4 July, 2009

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“Well, in larger part, the System has declared total war on the Race that makes Civilization possible, and the Values they used to make Western Civilization synonymous with the term Civilization.” — VNN, Reader Comments section.


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    1. Kuda Bux Says:

      The far-right tail of the White bell curve is at war with all the rest.

    2. Banned Says:

      He he he.

      But it’s the middle part of the bell curve (i.e. the working class) that sets the long term agenda for the rest of the group.

      Without the average 100 IQ the White race has, which creates a realitivly stable and creative society, the high IQ achievers are left high and dry.

      There are high IQ blacks, but because the MAJORITY of blacks are low IQ and predisposed to violent behaviour those high IQ blacks can never realize their potential.

      Unless they have access to White society that is.

      But, granting them that, ultimately destroys White society.

    3. Howdy Doody Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpEdJ_tlX2A&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Evnnforum%2Ecom%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D96717&feature=player_embedded

    4. Adam Says:

      I’m not sure what to make of what New America has told us so far. It’s seems he endorses some version of Harold Covington’s PNW migration, and building a “new Christian man” – but not via a mass movement. How he proposes to bring these things about is a mystery, at least to me. Also, I wonder if he really believes (and wants everyone else to believe) in this type of Christianity, or whether he regards Christianity as merely a technique for manipulating large groups of people. The latter it has done very well for generations. But not everyone has the knack for believing in Jeboo, or accepting that people can rise from the dead.

      In any case, although there is a superficial similarity in our terminology, New America means something very different than I do when he refers to “the System”. And the project of reforming human nature is an old one, tried initially by the Nazis, and then by the Soviets, and now – and this is what New America perceives as a “war” – by the technological system as it has been refined, jewed, and distilled in America and Europe. Maybe it will help to review these efforts:

      New Aryan Man — Aryan man believed in loyalty, honor, objective reality, and eugenics. He believed in race struggle as the determining factor of human history, and he believed in the superior intelligence and strength of Aryan man vis à vis the other races. The New Aryan Man was to be a product of selective breeding. While believing the same things as Aryan Man, New Aryan Man would be even more intelligent, more honorable, and more willing to sacrifice himself for the good of race and nation than the Aryan man of Germany in the 1930’s. The project of producing the New Aryan Man was, then, in essence, the task of re-setting the norm for German citizenry, improving it both physically and mentally. Physical and mental infirmities were also to be eradicated through eugenic measures. New Aryan Man was to be strongly racist, sexist, atheist, and nationalist.

      New Soviet Man — New Soviet Man believed in the primacy of Marxism-Leninism, and class struggle, as opposed to race struggle. He disbelieved in genetics, eugenics, the existence of such a thing as “human nature”, objective reality, and race, believing these ideas merely to be outmoded and oppressive constructs of the ruling class. He was to work tirelessly with selfless dedication for the triumph of the proletarian over the bourgeois and capitalist. New Soviet Man was to be strongly anti-racist, anti-sexist, atheist, and international communist.

      New American Man — “New American Man” is somewhat of an oxymoron, in that he believes in the absolute equality of the races and the sexes. He is, therefore, not so much the New American Man as the New American Person. Nor is this the only contradiction contained within the New American Person. For example, it neither believes nor disbelieves in objective reality. It is capable of changing its opinion on this question immediately, even within the same thought, as when touting the advantages of racial mixing as conducive to “hybrid vigor”, while at the same time insisting that race does not objectively exist. Hypocritically, New American Person believes that all cultures are of equal worth, but only so long as their foundational principles do not conflict with western principles of freedom, equality, and democracy. New American Person considers itself the only true expression of the American idea, yet is a globalist who believes nationalism is outmoded (except in the case of Israel), is sexually neither strongly male nor strongly female, and is aggressively anti-racist. Very protective of Jews, while claiming to be impartial, New American Person is 100% certain both that the Holocaust happened and that that fact must never questioned or investigated. Not so much atheist as uninterested in, or even suspicious of, traditional notions of God, New American Person nevertheless holds these secular beliefs with a fervor best characterized as religious. Scientific investigation of their accuracy is discouraged, and always penalized by social and even criminal sanctions. In this, they resemble strongly tenets of religious faith.

