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And Putin threw-up all over Bush.

Is Putin going to get Bush to turn on the Jews or is Bush going to get Putin to turn on the Russian people? Or are they just going to try to swindle eachother?

They had some stinking kike on Fox news today going on about how the biggest threat facing America is Putin.

Putin is a chess player and Bush is a checkers player.

Well said.

Isn’t a politician anyone cunning person engaged in office?

In the colloquial sense, yes. But such behavior could, with equal justification, be labeled as shyster adventurism in political office. My point is that Putin comes from a political background and engages in politics as the governments of the world and political theorists understand it, whereas Ahmadinejad (and Hitler) came from nowhere and, in consequence, have less concern for procedure, which leads to antics like the Holocaust Conference and the invasion of Russia. Bush, who comes from money, is basically a simple-minded adventurer. None of this is politics per se, but markedly parapolitical. Putin for example is actually concerned with the population level of native (and probably only white) Russians. This is misunderstood by American WNs: they see it from their perspective, as though a politician in the West were breaking with our greatest taboos and going in the right direction. In other words, it is projection — Russia hasn’t suffered the imposition of these taboos, and so the president can, without anyone but Jews getting uncomfortable, move in the direction of what amounts to eugenics for his folk. To them it’s a completely natural concern without any overriding taboo in place to stigmatize it; we in the West feel the taboo, and mistake the issue in Russia for a breach in the taboo whereas, in reality, it is not at all anathema in Russian social discourse. Anyway, politics being, at its root, the means by which a polis is controlled and directed, this issue of the Russian birthrate is a valid political issue. Bush, operating under the taboo against eugenics in accordance with Jewish social engineering, reflexively sidestepping and sabotaging solutions to our own eugenic problems, is acting out a parapolitical adventure, not engaging in politics. He ignores the tactical enemy/Gegner (immigrants), works under the strategic enemy/Feind (Jews), has achieved his widely parapolitical goal of dismantling Iraq, and now is satisfied to play the part of politician between relaxation periods on his estates. He is someone who does not even understand what it means to be a politician. Putin, in total contrast, knows what is strategically good for Russians and acts on it; he opposes the armament of two bitter old enemies, Czechia and Poland, he opposes demographic decline, he opposes unchecked immigrant street commerce, and has, of course, allowed the prosecution of some post-Soviet tycoons (within the framework of economic law, not because they are tycoons, still less because they are Jews, a couple of whom are actually governors of Russian provinces). When Putin blasts the missile defense plan at home, and chats with Bush over here, he isn’t simply being cynical — and in fact he doesn’t change his line, as Bush tacitly acknowledged at the recent outdoor press conference in Kennebunkport when he had to admit, “Sometimes I don’t like what he says, and I’m sure he sometimes doesn’t like what I say”, or to that effect. Of course that is all the usual droll, superficial politicospeak, but it’s an indication that Bush is satisfied, so late in the game, by just having Putin come around and reassure him that he isn’t an extremist (and he isn’t). It is a mistake, and moreover basically plebeian, to think of politics simply as a con-game. It can be, it very often is, but there’s much more to the essence of politics, and political operations, than one guy trying to con the other or the people. Putin seems to me fairly open for a politician. If someone gives him shit, he’ll use gentle mockery to get his point across; even Bush had to laugh when he quipped-down Cheney. The KGB days over, is the thing. In the West we have this stereotype, heavily promoted by Hollywood, that everyone who was involved in the SU suffers a kind of post-Soviet pathological syndrome where they are still living under the Curtain in their heads and acting out Cold War paranoias and manoeuvres; this is pure bullshit, sheer “Yankee” fabrication. Surely that does happen in certain cases, and Russian politics is no doubt as shady as ever, but it’s all exaggerated and exploited for effect.

It would be a better move for ant to call Hitler and Ahmadinejad bad politicians,

Well, for what it’s worth, Ahmadinejad isn’t a fool. He cultivates the available partners outside the political mainstream (especially Chavez) and continues the little farce with the UN about discussing their nuclear programme, while letting it go full-throttle at home. I wouldn’t call him a bad politician, I’m just trying to give a deeper sense to this word “politician”. Hitler, by contrast, failed to develop alliances which actually presented themselves and which he had desired, and broke or failed others which members of his cabinet broke their backs to realize. Hitler wasn’t a politician at all, but an egomaniacal loose cannon.

