16 September, 2009

Allen Ginsberg: Media Model for America’s Youth

Posted by Socrates in counterculture, jewed culture, Jewish counterculture, movies, Socrates at 12:47 pm | Permanent Link

Ginsberg

by Dr. William Pierce. (Note: there are two new films about Ginsberg, above):

“Three weeks ago a man named Allen Ginsberg died, at the age of 70. If you were a university student in the 1960s or 1970s, his name will be very familiar to you. He was the person chosen by the media to be the number-one guru for America’s youth during that period. He’s been a sort of secondary guru ever since, and if you studied literature even in the 1980s or 1990s you got a dose of him. He always was treated in a worshipful sort of way by the media, in order to make the more gullible young people believe that he was some sort of genius who was to be taken very seriously. We could see this same worshipful attitude again when the media people reported his death earlier this month. I listened to NBC’s Tom Brokaw talk about Ginsberg on the evening television news. Brokaw behaved as if he were reporting the death of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson. He spoke of Ginsberg as if he had been a talented and sensitive poet, a great soul who had passed away, leaving us all sadder and poorer for the loss. He even read the first line of one of Ginsberg’s so-called ‘poems,’ Howl. And he did it all with a straight face. There was no hint in his facial expression or tone of voice that he wasn’t completely serious. I didn’t see the way the other TV-news anchor-people dealt with Ginsberg’s death, but I presume it was similar to the way Brokaw did it. Certainly, the tone of all of the print media that I saw also was worshipful.”

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  7. 19 Responses to “Allen Ginsberg: Media Model for America’s Youth”

    1. Kuda Bux Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWqHlcAmBeA

      Ginsberg reads HOWL

    2. Zoroastro Says:

      Yet another talentless, hugely over-rated Whitman-wannabe hack.
      Allen was also a rabid, uncontrollable homosexual, one of those that relentlessly preyed on their (largely) homeless victims in places like bus and train depots of the 50’s America…Truly repugnant if not pathetic “poet”.

    3. Tim McGreen Says:

      I attended one of Ginsberg’s last poetry readings. It was SRO, with hundreds of young beatnik wannabes in attendance. He sang little songs about his anus and Vivaldi while cranking the handle of a small barrel organ. Well, it was an experience.

    4. Curt O'brian Says:

      Money and power. Brokaw wouldn’t be allowed on TV if he didn’t tow the Jewish line to the hilt. Why would he do that? MONEY and power. He wanted the money and to be the man sent to interview the foreign leaders. Who knows what palace room and what perks these guys like Brokaw get overseas with the old world ideas of bribery and privilege? I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some prime nookie thrown in as well.

      There are probably plenty of Monica Lewinsky types in the Newsrooms of the East Coast. Hopefully thinner… Brokaw might have run out of cigars many times when he was younger who knows? When you have a culture like the Jews that believes in nothing being off limits then the sky is the limit in a lot of ways.

    5. Tim McGreen Says:

      “There are probably plenty of Monica Lewinsky types in the Newsrooms of the East Coast. Hopefully thinner…”

      ******************************************************

      I’ve been in a few newsrooms and all of them were literally infested with Jewesses. And just about all of those Jewesses had faces that would turn a dog into stone.

    6. Hmm Says:

      Aren’t there letters of the jew Michael Savage Weiner writing homosexual letters to Ginsberg and pictures of them together?

    7. ein Says:

      “I attended one of Ginsberg’s last poetry readings. It was SRO, with hundreds of young beatnik wannabes in attendance. He sang little songs about his anus and Vivaldi while cranking the handle of a small barrel organ.”

      Jews can make a career out of ANYTHING.
      As Gypsy’s (Jewish) mother said, “Ya gotta find a gimmick!”

      Ginsberg found his gimmick.

      And those hundreds of beatnik wannabes … they had found their Pied Piper.

    8. Adam Says:

      Hmm Says:

      Aren’t there letters of the jew Michael Savage Weiner writing homosexual letters to Ginsberg and pictures of them together?

      Yes there are. No doubt these two Jew con men were cornholing each other and sucking each other’s circumsized cocks whenever they were able to get a moment free from fleecing the clueless goyim.

      The careers of both of these alien parasites are reminders that just underneath the repulsive skin of every Jew beats a heart made of the foulest, most satanic shit imaginable. Powering their consciousness and shaping their obscene lives, at the center of each of these Jews is a black hole of all-devouring emptiness, surrounded by a planet-sized ego driving endless self-promotions. That these two shallow, scheming clowns have both become famous, influential, and widely admired figures speaks volumes about the worthlessness of fame and the near limitless gullibility of white people. What an embarrassment!

    9. Shyl0ck Says:

      Anyone who has listened to Savage’s radio show for even a moderate length of time will conclude that the man is a repressed homosexual. He never sees or speaks of physical attraction to women but he will often speak of male beauty.

