Grocer, I did not engage in ad hominems, and I would appreciate the same courtesy.

I am open to fair and objective debate on the subject]

I didn't take is serious, I took it for what it is. The same as I took your opinions on the thread about "Aryans." with a chuckle.

Hail Jeboo!

 

I didn't take is serious, I took it for what it is. The same as I took your opinions on the thread about "Aryans." with a chuckle.

Understood.

Your earnestness is impressive, my southern brother.

Understood.

Your earnestness is impressive, my southern brother.

Gotcha mate. I just am under the belief that you "Aryans" shouldn't take credit for the greatness of civilizations like the Romans and Greeks under the cloak of Aryanism, and then call their descendants half caste muds and niggers. One of my grandmothers was from Lithuania, I don't claim myself to be a descendent of some of the great things the USSR did, because I have blood lineage from that civilization. I don't go around blaming you "Aryans" for the cesspits you have given us in the USA, Canada, UK, and other parts of Western Europe. I don't call you "Aryans" niggers lovers because you mix with Turks, Native Americans, Niggers, Mexicans, and other types of mud because your offspring do today. To each is his own.

Gotcha mate. I just am under the belief that you "Aryans" shouldn't take credit for the greatness of civilizations like the Romans and Greeks under the cloak of Aryanism, and then call their descendants half caste muds and niggers. One of my grandmothers was from Lithuania, I don't claim myself to be a descendent of some of the great things the USSR did, because I have blood lineage from that civilization. I don't go around blaming you "Aryans" for the cesspits you have given us in the USA, Canada, UK, and other parts of Western Europe. I don't call you "Aryans" niggers lovers because you mix with Turks, Native Americans, Niggers, Mexicans, and other types of mud because your offspring do today. To each is his own.

I am afraid I don't quite understand what you mean.

Everyone here would agree that Indians are non-European, despite the Aryan history of that nation. Demographics change everything, as all White Nationalists realise only too well. I am not saying that Italy is a non-white nation, but there certainly is a significant amount of non-European admixture in the south, and you can't refuse to acknowledge facts simply because they are unpleasant.

The ancient Roman and Greek civilisations, at their height, were certainly Aryan by any definition. And if by Aryan you mean Nordic, in particular, I would argue that the original Patrician stock of Rome, and almost all of the Emperors (up to Commodus) were of Nordic appearance. There is also a lot of evidence to substantiate the notion of a Nordic ruling elite in Hellas. Here is a good site on the subject:

http://www.white-history.com/earlson/

. I am not saying that Italy is a non-white nation, but there certainly is a significant amount of non-European admixture in the south

The truth the mongrel 'pan aryan' nord hunters refuse to acknowledge. Rather than employ eugenics programs to reduce the admixture, they would rather arm-twist purer whites into accepting them as white. As a result, I only accept 'Italians', 'Greeks', and 'Russians' on a case-by-case basis.

I am afraid I don't quite understand what you mean.

Everyone here would agree that Indians are non-European, despite the Aryan history of that nation. Demographics change everything, as all White Nationalists realise only too well. I am not saying that Italy is a non-white nation, but there certainly is a significant amount of non-European admixture in the south, and you can't refuse to acknowledge facts simply because they are unpleasant.

The ancient Roman and Greek civilisations, at their height, were certainly Aryan by any definition. And if by Aryan you mean Nordic, in particular, I would argue that the original Patrician stock of Rome, and almost all of the Emperors (up to Commodus) were of Nordic appearance. There is also a lot of evidence to substantiate the notion of a Nordic ruling elite in Hellas. Here is a good site on the subject:

http://www.white-history.com/earlson/

I am not going to surf around the net and waste my time trying to debunk the bullshit from white-history.com. nor do I care to. The ancient Romans and Greeks were not Aryans, and not Germanic, whatever that means. Aryans are nothing more than a fairy tale. If anyone are Aryans they are the shit skins of present day Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India. There are parts of Southern Europe that have non White elements, as do parts of Northern Europe. Places like Greece, Serbia, Sicily, parts of Spain, Romania, Albania, and a few others have even in recent times been subjected to non White rule, but Calabaria has not. Germans and other European Aryans you claim shot their wad in a short in a few hundred year period. In a thousand years people will still be talking of the great Roman and Greek civilizations, and nothing of what you "Aryans," who have brought us the likes of MTV, multiculturalism, Hollywood, tolerance, gay pride marches, and the other decadent shit you have heaped on our White dinner tables. Two hundred years ago you "Aryan" males couldn't keep your cocks out of niggress slave women, now your Aryan can't keep nigger buck cocks out of them. I put "Aryans" in the same category as Moslems, Jews, and Christians, a bunch of children whose reality is nothing but a concotion of metaphysical bullshit and mental retardation. I can't even believe I'm wasting time with a grown adult who considers themself an "Aryan," it is as ridiculous as having a theological debate with a Christian, Jew, or Moslem.