      In a sense, New American Person represents an advance over its two predecessors, New Soviet Man and New Aryan Man. The architects of New American Person appear to have realized that those previous New Men were vulnerable because they had principles, however misguided, and in the end, for various reasons, failed when they were unable to live up to those principles. The improved New American Person lacks this vulnerability because it has no real principles, and ultimately worships only the power granted to it by its technology. Its motto: “If it works, it’s good.” Its values of freedom, equality, and democracy, therefore, are less principles than its mythic aspirations, evolved as a technique for producing maximum social harmony. Attempts to define them show that they are little more than catchphrases, gutted-out words which can be twisted and reshaped to mean virtually anything, as the situation dictates. Consequently, in the name of freedom and equality, whole libraries full of lawbooks regulating every detail of behavior are tolerated. New American Person is also quite prepared, with a vast array of sophisticated technological weaponry, to impose its version of democracy on all the peoples of the world (at least the ones incapable of effectively fighting back), killing every man, woman, and child of them, if necessary, until they agree to accept it.

    5. New America Says:

      in partial reply to Adam:

      you wrote, in part:

      I’m not sure what to make of what New America has told us so far. It’s seems he endorses some version of Harold Covington’s PNW migration, and building a “new Christian man” – but not via a mass movement. How he proposes to bring these things about is a mystery, at least to me.

      in reply:
      One, I totally endorse Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Model, as the largest, grandest, clearest Vision of what is easily achievable, if we choose to make it so.

      Thus, I see a need to define ourselves in terms of preparing to live our lives AS IF we were members of this explicitly Racial Republic, by being the best at what we do, starting where we are.

      For example, what is the purpose of the National Government we have now?

      For Covington’s Northwest Republic, the minimal national government – the Overstate, if you will – has ONE AND ONLY ONE PURPOSE:

      THE PURPOSE OF THE STATE IS TO DEFEND THE RACE.

      This requires, well, Aryan – “Better” – people at all levels of society, and this is what we should try to be, starting where we are.

      Remember what David Lane said he would have done if he had it to do over:

      He would have started a small business, and helped develop other small businesses, with a common element, and expand outward – and upward! – organically, from there.

      Wise words, and ones we would all do well to heed.

      That is the Mindset we need to develop.

      Two, I do not propose to develop a “new Christian Man.”

      I do believe we should work to develop a new Christianity, one not bound to the Institutionally gelded JUDEO-Christianity we see before us.

      Remember, when Christianity was Patriarchal, Christianity was successful. The New Christianity should be Masculine, Patriarchal, and based pretty much on the Christian books of the Bible – those would be The Gospels, and, to see some ideas of what Christianity could develop into, the Book of Revelation.

      That’s it.

      However, following Covington’s Model, any mature worship of the Creator would co-exist with us just fine – Metzger’s Sun Worship, Modern Paganism, all well and good.

      you wrote:

      Also, I wonder if he really believes (and wants everyone else to believe) in this type of Christianity, or whether he regards Christianity as merely a technique for manipulating large groups of people. The latter it has done very well for generations. But not everyone has the knack for believing in Jeboo, or accepting that people can rise from the dead.

      in reply:
      See above.

      I regard Christianity, properly defined, as being a religion that only the White Race has been able to define, and defend, and it has changed as the needs of the Race have changed; in short, as we have grown, as a Raced, seen in the development of Western Civilization, so too, has Christ worked to make Christianity a LIVING Religion, which transforms to meet the current needs of the Race to be better in their pursuit of their unique, wonderful Destiny.

      And, if you want “a technique for manipulating large groups of people,” color television has done this far better than Christianity ever could.

    6. Parsifal Says:

      “New Soviet Man — New Soviet Man believed in the primacy of Marxism-Leninism, and class struggle, as opposed to race struggle. He disbelieved in genetics, eugenics, the existence of such a thing as “human nature”, objective reality, and race, believing these ideas merely to be outmoded and oppressive constructs of the ruling class. He was to work tirelessly with selfless dedication for the triumph of the proletarian over the bourgeois and capitalist. New Soviet Man was to be strongly anti-racist, anti-sexist, atheist, and international communist. ”

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      The Communists saw everything in terms of class and economics, something which, truth be told, does have more than a little validity. A bunch of gun-wielding niggers trying to jack your SUV at a stoplight is one thing. But when all the wealth and power in our society is getting concentrated into fewer and fewer hands, while your standard of living is dropping like a stone and you’re getting deeper into debt, then the issues of class struggle and wealth distribution become very real indeed.