      You can see clear references to his latent homosexuality manifest itself in his writings as well:
      “One of his books was a work of fiction called Vital Signs, in which the protagonist [who is clearly modeled after himself] wrestles with his attraction to masculine beauty. “I choose to override my desires for men when they swell in me”, Weiner wrote, “waiting out the passions like a storm, below decks.””
      http://www.nndb.com/people/588/000044456/

      You can read of Savage’s dalliances with that equally degenerate, filthy Jew Ginsberg here:
      http://www.sfweekly.com/content/printVersion/321726

    10. Tim McGreen Says:

      The Right-Wing Kahnservative Bowel Movement is ruled by godless Zionist Jews, Internationalist, elitist scum, draft-dodgers and homosexuals. But the Bible-Belt holy-rollers and flag-waving White yahoos are too dumb to see what’s really going on and who’s really in charge of their glorious cause.

      I’m afraid those Whites, who must total in the tens of millions, will be forever lost to us and therefore of no use to the White Struggle, so into the lime-covered pits they go.

    11. Tim McGreen Says:

      The Right-Wing Kahnservative Bowel Movement is ruled by godless Zionist Jews, Internationalists, elitist scum, draft-dodgers and homosexuals. But the Bible-Belt holy-rollers and flag-waving White yahoos are too dumb to see what’s really going on and who’s really in charge of their glorious cause.

      I’m afraid those Whites, who must total in the tens of millions, will be forever lost to us and therefore of no use to the White Struggle, so into the lime-covered pits they go.

    12. Edward Randolph Says:

      Marxism consistently produces Brechts, Pasolinis, Ginsbergs, Nerudas Ginsbergs etc.: adversarial direct action poets, basically. The Racialist side — at least in the last few decades — would appear to produce mostly dull poetry lacking in the sort of dynamism which adversarial poetry can have. Please, if such figures exist, I quite understand that they will not have been canonized & disseminated to the same extent as say Eliot was: inform me of their existence.

      That is, although Modernists such as Ezra Pound, TS Eliot, and ee cummings directly addressed the ‘gremlin problem’ in their work, I see very little of this since their generation, & the same amount of prolific commitment on the other side then as now!

      In the spirit of the conservative revolution motif of Evola’s, this movement requires better PR, more flexible aesthetics, a consciousness of its own intellectual tradition — from The Culture of Critique to The Camp of the Saints — and more…. Savitri Devi types who can comprise a cult figure canon which is very valuable. I was reading an essay recently about an interview by an American journalist in a South American Marxist politician’s office… this politician took a book of Brecht’s off the shelf, opened it to a poem which illustrated the point he was trying to make, and recited a line or so for emphasis. Now, there is something going on there which is very valuable. Perhaps it is true what William Blake says about poets being always “in the devil’s camp”, & yet I am not quite willing to accept this polemic… any more than I have sympathy for a “when I hear the word culture I reach for my gun” sentiment when, truly, a well-organized canon comprised of intelligent figures in various fields of human activity artistic, scholarly, & otherwise, is invaluable to taking a heart-in-the-right-place inchoate partisan of an ideology & giving him conceptual tools. Perhaps, because of his cultured nature, he will even wield that gun with more resolve.

      This post is Digression Extract, so I will simply close by saying that the intellectuals of this movement — Revilo Oliver, Julius Evola, “Savitri Devi” — would tend to rant against “intellectuals” when what they really mean, being intellectuals themselves, is that they oppose LEFTIST intellectuals. This sort of imprecision or intellectual grandstanding is unnecessary, the merits of these people’s work overall notwithstanding… On the other hand, the tone which Kevin McDonald strikes in his work is very encouraging because it does not depend on such rhetoric… Its rhetoric is detached, analytical, sinewy… an antidote to excess.

      For every Che which the blank slate Marxists and the gremlins-proper produce, let a similar dynamic figure arise on this side of the fence.

      By the way, it would have been nice if Pierce had actually quoted some of the poetry… I question whether he even read Howl, because if he had then he might have mentioned the open reference to “Hebrew-Socialist Revolution” contained in if I remember correctly the “I’m with you in Rockland section”. Had Pierce’s essay focused on such explicit references it would, unless I miss my guess, have had more impact on those for whom its sentiments are not simply preaching to the choir.

    13. Ein Says:

      “This post is Digression Extract … it would have been nice if Pierce had actually quoted some of the poetry……it would, unless I miss my guess, have had more impact on those for whom its sentiments are not simply preaching to the choir.”

      Good point. As far as “preaching to the choir” is concerned, a close analogy would be preaching to the Devil — since most of these sites are so richly filled with agents, trolls, and provocateurs. One suspects there are more of them than of the choir!

      I’m sure the Devil gets up early on Sunday to get to church on time. He doesn’t want to miss a word  of the sermon, in order to hear what’s being said (about him).   He listens attentively and is very well versed in all church matters. 

      Meanwhile, half the parishioners stay home and snooze late.  They don’t care, they’d rather sleep.

    14. Tom McReen Says:

      “I’m afraid those Whites, who must total in the tens of millions, will be forever lost to us and therefore of no use to the White Struggle, so into the lime-covered pits they go.”

      So the resident 1960s time-warped troll who attended fag Ginsberg ‘poetry readings’ now openly fantasises about mass murdering tens of millions of Whites.

      It doesn’t get anymore jewish than that.

