18 June, 2014

Book Notes

Posted by Socrates in Alex Linder, Socrates at 5:49 pm | Permanent Link

by Alex Linder.

[…]

“Reproducing Rape (1993), by Gregory M. Matoesian.

Study in the verbal encoding of patriarchal modes of domination simultaneously at multiple levels but with particular close focus on language as formally and interactively employed or occurring in rape trials. What leftists see is what they will try to do themselves. So, this ostensible examination of legal-institutional/social-cultural patriarchy in practice offers a better framework for understanding how leftists will try to structure discourse to achieve and reproduce anti-white/anti-‘male’ outcomes. For one as interested in language as I am, this was a particularly interesting book. I doubt most readers could stand a page of it, and I’m not exaggerating. Matoesian, who must be a professor or a trial lawyer himself, or both at some point, has mastered the minutiae of political leftism and academia. It’s incredibly intricate. More intricate than anything I’ve come across. He’s not so much wrong in what he’s saying as that he only gives you have the story, in that every single verbal privilege the prosecutor employs against the rape victim is counter-employed against the defendant. Yet he doesn’t cover that aspect at all. Yes, he is right: the one doing the interviewing can force the one being queried into one-word responses. I’ve eperienced this first hand; it’s incredibly annoying. But that’s why both parties have chances to lay out their case. In the end, it comes down to what most people in society consider a reasonable person would have done or how he would have acted in a given situtation, and nothing short of totalitarian dictatorship by feminists, which isn’t as unlikely as it sounds, could change that. If what Matoesian describes is indeed patriarchy, yet he never even brings up what would be a neutral or female-centered system, how it would look. I can’t imagine. Perhaps a woman’s feelings would be the standard. It would be illegal to ask if she were drunk, to consider how she was dressed, to consider how many sex partner she had in the past. This last I believe has already been achieved: sex history is off limits for questioning. It is fair to observe what Matoesian does up front: that most rapes are committed by men known to the victim. Only about 20% of the time is it a true stranger rape; the rest of the time it’s either a friend, boyfriend, husband (if you accept marital rape is a thing), coworker or someone within at least the acquaintance circles of the victim. Calling this date rape I think is a bad idea, it’s not a good or useful term. So again, not a particularly useful book, but an interesting one. To be honest, Matoesian would have to answer my charge above: that the defendant is subject to precisely the same controls in the cross-examination as the victim. I leave these 250 dense pages with not even a vague idea of what Matoesian would consider a non-patriarchal system, or what specific changes he would make to the courtroom pattern.”

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  7. 21 Responses to “Book Notes”

    1. fd Says:

      Complexity of rape: Patriarch, matriarch, left, right, extravagant social science language, theory, whatever. What could I do–he had the gun (comic relief). The reputation of those involved and all the variables and facts if they can be uncovered guarantees nothing for the defendant or plaintiff. It only takes one expression or sentence to win the day.

      An East Texas girl was being grilled by a highfalutin lawyer from Dallas in a big divorce trial (1970s). The instant he accused her of infidelity, she yelled out–Bull Corn. The East Texas jury immediately identified with her as the folk and she won the day.

    2. fd Says:

      Date rape oftentimes is sex gone bad. The female scorned exacts revenge.

    3. -jc Says:

      Typo”

      … He’s not so much wrong in what he’s saying as that he only gives you [half] the story…

    4. -jc Says:

      Correction: Typo?

    5. Topkea Says:

      The key to the Movement is the White cock. It represents the creative power of the High Aryan Man and unlocks the next generation of the White race. The White cock is now ridiculed and criminalized (did you know that the big nigger cock story is a MYTH – High Aryan cocks, by which I mean Nordic cocks, not the tiny little stumps swarthoids, dagoes, and subhuman greeks have, are much larger than nigger dicks).

      We have to reclaim this birthright, the key to our power. This is a crucial situs of the Aryan riktus, the divine lingam giving birth to the cosmic thought-universe of White creation.

    6. Tim McGreen Says:

      Tim McGreen
      PAN-AM Building
      New York, NY
      6/19/2014

      Dear Cap’n:
      I have a great deal of respect for you and your erudition. And I would love to post a message on this thread that was relevant to the subject being discussed. “God and Man at Yale”, “The Conscience of a Conservative”, “The Confessions of St. Augustine”…………..But what would be the use?

      It seems that only fd and myself have any respect for you and your efforts. That really ought to change. This site is being taken over, or rather is under threat of being taken over, by one obnoxious, effeminate Jew troll that variously identifies itself as Topqueerboy, Thom McQueer and Anfagonisties.