      And it’s not all the Jews’ fault. Hardly! The people mainly responsible for oppressing and exploiting us are wealthy, powerful, fellow Whites….The White executives who ship your job off to India, or who make obscene profits while raising the costs of health care and gasoline. The White contractor and manufacturer, who only hire underpaid illegal beaners to build those McMansions and yachts. The White Federal judge, who sentences some poor dumb White kid to thirty years in prison for spraypainting a swastika on a synagogue door, or stabbing some nigger in a fight. The rich Whites who move to a certain area for its view of the ocean or the mountains and then force the poorer Whites off their property. The White politicians who vote for Hate Crime laws or vote to borrow a few trillion more from the Red Chinese. The White CEOs who lay off 10,000 of their White employees while getting multimillion dollar bonuses and pay raises for themselves.

      I hear that the richest 3% in this country own about 75% of the wealth. Do you think they obtained all that wealth fairly? Do you think they will be happy with “only” 75%?

      You’re goddamn right I beleive in class warfare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    7. Stronza Says:

      Infirmities to be eradicated through what particular eugenic measures?

      There’s all kinds of eugenics, both humane and inhumane. I think that our survival hinges on eugenics, but not by killing imperfect people or engaging in the ridiculous, high-tech, superexpensive kind of eugenics espoused by scientists who are obsessed with the stuff in their stupid little test tubes; they are freaky sorts of semihumans with no practical skills, yet they think they can perfect the world. Just another attempt at establishing a technocracy. We humans are not perfectible; it isn’t going to happen. Best we can do is reduce the numbers of highly infirm people.

      Some of the earliest people, the paleolithic, practiced eugenics by feeding the woman who wished to become pregnant a diet of rich, highly nutritious food, special foods not eaten daily by the rest of the trible. Excellent nutrition and a clean, healthy daily life is a good place to start developing a healthy tribe. Or is this all too mundane?

    8. New America Says:

      in reply to Parsifal:

      you wrote:

      And it’s not all the Jews’ fault. Hardly! The people mainly responsible for oppressing and exploiting us are wealthy, powerful, fellow Whites….The White executives who ship your job off to India, or who make obscene profits while raising the costs of health care and gasoline. The White contractor and manufacturer, who only hire underpaid illegal beaners to build those McMansions and yachts. The White Federal judge, who sentences some poor dumb White kid to thirty years in prison for spraypainting a swastika on a synagogue door, or stabbing some nigger in a fight. The rich Whites who move to a certain area for its view of the ocean or the mountains and then force the poorer Whites off their property. The White politicians who vote for Hate Crime laws or vote to borrow a few trillion more from the Red Chinese. The White CEOs who lay off 10,000 of their White employees while getting multimillion dollar bonuses and pay raises for themselves.

      I hear that the richest 3% in this country own about 75% of the wealth. Do you think they obtained all that wealth fairly? Do you think they will be happy with “only” 75%?

      You’re goddamn right I beleive in class warfare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      in reply:

      Your most telling point was made at the beginning of your post, when you said:

      And it’s not all the Jews’ fault. Hardly! The people mainly responsible for oppressing and exploiting us are wealthy, powerful, fellow Whites….

      All true, but my focus would be on the larger issues implicit in David Lane’s commentary on what he would do.

      Let me tie it in with the greatest Insight Metzger ever had, when he noted:

      “Who do I blame for all of these things happening to us? I blame us, because we let it happen to us.”

      Covington said it best:

      It makes no sense to try to do what we want to do WITHIN The System, because The System designed to stop what we are trying to do.”

      WE were groomed to be tools of the System, at all points possible, by an educational system that is actually, first and foremost, an indoctrination system.

      All too many of us – say, 90% – never outgrew this enforced state of Childhood, with its attendant state of Learned Helplessness.

      Lane saw that we would have to develop the skills needed slowly, and steadily, always working to the fulfillment of a Greater Purpose – a Homeland for our Race, in the fulfillment of a Racial Destiny that will have our Posterity walk Among The Stars.

      I suspect Lane realized the greatest strength of the Jews is a single-minded focus on Racial Duty – a thousand years ago, a rag merchant who made a penny profit at the end of the day was happy as a matter of two principles.

      The first principle, the Lesser Principle, was his ability to skillfully manipulate the Outsiders – the Other RACES – into supporting him at their expense.

      The second principle, the Greater Principle, is this:

      That penny, INVESTED over a thousand years in developing the Race, helped lay the temporal foundations for the Race of Israel conquering all other races.

