24 August, 2008

Missile Defense: Understanding the Issues

Posted by Socrates in globalization, Jew World Order, jewed foreign policy, nation-building/nation-wrecking, Neocons, New World Order, Socrates, tikkun olam at 5:52 pm | Permanent Link

Notice the mention of “globalist democratization” and “full spectrum dominance,” about 3/4 down the page:

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  7. 17 Responses to “Missile Defense: Understanding the Issues”

    1. Heinrich Himmler Jr. Says:

      A very good article, including the quote from Agatha Christie. But let’s not mince words. The Russians have refused to let billionaire Jew “oligarchs” take control of Russia’s vast wealth and resources. The billionaire Jew gangster Khordokovsky is rotting in a Russian prison, where he belongs. The Russians will not let their country be controlled by NATO or the EU, either. Therefore, Russia is considered a “rogue” nation and Washington will try to surround it with hostile puppet states and drag Russia back into the Boris Yeltsin era of submission and humiliation. But it’s not going to happen.

    2. Stronza Says:

      Speaking of missile defense, you might find this interesting.

      http://www.straight.com/article-159113/gwynne-dyer-missile-defence-scam

    3. Arch Stanton Says:

      “Despite the practical ineffectiveness of missile defense systems so far (as highlighted by Monbiot in the above article), the existence of such systems gives politicians and military leaders the possibility of thinking they might survive a nuclear war.”

      Don’t make me laugh. They’ve been nuking the US and the planet since 1945 and we’re still around like nothing ever happened. In fact there are more humans on the planet now than any other point in history. Obviously the horror of nuclear conflagration and fallout is more fallacy than substance as proven by the long term testing. If nuclear testing proved one thing conclusively, it’s that those not directly vaporized by the blast have an excellent chance of survival. Considering the current state of Nagasaki and Hiroshima and the fact that the elite have advanced underground accommodations approaching the size of minor cites anyone who thinks the idea of MAD is any kind of deterrent to a nuclear conflagration is either completely mad or just plain stupid.

      Then there is this thought, The Manhattan project cost almost two billion at a time when the word billion hardly existed in the common lexicon. Considering the monstrous costs of other wartime expenditures and considering the US had been in a “great depression” just five years prior, where did the money come from to fund the project? Then there is the interesting fact that during the development of the atomic bomb a large contingent of the scientist working on project speculated that there was a fifty-fifty chance the atomic explosion would bring about a chain reaction that would consume the atmosphere of planet, incinerating the earth in the process. I well remember seeing this scenario presented in the 1960’s movie, “Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.” At the time I thought it was nothing more than rather bizarre science fiction fantasy. I never even considered the possibility that it was once thought not only possible, but likely to happen.

      At that point in atomic development it was felt such an outcome to the test was a very real possibility, so who was responsible for rolling that particular pair of cosmic dice? Who might have had the power and background to give the go ahead for the project’s development and a green light to the first test (Trinity)? What mind, or more precisely what kind of mind, could have been presented with such facts and then said, “So you’re saying there is a fifty-fifty chance the entire planet might be incinerated or on the other hand we might gain the power of God? It’s a hard choice, but we think, it’s worth it.” Could this decision have come from a new president who had been in office only three months and who received no briefing on the development of the atomic bomb or might there be some greater power that made that decision? Perhaps it was someone who had two billion dollars to fund weapons development? At this point it might be instructive to review Madeline Albright’s words about the murder of 500,000 Iraqi children.

    4. zoomcopter Says:

      Some of our best officers are leaving the military and the enlistment standards for joining are plummeting as well. Multi-cultural diversity is taking its toll, as well. As the quality of our military drops, more thought will be given to nuclear options as there simply are not enough “boots” to put on the ground anywhere. We are overextended in Iraq and Afganistan, with no end in sight. When countries such as Russia realize that we are attempting to surround them with early warning radar systems and anti-ballistic missile systems, they will respond in kind. If they cannot neutralize our missile systems, they will revert to asymmetrical warfare, such as portable nukes, which could be placed anywhere in America. Short of surrendering to Jewish Neo-Cons, who currently pull all the strings in Washington, they have no other choices. The Jews want to dominate the Middle East, including the pipelines passing through Georgia. The cost in human life is irrelevant to them, as long as it is Goyim blood. If they can get White Russians to slaughter White Americans, it will be a repeat performance of WWII, where White Americans, along with White Brits beat down their Germanic brothers into Jewish submission. As Patrick Buchanan explains in his latest book, WWII was unnecessary and a huge tragic loss to the Aryan world from which we haven’t recovered. Are we to allow Jewish Neo-Cons to watch us deliver the death blow to each other? Those who cannot learn from the past, are doomed to repeat it. McCain is already falling into line behind his Jewish advisors, ready to “punish” Russia for defending Ossetia. The writing is on the wall.

    5. Heinrich Himmler Jr. Says:

      The Jews are still mad the war in Europe ended before they had a chance to drop a few A-bombs on Germany. And Arch S. is right about all the above-ground A-bomb and H-bomb testing that went on all over the world from the 1940s-70s. Didn’t exactly wipe out the human race, did it? In fact, Las Vegas and other places that were located near the bomb sites are thriving like mad. Even Chernobyl is back to normal. So all this scare-mongering about atomic radiation, WMDs, dirty bombs and suitcase bombs is a lot of rubbish designed to scare the public into submission and justify more war spending.