      Naturally, I don’t know if it is being paid by some Jewish hate group to come here and disrupt things as best it can or if it’s just some pimply-faced cretin that sits in its own filth all day and lives in a storage locker. Whatever it is it should be eliminated from this site. Numerous others, including more than a few interesting fellows, have been banned from posting here and on the Forum, yet this thing is allowed to do whatever it wants. I really am at a loss to understand this.

      I hold in my hands a cheque for £1 and 10 shillings made out to you, Cap’n Linder, of Kirksville, Missouri, USA. I will mail this cheque to said person upon the removal of said bacterial infestation from this site. Do we have a deal, Sir?

      Yours & C.,
      Tim McGreen, Esq.

    7. Antagonistes Says:

      Tim McGreen is rebuked for his Jewish monetary strongarm tactics.

      I never thought I would see a White Nationalist trying to control the content of a website by threatening to withhold money.

      It is so much like those Jews who took control of newspapers by withholding their advertising dollars.

    8. Thom McQueen Says:

      Ant, Tim is under the control of the devil.

      http://www.pbase.com/mf122792/image/153232067

    9. Antagonistes Says:

      Thom, that debil be as naked as Tim and Topkea! And no leather boots!

    10. Antagonistes Says:

      Never mind! She does have leather boots! And gloves!

    11. Tim McGreen Says:

      Hey McQueer, you have utterly FAILED in your attempt to discourage me from posting on this site. I have thoroughly humiliated you each and every time you tried. So, how are you going to explain your failure to your Jew bosses back at Hatewatch, Nancy-Boy?

      Go slither back under your rock. Or don’t. It’s all the same to me, because you are irrelevant.

    12. Thom McQueen Says:

      Tim McGreen wrote:

      “Hey McQueen, you have utterly FAILED in your attempt to encourage me to keep posting on this site. I am thoroughly humiliated by my naked excursions with Topkea. So, how are you going to explain your failure to your new bosses back at VNN, my valiant friend?

      I slithered around holding my cock, and Topkea’s. It’s a load of shame to me, because, believe me, I am not malevolent–I just need help.”

      Tim—I know you need help; we all do at some times, Mate. My advice: White Will. Aryan Steel Resolve. Use it!

      Once you get even an inkling of the Triumph of the Will, and what it means, the victory it give you, you will never go back to being the slave of your whims. You won’t need that yobbo Topkea.

      Good

    13. CW-2 Says:

      Tim, the princely sum of “£1 and ten shillings” won’t pay even for a one section bus ride in the jewK!

    14. Antagonistes Says:

      Poor Tim! Seeking to bribe Socrates and Alex for the price of a bus ride with a bunch of jabbering niggers and chanting moslems?

      Get a grip, man!

    15. Antagonistes Says:

      Back to the subject.

      Date rape is real.

      Leave the women alone. It is all illusion anyway. Anything beyond “no” is rape. Keep your wick dry.

      If you walk through the ghetto, and you get robbed, the brothers might say, “He was drunk. He was dressed like a rich mother. He was axing for it!”

      Same thing.

    16. CW-2 Says:

      Some wimmen can be very demanding…..’hell hath no fury like a woman scorned’.

    17. Antagonistes Says:

      Keep you wick dry, CW-2.

    18. Howdy Doody Says:

      Ten Year’s, still nut cases/trolls are allowed to free range here.

      Mr. Linder and who ever runs this WHY?

      For years I read quality is wanted, but these savage idiots with NYC kike like wordsmithing feom the anti White sewers post here month after month.

      IMO the person who allows these scum poster’s has issues that are beyond freedom to oppose us as they are allowed to go on for years.

      Oh, I will stop posting only if ask and won’t come back if ask under a new name.

    19. Howdy Doody Says:

      Naturally, I don’t know if it is being paid by some Jewish hate group to come here and disrupt things as best it can or if it’s just some pimply-faced cretin that sits in its own filth all day and lives in a storage locker. Whatever it is it should be eliminated from this site. Numerous others, including more than a few interesting fellows, have been banned from posting here and on the Forum, yet this thing is allowed to do whatever it wants. I really am at a loss to understand this.

      Unquote

      Exactly

      How can perverts posting attract decent White’s here?

    20. Howdy Doody Says:

      Final post till a toilet is installed here, with flushing to be done as requred, until that day bye, bye.

    21. CW-2 Says:

      Herr Doody, don’t give in so easily! Fight your corner, don’t give ground to the trolls!