      The Jews had a a Plan, with One Commandment, and One Goal, towards which even the smallest of actions could be placed in the service of.

      We don’t – and, the System is designed to stop THAT happening at any price.

      Every time we see ourselves as victims, and helpless victims, at that, we define ourselves down to the level where the Destroyer rejoices; beaten and demoralized, we are strongly encouraged to remain Eternal Children – Puer Aeternae, Peter Pans playing at the work of Adults – always at the mercy of the kindness of strangers who see us as we see sheep, grazing animals that naturally look Down, and NEVER look up.

      THAT is what we must fight, within Ourselves, where he SO have the Power to Choose.

      I see Covington’s Northwest Republic as the best designed Bridge to get us from where we are, so that, one day, our Posterity will walk Among The Stars.

      THAT is the outcome of a thousand small choices we make daily, and THOSE choices are where our Power – our ability to be effective – resides.

      We simply need to be united in the overarching Goal, and all else will fall into place, solely as the result of OUR disciplined labors.

      Thus, we will turn the Jews from Attacking Demons, into Servant Angels, because we will learn FROM them, how they control us, and the Institutions that are so much a part of our lives.

      Note this, as well:

      The ONE thing all of our Racial Enemies have worked diligent to destroy is the foundation of our Warrior Caste.

      What would you do about THAT, personally?

      How would you do that?

      More to follow.

    9. New America Says:

      in reply to Stronza:

      you wrote:

      Infirmities to be eradicated through what particular eugenic measures?

      There’s all kinds of eugenics, both humane and inhumane. I think that our survival hinges on eugenics, but not by killing imperfect people or engaging in the ridiculous, high-tech, superexpensive kind of eugenics espoused by scientists who are obsessed with the stuff in their stupid little test tubes; they are freaky sorts of semihumans with no practical skills, yet they think they can perfect the world. Just another attempt at establishing a technocracy. We humans are not perfectible; it isn’t going to happen. Best we can do is reduce the numbers of highly infirm people.

      in reply:
      I must take issue with your idea that the “best we can do is reduce the numbers of highly infirm people.”

      The BEST we can do is to Do Better, consistently.

      Take your best case scenario, and the “highly infirm people” are all gone.

      What then?

      A handful of simple measures, DONE CONSISTENTLY, add both years to your life, and quality of life to those years.

      Why not start where we can, on the low, very cheap, very cost-effective end, so the RACE can afford to treat those who are “highly infirm” with the dignity and respect they deserve.

      I think of elderly relatives of mine, who went through the First Great Depression, and lived a damn hardscrabble life as hillbilly farmers, working ten to twelve hours a day, seven days a week, just to damn survive.

      Finally, their bodies gave out.

      So, do we keep up Grandma’s farm, out in the middle of Nowhere, all of us taking a few days of vacation once a year to go out and keep the place up, so the Family’s work of her lifetimes is not dissipated, while allowing her a measure of self-sufficiency and dignity, or do we farm her out to a nursing home, where her lazy years will be spent as a tool for profit maximization by the owners of the nursing home?

      Families Are The Foundation Of The Nation.

      you wrote:

      Some of the earliest people, the paleolithic, practiced eugenics by feeding the woman who wished to become pregnant a diet of rich, highly nutritious food, special foods not eaten daily by the rest of the trible. Excellent nutrition and a clean, healthy daily life is a good place to start developing a healthy tribe. Or is this all too mundane?

      in reply:
      We must harness what seems to be the mundane, to the service of a much greater Racial purpose.

      This technique has worked for the Jews with tremendous success.

      It can do so for us, as well.

      Incidentally, speaking of dysgenic social practices, note that all of the White schools funding for the Gifted and Talented students is gone, all to support the “needs” of the Special Education students.

      Question:

      In an all-White Racial Homeland, like Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic, how long do you think that would go on?

      Bonus Question:

      Why?

    10. Adam Says:

      Parsifal Says:

      The Communists saw everything in terms of class and economics, something which, truth be told, does have more than a little validity.

      Reducing everything to economics and class warfare based on economics falsifies reality. It’s a very jewy way of seeing things, and although it can have its uses, I think its a bad idea to accept this frame of reference generally. After all, there are lots of important human motivations that have nothing to do with the economics, which on the individual scale can only mean the profit motive. Do you have children? If so, what would you sell them for? What about personal honor or integrity? Can you put a price on it? Loyalty? How much is it worth? In short, if you agree that such things as kinship, loyalty, and honor are for sale, you tacitly denigrate yourself and play into the hands of the Jew. Seeing things in this way makes it impossible to justify the existence of other cultural systems in which money is not the highest value, because you have agreed in advance that such systems don’t exist.