    6. zoomcopter Says:

      Chernobyl is still a no-go area. There was a huge scandal in Ukraine last Christmas because some local boys were selling fir trees cut from the Chernobyl forests which are rapidly taking back the land. Turns out the Christmas trees were still highly radioactive. Think of your children sitting around a radioactive Christmas tree. Anyone saying radioactivity doesn’t disrupt human DNA is a moron and should be punished by having their gonads X-rayed for an hour.

    7. ein Says:

      “Some of our best officers are leaving the military and enlistment standards for joining are plummeting. Multi-cultural diversity is taking its toll. As the quality of our military drops, more thought will be given to nuclear options as there simply are not enough “boots” to put on the ground

      They may be anticipating that. From articles I’ve been seeing lately, they are looking to develop robot soldiers, and all sorts of robots (planes, cameras, etc), some even as small as insects, to use for future wars.

    8. zoomcopter Says:

      I have seen some nasty-looking flying roaches in Houston. They can fly about the room and always seem to land on your neck, just under your shirt collar. Scientists have said that roaches will be able to survive a nuclear winter, as well. Such a deal, it is, indestructable radioactive flying insect drones! Stomp one and a hundred more come out of the woodwork.

    9. Olde_Dutch Says:

      Anyone saying radioactivity doesn’t disrupt human DNA is a moron…

      Alex, should clean up the front page too—no more monikers like Heinrich Himmler Jr. LOL.

      Btw, coal byproduct sludges are highly toxic and incredibly corrosive. They will eat through stainless steel! But, radioactivity is forever, and coal byproducts can be contained & neutralized.

    10. Heinrich Himmler Jr. Says:

      No one is saying radiation doesn’t affect DNA, for god’s sake. But it’s a fact that the radiation eventually disintegrates and Nature resumes its course. Why are you right-wingers always trying to perpetuate the irrational fear-mongering about nuclear power? Watching too many old Godzilla movies? Houses built on old chemical dumps are at least as dangerous as radiation, but chemical dumps aren’t as “sexy” as atomic radiation, I guess.

      And what’s wrong with Heinrich Himmler Jr., Olde Dutch? should I have a moniker like yours, one that sounds like a brand of butter cookie or a pancake house?? Jerk.

    11. S.D. Says:

      Olde Dutch…butter cookies? I always think of cigars or beer.

    12. Stronza Says:

      “…the neocons, for example, were intellectual renegades against Stalinism and the Western Marxists were inspired by a strain of “Marxist” theory completely different from Leninism.”

      Yup, perpetual war paid for with $$$ extorted from US taxpayers, the river of filth & liberalism, the destruction of our traditional identities – that’s real different, and way better than Stalinism. Oh, God, I am so relieved!

    13. gw Says:

      that’s the “narrative” they grew up with: Reds, nuclear meltdown, hiding under your desk at school, etc. My mother told me that as a child in rural Maine she would hide under her bed at night in fear of “the Russians”.
      **********************
      Exactly. Just as a generation before them lived in fear of “the Germans”.

      In the ’40s, naughty boys and girls were scolded that if they weren’t good, “the Germans” would come and get them during the night. That was enough to scare the dickens out of anyone. (Don’t ask me how I know.)

      I still remember the comic books of that era which always portrayed Germans as madmen and sadists with fangs. Always nordic blonds, of course, and with names like Ivan Shark … always conniving and conspiring to get control over the other races and destroy the world. (Could that be that what psychologists call projection? Hmmm.)

    14. Olde_Dutch Says:

      Anyone who has taken either physics or chemistry in college has some idea of the risks involved with radioactive materials. High school as I remember it tended to gloss over the risks. That’s like glossing over jewish communism. LOL.

      Funny how the jews are responsible for the nuclear mess too. LOL.

    15. Socrates Says:

      zwei Says: “In that respect it’s related to the WN/conservative bogey of “Communism” or “Judeo-Bolshevism”. There’s no reason in the world to keep these specters alive, it doesn’t serve to attract new listeners, but sure enough they are because the “old-timers” fear “Communism” and Linder reads Solzhenitsyn so everyone must fear the “Communists” and the “Judeo-Bolsheviks” despite the abundantly verifiable fact that the neocons, for example, were intellectual renegades against Stalinism and the Western Marxists were inspired by a strain of “Marxist” theory completely different from Leninism. On these points the old guard WNs, Linder, like-minded Burkean patriotards, and paleocons all come together in intellectual retardation. “

      What? More subtle trolling? “anti,” “yeeuh,” “laughing,” is that you, with a brand new IP and screenname, coming back for more “fun”?

      What do you mean by “intellectual retardation”? Old-guard WNs are backwards dolts, eh? I’m sure Linder knows that Stalinism was not Leninism or Trotskyism. I’ve mentioned that myself, for example, here:

      http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/?p=2681

      Also, the “Red Scare” was indeed very real, i.e., there were lots of communists in the U.S. government, e.g., Harry Dexter White.

      As for New America posting on the blog: heh, that’s up to Linder, but I’m sure N.A. would have to change his attitude about Strom first.

    16. Zarathustra Says:

      Zwei is absolutely SPOT ON when he (I presume Zwei is a male……..honestly, women usually don’t fret over anything beyond the kitchen or the nursery) writes about paleocons, intellectual retardation and the old “Red Scare” types……We have got to get past that 1950s-era fallout shelter mentality.

      Zwei also makes a valid point about my old moniker, “Heinrich Himmler Jr.” Actually, Herr Himmler was way too nice to the Jews. I am not a Nazi “worshipper” but I guess I was conveying that impression?

      ALSO SPRACH ZARATHUSTRA.

    17. ein Says:

      I like Zarathustra. It’s good. Too bad you thought of it first!
      A lot of spelling though; I’ll just stick with something simple.