What anti calls a politician is really a person who makes compromises like The BNP and David Duke.

Not at all. First, the BNP and Duke are not politicians; they are on the sidelines of the business of politics, and always will be. Second, compromise is not necessarily inherent to politics, though it is a reflex among our politicians. Putin has made no significant compromises, to my knowledge. He will continue to oppose missile defense in eastern Europe, just as surely as Poles will continue to lobby for it, to spite both Germany and Russia. Either Poland will lose the bid, and they’ll settle on Czechia as a somewhat less offensive host, or the “West” will hardline it into Poland just to spite Russia — but it is unlikely with Germany’s clout in the EU and Russia’s ominous standing as a fence-straddler between the “good” guys and “bad” guys in modern politics. In any case you are, as it were, pulling down my elaboration of politics by referring it to objections we make to politicians and wannabe-politicians here. What I’m talking about need not have anything to do with compromise. Putin, again, made no political compromise by merely visiting Bush; it may be taken as symbolic weakness, but no modification of Russian policy resulted from it. That’s the stake, here. Policy, not opinion.

When you hear Duke speek he makes you feel like he will make everything ok no matter what race you are. I think Putin is probably smooth like that as well.

No doubt Putin is smooth — after all, KGB stands for KOOL GANGSTA BORIS. However, again, my point has nothing to do with smooth-talking and pulling one over to slither by in office. Politics isn’t just what you read in Machiavelli, Nietzsche or Strauss (deception, manipulation, gladhanding). Putin, so far as I can see, doesn’t slither. Putin’s visit to Kennebunkport was much more a social call than anything else, though certainly any time spent with Bush comes down to a sales pitch.

Putin is taking very positive steps for Russia and Russia being a large part of the world makes positive steps for us as well.

Incorrect: Russia’s policies have nothing to do with us whatever. Not politically, not symbolically. Nothing has resulted, nothing will result, from any of Putin’s actions while president. This used to be called “magical thinking” — how primitives used to believe in correspondence between unrelated phenomena. It is imagined that because Putin – as I said, within the norm of Russian social discourse – touched on a demographic problem (though acting on it to any useful degree is outside the norm of behavior for modern heads of state), this somehow improves our lot, like a smoke signal or something. No one would contend that politicians here would see this and go, hey, Putin’s right, etc. And anyone who would contend that the American people, basically a wretched collection of freaks, slobs, yuppies, assholes and non-whites, the alleged “masses” will “wake up” because of this has, of course, their head firmly planted up their own ass, so far that they may gaze intently only at what they wish will happen in their wee beating heart. Politically, for us, here, in the West, Putin’s actions and opinions are without value, outside, that is, of the miniscule and unimportant excuse for cheerleading it provides to WNs.

But I think he mostly cares just about Russia.

I’d say you’re much closer to the truth, there. And I agree.

You must help your self before you can help others. Help what? Help become more powerful.

Well, this has no meaning at all, unless you think Putin will turn tyrant by not stepping down in ’08, and go on a world-wide crusade to liberate whites from the yoke of Judah. Or, more probably, you were thinking that Putin’s concern for Russia will “inspire” us to somehow do the same, which collapses a distance about as great as that from here to Pluto in a science class diorama. Pleasant, but false.

Fist of all anti do you get paid to do this? You seem to spend a lot of time here to be an anti. I think your wrong when you said I was incorrect about Putins actions affecting the US and Europe. Of course what they do has an effect on the west. They are both part of the shrinking world just like what China, Africa,South America and so on. It might not be a great effect but still an effect. I think the universe is all connected. How could it be otherwise? When somthing happens over here it effects something over there eventhough though it might be in a minuscule way. But I think Russia’s effect on the west is more that minuscule. Then my comment on helping yourself before being able to help eachother that has no meaning. I was taking that from Dr. Pierce when he said we want a team of winners and not a team of losers. Now I know your wanting to say that you are all a bunch of fucking losers. On this I will say that aryans and jews have been playing for power for a long time back and forth and right now we are down. If you are aryan and not a kike then you would be working for us right now if we were winning. And when I said help become more powerful. Isn’t that what we all are striving for wether we know it or not? You didn’t bother explaining you last post. When we take the offensive they will have nowhere to run.