      However, because modern technological civilization is global in scope, and as a practical matter if not by definition is multi-racial and multi-cultural, money is the only common unit of exchange, and as a consequence that sort of thinking is encouraged. The relationships between nations begin with the economic. This places it at odds with other cultural systems, such as the one that was attempted by the Nazis, or the one that is being attempted by Islamists, or the one proposed above by New America.

      Historically, the sequence is usually as follows:

      First, an economic relationship is established between two nations/races. Examples: the slave trade, where the nigger became a commodity, a farm animal; or the Jew, who proved useful to the old white elites in Europe as a tax collector and a slave trader.

      Next, someone notices that economic relations will be enhanced if certain political rights and responsiblities are granted to the parties. A political relationship between the two nations/races becomes established. Examples: slavery being an inefficient system, the negro is freed and given right to vote; colonies of a sovereign nation accepting the protection of a patron state in return for allowing their economic resources to be exploited, such as happened in Europe’s relation to the New World, Africa, Asia, etc.

      Next, as economic and political relationships become elaborated, the two nations/races start to become socially amalgamated. Social amalgamation is dictated by internal logic of the development of the technological system. It helps things function more smoothly if the component human parts become more like one another, since technical systems require uniform input and output. Examples: the contamination of white culture by negro anti-culture – as in jazz and rock music, sports, films, etc.; the entire civil rights movement; desegregation.

      The final phase is genetic amalgamation of the two nations/races. Pre-existing human races, created by natural selection, are destroyed. The technological system has no use for those racial distinctions, any more than it has a use for the outmoded values of kinship, loyalty, or honor. They are relics of a previous natural system which has now been superseded. The technological system is all-devouring, and can allow nothing to stand outside itself, just as the technological state can allow no authority higher than itself. Thus we see that the root of what New America perceives as a “war” declared by the system against the white race, and against white values is, as a practical matter, the necessary result of the growth of the technological system.

      If the white race is to be preserved, at least in anything like its current form, then it follows that the technological sytem must be either permanently crippled or destroyed.

    11. New America Says:

      in reply to Adam:

      I think your reply to Parsifal missed Parsifal’s key points, which seem to have more clear, solid validity than some might have given them credit for, particularly as they tie into a major structural issue we face regarding the formation of fairly rigid “class” – socieconomic status – lines in an America where the Middle Class is rapidly disappearing.

      Parsifal wrote, in part:

      The Communists saw everything in terms of class and economics, something which, truth be told, does have more than a little validity.

      Your reply began:

      Reducing everything to economics and class warfare based on economics falsifies reality. It’s a very jewy way of seeing things, and although it can have its uses, I think its a bad idea to accept this frame of reference generally.

      in reply:
      You misquoted Parsifal, who did not reduce “everything to economics and class warfare…”

      And, anyone who doubts economics and class warfare do not provide a significant part of a useful analytical framework for human behavior need only visit any area where manufacturing has gone away, forever.

      The class warfare element is subtle, but extraordinarily powerful, when you realize the greatest tool the wealthy have – and I define “wealth” as liquid assets of $100,000,000 – is a tax code that is at their beck and call, and a wide range of “off-shore asset protection tools” to insure that their lead, over you, can never be matched, by you.

      Your next set of arguments are stronger.

      The linkage between economic development between nations – the foundation of international relations – and, in time, explicit and formal political relationships, cultural relations, and genetic amalgamation, all, seemingly, all but inevitable in a modern technological social order.

      The founder of Zionism saw the same issues, and worked to develop Zionism, and the State of Israel, as firewalls against the Racial intermingling that the strategic Jewish thinkers see as their REAL “Holocaust.”

      Yet, as Linder said, the Jews just keep winning, almost without opposition, because, disunited though they may be, internally, to the Greater World they present a remarkably uniform facade, as they can all agree on One Thing – Jewish Racial Domination of the Planet – and One Commandment – “Is it good for Jews?”

      Imagine if we could create a White State where the (minimal) central government operates and makes all decisions based on One Question – “Is it good for the Race?”

      This works extraordinarily well for the Jews, and should work even better, for us.