The truth the mongrel 'pan aryan' nord hunters refuse to acknowledge. Rather than employ eugenics programs to reduce the admixture, they would rather arm-twist purer whites into accepting them as white. As a result, I only accept 'Italians', 'Greeks', and 'Russians' on a case-by-case basis.

Your people are the biggest race mixers going. Half your women in London are fucking a nigger, Paki, Bengali, or some other sort of shit skin. Look what your kin created in the US, a multicult cesspit. The only people low enough to fuck their own slave are your kind and Arabs. For the sake of some higher power, your women even make vacations JUST to fuck nigger beast in Africa. That takes a lot of effort, like getting a visa, using a credit card to purchase an airplane ticket, trip to the DOC to get immunized for third world diseases. Fuck you and your multicult! You even gave niggers equal rights to Whites in the US!

The truth the mongrel 'pan aryan' nord hunters refuse to acknowledge. Rather than employ eugenics programs to reduce the admixture, they would rather arm-twist purer whites into accepting them as white. As a result, I only accept 'Italians', 'Greeks', and 'Russians' on a case-by-case basis.

I don't subscribe to "Pan Aryanism." I have no interest in associating myself with a hodge podge of muds and mental defects, if so it would be easier to classify myself as an American, or some other other Anglo-Saxon induced label.

I am not going to surf around the net and waste my time trying to debunk the bullshit from white-history.com. nor do I care to.

What you're really saying is, you don't have the intellect, education, or discipline to debate the subject. Despite my attempts to retain a civil tone and an objective focus, you have repeatedly expressed an unwillingness to debate the merits of my arguments, and you have persisted with non sequiturs. You, sir, demonstrate almost each of the negative characteristics attributed to Mediterranean man by Dr. Günther:

"The Mediterranean race is painted by all observers as passionate and excitable. It has less depth of mind and is easily aroused, and easily reconciled]esprit gaulois shows a great deal of this), and sex is the object of his passionateness, of his feeling for colour schemes in dress, and of his quick rather than deep artistic gifts. A disposition to cruelty and animal torture, a not uncommon inclination to Sadism, may perhaps stand in relation to the stronger sexuality...In public life the Mediterranean man shows but a slight sense of order and law, and a want of forethought. He is quickly roused to opposition, and is ever wishing for change; the south of France, predominantly Mediterranean, eagerly votes 'radical.' Mediterranean ferment (il voit rouge) stands opposed to Nordic restraint in social life also. Thus there is a tendency to lawless conditions...The predominantly Mediterranean south of Italy (with Sicily and Sardinia) is characterised by a higher percentage of deeds of violence and murder; and Niceforo significantly calls a district in Sardinia, where the Mediterranean element is markedly predominant, the criminal district (zona delinquente)." (Racial elements of European History, p. 56)

What you're really saying is, you don't have the intellect, education, or discipline to debate the subject. Despite my attempts to retain a civil tone and an objective focus, you have repeatedly expressed an unwillingness to debate the merits of my arguments, and you have persisted with non sequiturs. You, sir, demonstrate almost each of the negative characteristics attributed to Mediterranean man by Dr. Günther:

"The Mediterranean race is painted by all observers as passionate and excitable. It has less depth of mind and is easily aroused, and easily reconciled]esprit gaulois shows a great deal of this), and sex is the object of his passionateness, of his feeling for colour schemes in dress, and of his quick rather than deep artistic gifts. A disposition to cruelty and animal torture, a not uncommon inclination to Sadism, may perhaps stand in relation to the stronger sexuality...In public life the Mediterranean man shows but a slight sense of order and law, and a want of forethought. He is quickly roused to opposition, and is ever wishing for change; the south of France, predominantly Mediterranean, eagerly votes 'radical.' Mediterranean ferment (il voit rouge) stands opposed to Nordic restraint in social life also. Thus there is a tendency to lawless conditions...The predominantly Mediterranean south of Italy (with Sicily and Sardinia) is characterised by a higher percentage of deeds of violence and murder; and Niceforo significantly calls a district in Sardinia, where the Mediterranean element is markedly predominant, the criminal district (zona delinquente)." (Racial elements of European History, p. 56)

