics you fancy.

Governments exist to ASSIST it's citizens in being SAFE and PROSPEROUS. America is loosing the economic war because of the simple fact the corporations don't give a fuck about you or me. To resolve this you have to FORCE corporations thru tariffs, and penalties and hit them where it hurts, their wallet. For example, you got a company that says, "you know we'll save 30% on labor by exporting the work to China", the government says, "that's fine, but we're going to charge you 50% in penalties to bring it back in". It FORCES them to work with the society that they exist.

I think the best would be socialized capitalism, the best of both worlds in my opinion, I don't know if it exists or if it's possible, but hey. we're white people we make lemonaide from lemons... :cheers:

For those Libertarian free traders, ultra-capitalist toadies and social Darwinists here is some news to warm the cockles of your cold, cold hearts.

Whirlpool To Sell Hoover For $107 Million

December 9, 2006 12:54 p.m. EST

Josephine Roque - All Headline News Staff Writer

Grand Rapids, Michigan (AHN) - Appliance maker Whirlpool is set to sell its Hoover vacuum brand for $107 million to a Hong Kong-based home improvement and construction tools supplier company.

Techtronic Industries (TTNDY) chairman and CEO, [highlight]Horst J. Pudwill [an Aryan figure head or a made-up name of some chink][/highlight], called Hoover "one of the most recognized brands in the world" and a welcome addition to its floor-care portfolio that includes Dirt Devil, Regina and Royal.

The two companies said it would formalize the deal during the first quarter of next year after regulatory clearance.

"The decision to divest the floor-care business allows us to focus on our core appliance business," said Jeff M. Fettig [Jew?], Whirlpool's chairman and chief executive.

Whirlpool handles the Maytag, KitchenAid and Jenn-Air brands in its portfolio, among others.

Techtronic will take control of Hoover while Whirlpool will maintain the pension and post-retirement benefit liabilities for retired Hoover employees.

"The addition of Hoover to our existing Royal Appliance and Vax floor care businesses will strengthen our market presence globally, by diversifying our customer base, expanding our product offering and adding scale to our operations," said Pudwill.

Techtronic also has Milwaukee and AEG power tools under its roster.

END

When Whirlpool bought Maytag, they laid off thousands of US workers and sent production down to Mexico. Previously, Whirlpool shut down its own refrigerator plant in Benton Harbor, Michigan and sent thousands of jobs down to Mexico. Hoover has about 750 employees in Canton, Ohio. How long before their jobs are shipped to chinkland?

I believe the antis are pushing up the socialist bar. Whoda thunk it?

Or the National Socialists. Individuals exist for the community, and not the other way around. Socialism is a just economical system, but only if it's on a national-racial basis. As we could see, it didn't work the other way.

Tiny government that defends the coasts, and that's it. Government sucks at everything else. Unfortunately, whites are so sheeplish that even with a WN government, the tendency of the rulers will be to expand their power by shearing sheep. But that's a problem that is insoluble, each generation much fight govt's natural expansion. Our problem is to get rid of racial enemies so that they can never again threaten us.

What we see here is economic ignorance on the part of posters who have never run a businness and think that price and economic laws are whims that can be changed, or that all socialism needs is the right people to make it work. Nope, doesn't work like that.

Keep taxes low or nonexistent, let the genius of the people flower. Let people reap the rewards of their brilliance. The morons can shut up and enjoy the usufructs. No equality, not even among whites. But, anybody who tries to make profits by endangering the people racially or morally (child molesting) soon dangles. Public executions of race traitors and proven deviants on PBS, with money used in ads subtracted from taxes.

“Tiny government that defends the coasts, and that's it. Government sucks at everything else.”

I don’t know]