    12. Adam Says:

      You misquoted Parsifal, who did not reduce “everything to economics and class warfare…”

      I copied his words verbatim, and so did not “misquote” him. Communists, of which he was here approving, do indeed reduce everything to a matter of economics and class warfare. I merely pointed out there are other causes of conflict than economics. Do you disagree?

      And, anyone who doubts economics and class warfare do not provide a significant part of a useful analytical framework for human behavior need only visit any area where manufacturing has gone away, forever.

      As I said, “It’s a very jewy way of seeing things, and although it can have its uses, I think its a bad idea to accept this frame of reference generally.”

      Imagine if we could create a White State where the (minimal) central government operates and makes all decisions based on One Question – “Is it good for the Race?”

      This works extraordinarily well for the Jews, and should work even better, for us.

      You haven’t understood the argument.

      To the technological system, the question is not (and can’t be) “Is it good for the race?”, since as I said, race had developed under the system of natural selection, and is at best a nuisance from the perspective of the technological system. Such a system requires a uniform product as input in order to provide a uniform output. Hence, the current project of producing the tan everyman, the “New American Person”. He is a product of “technological selection”, a process whereby man is re-engineered to be better adapted to technological society. He represents the end phase of the elaboration of the technological system.

      With respect to Israel, I will only point out that in my opinion, its long-term survival prospects seem poor. It’s an economically and politically dependant state, so weak that it cannot survive without outside aid. Its eventual political and social integration with the rest of Palestine seems to me to be inevitable. The Jews themselves, on the other hand, haven’t really required Israel, and still don’t require its continued existence, although of course it is very convenient for them to have such a state to serve them as an international crime headquarters. They have managed to persist in diaspora for thousands of years not because of Israel, but only because they are a unique people with a racial religion. With little or no concept of truth, honor, or loyalty beyond “what’s good for Jews?”, and what is probably a genetically-based obsession with money and the power it can buy, they are peculiarly well adapted to survival in the milieu of technological society. Whites have no such advantage, unfortunately.

    13. New America Says:

      in reply to Adam:

      One, you misquoted Parsifal, who noted that the class and economic reductionism of Communism was absolute and total for the Communists, but, to Parsifal, had “more than a little validity.”

      It was not the total validity of the Communist theoretician.

      Parsifal would seem to be right at home with Jack London’s model of class dynamism and economic stratification of the classes, certainly much more than he would have been with Marx and his followers.

      Tying this back to White Nationalist issues, note that Terrible Tommy Metzger has come around to being, at his best, a letter day student of Jack London. Metzger has no illusions about the total cultural, political, and economic war that has been waged upon us, and neither did Jack London.

      Two, you are right about it being a “very Jewy way of thinking”; after all, it’s the development of Jews who were filled with a hatred of what only the White Race could create.

      Three, you stated:

      You haven’t understood the argument.

      in reply:
      I think I have.

      you wrote:

      To the technological system, the question is not (and can’t be) “Is it good for the race?”, since as I said, race had developed under the system of natural selection, and is at best a nuisance from the perspective of the technological system.

      in reply:
      A fascinating relationship has developed between Civilization, technology, and Race seen from a genetic perspective.

      Civilization – which only one Race, the White Race, can Create and develop, works to shift the raw material of genetics. Ironically, in marked contrast to the wish of the Jews, Civilization – the White Race – wins again.

      The mechanism of epigenetic inheritance have been discovered by a team at Princeton.

      RACE wins again.

      You might want to look at a book called “The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution,” by Cochran and Harpendining, for further explication of the interaction between Evolution and Civilization – hint: wew win, if we just ha the balls to accept that and move forward.

      Finally, a bit more substantive read is “Evolution in Four Dimensions,” by Jablonka and Lamb. Jablonka is a professor at Tel Aviv University, so you can’t be called anti-Semitic by citing her works. She has also written on the issues around epigenetic inheritance.

      Not only is Race REAL, but Race MATTERS.

      If Race developed under the natural system, it develops much more under the technological system offered as part and parcel of Civilization.

      And, it matters, much more.

      you wrote:

      Such a system requires a uniform product as input in order to provide a uniform output. Hence, the current project of producing the tan everyman, the “New American Person”. He is a product of “technological selection”, a process whereby man is re-engineered to be better adapted to technological society. He represents the end phase of the elaboration of the technological system.

      in reply:
      He is such only the the extent that he accepts the limits of the technological system as designed by its current controllers.

