I like the referring to the First American Revolution. Hitler correctly advised the national socialists should use their own history and symbols as inspiration, not the german.

Great to see Gary Nemeth aboard as well.

So i supose you would be useing one of those dreamcatcher things with something like maybe crossed tomahawks .or a burning wagon or scalps hanging from a lodge poll

I think the flag should have a dog on it. That would make it the first flag with a picture of a dog on it. Well, not counting the Former Soviet Republic of "Dogistan" flag, but they were long since annexed by Dagestan in the War over Similar Pronunciation of Foreign Words.

Sons of National Socialism? I don't remember National Socialism ever having sex. Who is the mother? Social Democracy? Anarcho-Syndicalism? National Bolshevism?

One of the first things to consider when creating the name of a product is to avoid anything that can be easily manipulated into a negative response.

How many of us use Bic razors and lighters? We all know that Bic is pronounced "bick." The pronuciation of the name of person who invented the Bic lighter is bich. Madison Street quickly advised his company to ensure that in America the word would be pronounced as bick, not bitch.

Flip my bitch? Wow, I just got a really smooth shave from my bitch!

So, we are offered SONS. If that arcronym is adapted, it is easy to imagine what the antis and ARA type will be shouting at any rally.

Sons! Sons! Sons of bitches!
Sons! Sons! Sons of Hitler!
Sons! Sons! Sons of haters!

The list could go on, but I will leave the rest to your imagination.

Do I have a solution to your quandry--if you have one? Quite frankly no.
I can only suggest you go back to your drawing board on the name of the "new" organization.

I think Sons is good. I'm not crazy about the patch, but it's not too bad. If it was modeled after a fascist patch, that's bad. Turn it straight up and down and it kind of looks Pink Floydie - the path to the pyramid. Many people will want to join if they think it's something to do with pyramids!

Here's a RADICAL idea! How about formulating a plan for organization, ideology, and quality control BEFORE talking about uniforms or logos? Now everyone sit down for this next part, this might be hard to take:

How about devoting the majority of time to the aforementioned issues INSTEAD OF obsessing over uniforms and logos?

Oh wait, that would take too much actual thinking- and who would want to be involved in an organization if it didn't have badass uniforms and ranks so that members could fantasize about being in the military(since they can't get in otherwise)?

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How about devoting the majority of time to the aforementioned issues INSTEAD OF obsessing over uniforms and logos?

How about finding out if there are any degenerates first? Satanists, commie/faggot sympathizers, costume fetishes, mixed breeds, hobbyists and anyone generally knocking what Dr. P's Membership Handbook said should be avoided. Learn from history.

Actually VB will never get it off the ground cuz he'll fold the org twice a week unless he's getting his just attention.

Here's a RADICAL idea! How about formulating a plan for organization, ideology, and quality control BEFORE talking about uniforms or logos? Now everyone sit down for this next part, this might be hard to take:

How about devoting the majority of time to the aforementioned issues INSTEAD OF obsessing over uniforms and logos?

Oh wait, that would take too much actual thinking- and who would want to be involved in an organization if it didn't have badass uniforms and ranks so that members could fantasize about being in the military(since they can't get in otherwise)?

Because that is what it's all about really; uniforms, logos, snappy salutes. It's not about "saving" america or actually building something effective.

Here's a RADICAL idea! How about formulating a plan for organization, ideology, and quality control BEFORE talking about uniforms or logos? Now everyone sit down for this next part, this might be hard to take:

How about devoting the majority of time to the aforementioned issues INSTEAD OF obsessing over uniforms and logos?

Oh wait, that would take too much actual thinking- and who would want to be involved in an organization if it didn't have badass uniforms and ranks so that members could fantasize about being in the military(since they can't get in otherwise)?

That is such a good idea. In fact, I stated the same in another thread 23 hours ago.

Normally a new organization developes an ideology, and then adopts a symbol that reflects its beliefs.

Me thinks Von Bluvens is going about things ass-backwards.

As usual J.P., you are right on the mark! :cheers:

Here are some suggestions for a more truthful name:

Frustrated Angry Gentlemen Getting Onto The Streets(FAGGOTS)

May I suggest this handsome logo I made several months back for the Czech Communist-Nazi Party?

Uniforms and GIRLS!! Guess which one SONS will never have? Guess "Sons" would be appropriate from that perspective.

Last time Slowjewski was this upset was when people dared to doubt the jewish 911 tale.

Last time Slowjewski was this upset was when people dared to doubt the jewish 911 tale.

Wow fucktard,you have a strange definition for "upset" don't you? Any normal person would gather, and quite correctly, that I am laughing my ass off at this little farce.

So 999, are you going to JOIN FAG- I mean... SONS? Are you going to join NSM? Are you going to join NA, the Creativity Movement, NV, Nationalist Coalition? ANYTHING AT ALL? Anything that would require you to cart your fat worthless ass outside of your computer room and be "racist" (GASP!) outside your house?

I won't hold my breath.

Unfortunately I have been contacted by agents of the Platypus Partisan Army who informed me that they would not give up the logo I designed. After their daring mission to recover the NSM member manual/application form, I cannot deny them anything.

They have however informed me that they have discovered an instruction manual on "Creating your Very Own WN Organization". They send they would send it to me tonight.

Whatever could it contain? Who knows?