Well, I'm not Mediterranean. I happen to be a White American of Italian and Lithuanian ancestry. What you are doing is not debating, you are copying and pasting bits and pieces of articles and books from Internet sources. You are the one making absurd claims such as the ancient Romans and Greeks were Nordic, Aryan, or whatever else you are claiming. When in fact they were Romans and Greeks. In all reality they probably would have considered you Nordic/Aryans to be barbarians, not that even means anything in today's world. I also disagreed with your "Southern Italian" claims, as Italy has only recently became a nation. Romans are Romans, Calabrians are Calabrese, and Sicilians are Sicilians, they are different people, who now happen to be one nation. Even the last copy and paste piece of propaganda you posted claims Sicily and Sardinia as south of Italy. One day soon your balls will drop, you will starting sprouting hair on your face, your voice will get deeper, this will mean you are growing up and becomg a man, and then you will see how stupid your "Aryan" and Nordist bullshit really is. Until then have, an excellent and prosperous life. :cheers:

What you are doing is not debating, you are copying and pasting bits and pieces of articles and books from Internet sources.

Obviously you don't understand the nature of a debate. If the premises of my argument (that the Southern European populations contain a significantly greater degree of non-European admixture in comparison to Northern Europeans, as demonstrated through mtDNA and Y chromosome research) are true, then my conclusion (regarding a hierarchy of relatedness among Europeans and the necessity of corrective Eugenics) is necessarily valid within the framework of a National-Socialist world-view. You have failed to disprove said premises, for which I have provided ample academic citation, because you are incapable of doing so. Seeing that you are an American of both (ladoganised?) Slavic and (dinaricised?) Mediterranean blood, it is little surprise that you should display an equal dearth of both acumen and vigor.

You are right about one thing: there is no need to continue this thread.

Obviously you don't understand the nature of a debate. If the premises of my argument (that the Southern European populations contain a significantly greater degree of non-European admixture in comparison to Northern Europeans, as demonstrated through mtDNA and Y chromosome research) are true, then my conclusion (regarding a hierarchy of relatedness among Europeans and the necessity of corrective Eugenics) is necessarily valid within the framework of a National-Socialist world-view. You have failed to disprove said premises, for which I have provided ample academic citation, because you are incapable of doing so. Seeing that you are an American of both (ladoganised?) Slavic and (dinaricised?) Mediterranean blood, it is little surprise that you should display an equal dearth of both acumen and vigor.

You are right about one thing: there is no need to continue this thread.

You can type big words I see. I don't care about mtDNA or Y chromosomes, all you can do is repeat these findings from a scientist. You cannot define or explain them in your own words, meaning a debate. Now why don't you share your ethnicity, and nationality? It is obvious you are a native English speaker. I really don't care about National Socialism, I'm not National Socialist. I didn't expect a realistic or intelligent debate from you, being you're an "Aryan. " Before you get bored with your Aryan persona, you should realize that Germans are NOT Aryans. Adios, this non Aryan is gone to bed.

italy is an amazing nation. every region you travel is a completely different affair. the italians from the south as the RULE not the exception are viry mixed. their behaviors mindsets and ideals all reflect this. HOWEVER, places such as reggio calabria and others were very minimally effected by this.

the northern italians (defined as anything above roma) are very different. the italians are something to reckon with as INDIVIDUALS. they as a nation are poor. and that is because of renaissance petrarch and the humanists. and so forth. ITALYS unification was more geographic than racial.

they are better off as city states other than anything else.

i am very fond of germans. but to claim that all italians have arabic blood or even half the population is ludicrous at best.

The Grocer,

I have just looked through your last 30 posts or so and you have insulted at least four or five different posters and most of those were unprovoked. Here for example, you are calling one of our most well informed new users immature. Well, if that isnt the pot calling the kettle black I dont know what is.

You're banned for a week for flaming. When you come back, please consider whether or not it is a good idea to run around insulting everyone with which you have an argument.

Your people are the biggest race mixers going. Half your women in London are fucking a nigger, Paki, Bengali, or some other sort of shit skin. Look what your kin created in the US, a multicult cesspit. The only people low enough to fuck their own slave are your kind and Arabs. For the sake of some higher power, your women even make vacations JUST to fuck nigger beast in Africa. That takes a lot of effort, like getting a visa, using a credit card to purchase an airplane ticket, trip to the DOC to get immunized for third world diseases. Fuck you and your multicult! You even gave niggers equal rights to Whites in the US!

I didnt give anyone anything. The race-mixing rate in Great Britain is among the lowest in the western world at, .04 per cent, per bbc statistics. As far as giving blacks rights in the u.s. that isnt true at all, as with the reversal of immigration policy, it was not voted on, and against the will of the people. Contrary to your claim, British colonies, unlike those of spain and portugal were founded as implicit racial states. Your post demonstrates poor logic, and contains several unsubstantiated claims that amount again to little more than ad hominem attacks. Your post is nothing more than a contrived attempt to attack me and massage your newly found inferiority complex.