    15. Tim McGreen Says:

      Tom McReen Says:

      20 September, 2009 at 6:11 pm

      “I’m afraid those Whites, who must total in the tens of millions, will be forever lost to us and therefore of no use to the White Struggle, so into the lime-covered pits they go.”

      So the resident 1960s time-warped troll who attended fag Ginsberg ‘poetry readings’ now openly fantasises about mass murdering tens of millions of Whites.

      It doesn’t get anymore jewish than that.

      ******************************************************

      Step right this way, Mr. McReen……..By the way, what part of Ireland are the McReen’s from? County Pork? Hmm, never heard of that one…………Anyway, keep walking, sir. That’s right, just keep walking into the forest. Your um, “prize” is just behind those trees inside that shallow, lime-covered pit. That’s right, there’s a new pony in there just for you. His name? I don’t know…Mittens, I think.

      OK, Mr. McReen. Just stand there on the edge of the pit and keep your eyes closed. No peeking! Ready? You’re about to get the reward you so RICHLY deserve……………………

      Author’s note: A few moments later, the sound of a lime-covered pony could be heard whinnying in the forest, along with some girlish screams either of delight or of terror. It was too far away to determine which they were. Mr. McCreen was never heard of or seen again in County Pork, much to the delight of EVERYONE.

      THE END.

    16. Edward Randolph Says:

      Excuse me, I meant to say Freedom RIDERS…

    17. Edward Randolph Says:

      “I’m sure the Devil gets up early on Sunday to get to church on time. He doesn’t want to miss a word of the sermon, in order to hear what’s being said (about him). He listens attentively and is very well versed in all church matters.”

      Quite. I knew a Wellington, NZ couple who were very starbright, very multicult… They quite disliked my ‘out’ racialism. On the other hand, re the Devil being an avid Churchgoer… they were charging an islander boy — none too bright, and that is in comparison with other islanders — 165 NZD a week or thereabouts for the room he was renting… in a city where students, backpackers et al can rent a room for considerably less. I found the juxtaposition disturbing, not least because my racialism — that is, my acknowledgment of inequality, my approval of its political manifestations — does not translate into my ripping off non-Whites whom I encounter. The couple’s behavior was a complete disconnect between “ceci” and “la pipe”, that’s for sure. Similarly, I know of people who receive strange respect from people around them — silly, illusory social respect, what is called “bourgeois respectability” I suppose — who, come to find out, have child porn in their bedroom not far from the opium pipes. Now, opium? Fine, fine. I could care less. Magazines named “Piccolo”? It wasn’t possible to flat anymore with THAT!

      Anyway, I did nothing to hide my racialism from the couple, which is a great way to get rid of acquaintances who are more of a liability than an asset. I would rather speak with a non-White who admits the truth of inequality & the organic legitimacy of ethnocentric politics than to waste my time with a multicult White, other than perfunctorily to acquaint them with racialism & continue on my way; and I do speak to such non-Whites, just as “Savitri Devi” did to Mukhergi. Interracial racialism — tactical accord with racialists of other races — is a step above that sensibility which in effect supplies the ‘straw man racialism’ deliberately confused by the media with the real thing.

      Now, here is the quote from part 3 of “Howl” which I referenced earlier…

      “I’m with you in Rockland
      where you accuse your doctors of insanity and
      plot the Hebrew socialist revolution against the
      fascist national Golgotha”

      There it is, right out in the open. Some multicult readers are close readers of texts; some of them may find, upon encountering such a passage, that their close reading of texts wars dramatically with their multicult ideology.

      Now, in my volume of William Burrough’s letters to Allen Ginsberg the introduction states that Burroughs later turned against Jews — although in the abstract, not in terms of his friendship with Ginsberg — but ever since I have been unable to find anything to back this reference up.

      Hmm, & something else occurs to me… just because the walls of Jericho fell in the 60’s, at least in the USA, does not mean we should fail to notice that both positives & negatives were lumped into the period & into the Beat Generation which preceded it. Some White people abandoned relatively contrived, supermarket-focused lifestyles & learned to grow their own food (not just the obvious)… A focus on nutrition & educating oneself about the uses of various herbs & fitness activities is also part of the period. &, let us not forget that intellectual activists such as MacDonald were influenced by the protest movements of the time period, which would appear to have stimulated people of various ideologies. I myself looked to the 60’s for much of my teenage years because it was, frankly, better than the plastic cosmopolitanism or Judeo-Christian superstition which were my other choices!

      I admit that if I, for instance, associate the 60/70’s with taking a fresh view at things & the adoption of unpopular opinions it may inspire quite different productions in me than in another person. But anyhow, the period was not monolithic… Various currents, not just the gremlin Freedom Riders and so forth, were involved in its make-up.

      Hmm, dawn is here. :p

      I wonder why this post failed to go through but the post after it, one correcting something in this post did not… Ah well.

    18. Ein Says:

      Yes, the devils seem to outnumber the choir.

    19. Z.O.G. Says:

      Tim McGreen Says:
      16 September, 2009 at 1:45 pm

      I attended one of Ginsberg’s last poetry readings.

      Gee, why am I not surprised!? WTF?