      Fortunately, our genetic inheritance is moving where the dysgenicists can’t follow us.

      As well, I assure you, the genetic engineers of China are moving ahead with all due speed to create Homo Superior.

      you wrote:

      With respect to Israel, I will only point out that in my opinion, its long-term survival prospects seem poor. It’s an economically and politically dependant state, so weak that it cannot survive without outside aid. Its eventual political and social integration with the rest of Palestine seems to me to be inevitable.

      in reply:
      Rag merchants invested pennies over centuries; that they could create the State of Israel is mute testimony to the power of a theory of Positive Racism.

      That this dream is unsustainable is of secondary import, as the Nation of Israel – the Jewish RACE – will outlive the State of Israel, which, incidentally need no longer be located in the desert.

      One square block in Basel would do just fine for their embassy.

      you wrote:

      The Jews themselves, on the other hand, haven’t really required Israel, and still don’t require its continued existence, although of course it is very convenient for them to have such a state to serve them as an international crime headquarters.

      in reply:
      The Jews have required Israel as a marketing tool to enforce racial unity in the fulfillment of a Racial purpose.

      It seems to have worked admirably, if only for that purpose, alone.

      And, as for an “international crime headquarters,” one square block in Basel for their embassy will do that nicely.

      you wrote:

      They have managed to persist in diaspora for thousands of years not because of Israel, but only because they are a unique people with a racial religion.

      in reply:
      I think two concepts are being inadvertently merged here, and the meld can be defined and sustained by the idea that, while there are other “unique peoples with racial religions,” Israel gave them a TEMPORAL version of our Kingdom of Heaven.

      Unburdened by any concept of spiritual duties, rewards, or punishments beyond Racial conquest in a temporal universe, the inherently feral nature of the Jews was given full reign to take to Christianity live wolves to lambs.

      you wrote:

      With little or no concept of truth, honor, or loyalty beyond “what’s good for Jews?”, and what is probably a genetically-based obsession with money and the power it can buy, they are peculiarly well adapted to survival in the milieu of technological society. Whites have no such advantage, unfortunately.

      in reply:
      Whites can DEVELOP such thinking.

      When I was thinking of a role model for us, in at least one are – that of choosing to NOT be a victim – I thought of the new movie, “Public Enemies.”

      The Jew-controlled Lamestream Media described Dillinger as a bad man who robbed banks.

      In the popular view of rhw time, Dillinger was a hero because he only tole from the banks who stole from the people, AND he destroyed mortgages as part of his efforts.

      No proof of a mortgage, no mortgage, no standing to foreclose.

      Hell, the man was a national hero to the dispossessed, White, working class Americans…

      And that’s all I’ll say about THAT, for now!

      Perhaps Metzger might have a few words to say about it.

    14. observer Says:

      Excellent nutrition and a clean, healthy daily life is a good place to start developing a healthy tribe.

      You can’t “start” a tribe in 2009. You can see to your own health & hygiene.

      Civilization – which only one Race, the White Race, can Create and develop,

      Except cities, civitates, existed when the Aryans were rustling each others’ cattle and eating dingo out on the steppe. Swoosh! Down comes the self-important house of cards.

      Civilization is overrated; it’s what afflicts us, not an object of worship. White nationalists are very confused — on one hand they yearn for archaic simplicity (talk of “tribe”, “babies”, “collapse”) and on the other speak in awe of this “Civilization” they want to “preserve”. Which is it, tribus or urbs? But therein lay the dilemma: the urbs has no place for them, yet there is no primitive, unsupervised ager for a new fundatio trib?s

    15. New America Says:

      observer wrote, quoting Stronza:

      “Excellent nutrition and a clean, healthy daily life is a good place to start developing a healthy tribe.”

      observer replied:
      You can’t “start” a tribe in 2009. You can see to your own health & hygiene.

      in reply:
      You can enhance your own Family, and your relations with your extended Family, which is how tribes – truly effective tribes – get started.

      It’s a Start, for a long overdue, very welcome, Change.

      observer wrote, quoting New America:

      Civilization – which only one Race, the White Race, can Create and develop,

      observer replied:

      Except cities, civitates, existed when the Aryans were rustling each others’ cattle and eating dingo out on the steppe. Swoosh! Down comes the self-important house of cards.

      in reply:
      Cities existed, but Civilization – the process of the development of Mankind from the level of Humanity – Culture – to a state of development that is much greater, the ongoing process called Civilization.

      And to anyone who equates cities with Civilization, I invite you to visit Detroit.

      you wrote:

      Civilization is overrated; it’s what afflicts us, not an object of worship. White nationalists are very confused — on one hand they yearn for archaic simplicity (talk of “tribe”, “babies”, “collapse”) and on the other speak in awe of this “Civilization” they want to “preserve”. Which is it, tribus or urbs? But therein lay the dilemma: the urbs has no place for them, yet there is no primitive, unsupervised anger for a new foundation tribes.

      in reply:
      The absence of Civilization, Rousseau’s “State of Nature,” is misunderstood, and that’s why IT is “overrated.”

      My criticism of those who would do away with Civilization is the same as my criticism of those who would do away with Christianity – “What would you replace it with?”

      Cities, at best, are the indicia and the most fertile fields, for the development of Civilization; however, they are not, in and of themselves “Civilization,” as the most casual look at Detroit, or Johannesburg, or Londonistan, would prove.

      You made an excellent point in your formulation that “…there is no primitive, unsupervised anger for a new foundation tribes.”

      The spiritual foundation of anger is a perception of helplessness – usually, sadly, a learned helplessness – which is masked by trapping our Mind – and silencing it – with television, sportschannels, alcohol, and prescription tranquilizers.

      If they would stop trying to DULL the pain, and accept it, see where it is coming from, and see why it is coming from THERE, they could make tremendous strides in personal growth, and effectiveness.

      All the more reason to harness the anger we feel into productive channels, by redefining our relationships within our Families, and from there, outward, transforming what remains and is useful of the Culture before us into Civilization, as we work steadily for the day our Posterity may walk…

      “Among The Stars.”

    16. Adam Says:

      New America Says:

      My criticism of those who would do away with Civilization is the same as my criticism of those who would do away with Christianity – “What would you replace it with?”

      What do you replace cancer with?

    17. New America Says:

      you wrote, quoting me:

      New America Says:

      My criticism of those who would do away with Civilization is the same as my criticism of those who would do away with Christianity – “What would you replace it with?”

      you replied:

      What do you replace cancer with?

      in reply:
      Poor example, save that the example of how deeply the anti-Christianity of Judaism has infested Christianity shows just where the cancer is, and how deeply it has taken over the host.

      Christianity, even in its current, JUDEO-Feminized Form, is the only religion that the Jews will always attack, in all ways possible, by any means necessary.

      What do they, students of us who are so skilled in their understanding that they took over our country without firing a shot, fear from Christianity that we do not appreciate?

      The example of Martel might prove insightful.

      And, to paraphrase Linder, “Martel’s is the moderate position.”

      That’s why our Duty is to transform Christianity into what it should be.

    18. Adam Says:

      You are unconquerable in your ignorance, like most of Jeboo’s halfwit children.

      By the way, Captain America, you have misquoted observer. (I mention this only because I know how it upsets you.) He said that there is no ager (Latin for “field”) in which to found a tribe, not “anger”. Are your superhuman powers of discernment failing you? Do you need new reading glasses? LOL.

    19. Parsifal Says:

      I’ve been around the block a few times and not once has Christianity ever helped me or my family. NOT ONCE. Only a sense of Racial and Family kinsmanship can save us, concepts that are in open conflict with the anti-Family, anti-Nature and anti-Race teachings of Christianity.

    20. New America Says:

      in reply to Parsifal:

      you wrote:

      I’ve been around the block a few times and not once has Christianity ever helped me or my family. NOT ONCE. Only a sense of Racial and Family kinsmanship can save us, concepts that are in open conflict with the anti-Family, anti-Nature and anti-Race teachings of Christianity.

      in reply:
      Your criticism is of what Christianity has become, at the Institutional level – JUDEO-Christianity, which, literally, can not be.

      The parasite has remade the host in its own image, and now, the host is dying; the “Mainstream” congregations are well on their way to the dustbin of history, and good damn riddance.

      You might want to look at the christianseparatist dot org website for some ideas on what Christianity was MEANT to be – Patriarchal, Positive, and Family sure looks synonymous with the word “RACE.”

      Note, by the way, how many churches in Europe are being turned into mosques; or, to put it a bit more bluntly, how many old, decrepit women are being pushed aside by young, vigorous men.

      And why aren’t the Men of Europe defending the churches?

      Simple.

      The churches didn’t want them, so they decided to return the favor.

      There’s a useful example in that, for us.