Of course what they do has an effect on the west. They are both part of the shrinking world just like what China, Africa,South America and so on. It might not be a great effect but still an effect.

This doesn’t actually say anything, indeed it is a wonder of evasive vacuity. You say “of course”, which proves nothing, appeal to a “shrinking world” (recall the diorama), and then just assert that “it” – which has not been defined – is an effect. I am not mocking you, simply pointing out that you haven’t really defined the what and how of this alleged effect.

Unfortunately, Putin’s opinions and domestic policies have literally no effect on us. They have an effect on the former Soviet satellites, to be sure, and that is why Bush wanted him over recently. Try to think in very immediate terms; WNs are trained, train themselves, to think along metaphorical, indeed almost magical lines, as you illustrate rather well.

Now, I say above that you have not defined the what and how of the alleged effect. This is because you cannot, and that is because there is no effect beyond giving WNs false hopes and Jews false fears. It does in fact have to do with WNs being losers and Jews being winners: winners fear for the sustenance of their position and losers hope for a reversal. Appealing to morality (“if only we could all get along and fight together against the jew” etc.) is approximately useless.

I think the universe is all connected. How could it be otherwise?

I dunno. Sounds like you’re confusing that last brilliant section of Der Wille zur Macht with world politics, though.

Ok I’ll replay. I think that you must be the delusional one saying that Russia’s actions has no effect on the west. I didn’t mention them because there are many. One they(actions) give white nationalists something positive to talk about. They also hurt world jewerys shrinking confidence and this greatly affects the west. And many more that would talk me a long time to list.

Aren’t you going to answer my question about you geting a paycheck to do this? Here is a nother one. Are you a kike.

You also did not say how the universe could not be connected and that is my arguement about Russia’s effect on the west. I think the effect is decent size and positive. Tell me is it negative? If so why? I also haven’t heard of Der Will Zur Macht.

I have a nother question. Are you one person or a commity of people sitting aroung the ADL office?

Putin seems to be looking out for his own interests, and in some way Russia’s, but not enough. He allows immigration from the Central Asian republics, and he curses nationalists and makes laws against them. He sends off the Russian army to destroy Chechnya while this immigration goes on – much like a neocon, creating nationalism around a war far away while killing the country. He also has several Jews in his government. The thing that pisses off the neocons in the West is that he is playing his own game – he is like them, but Gentile and with interests opposing theirs.

Putin has allowed the neocons to encircle Russia with military bases and military deals without saying much. When he objects to just a part of the agenda, like the radar and missiles in Eastern Europe now, that is enough to call him a “threat,” etc. Laughable. This is just the media using their Big Lie technique.

# Anti Says:
3 July, 2007 at 9:51 pm

By the way, this too is completely false. :(

Another series of Jewish style lectures from this nasty, mouth breathing instigator. Hey “Anti?” Fuck you. BTW, a persons writing style is like a fingerprint, and yours keeps changing from post to post and thread to thread. You’re either a schizophrenic or a “community” of freaks. Either way, it looks like you’ve been “outed”

Go lick the balls of Abe Foxman, it’s your shift, and you’re late for work. Oh, here’s some previous “advice” from this freak or “community” of freaks:

# Anti Says:
25 June, 2007 at 9:09 pm

The “14 Words” can be flushed down the toilet. Having children never saved any people, and any people weak enough to make protecting whatever children they do have top priority in racial warfare is on the way out fast.

Priceless. It’s kind of hard to “save any people” if they don’t reproduce, don’t you think?

What a fucking moron.

I love seeing idiots froth at the mouth. Carpenter, curiously, before yet another dismissive attempt to identify me (as though Slovjanski has nearly the facility with English that I do, as though anyone who writes at length concerning Russia must be Slovjanski), said basically the same thing about Putin as I did. How’s that for laughable? WN small-mindedness knows no limit: they’ll dismiss anything they don’t understand — even if they’re in agreement.

My daddy used to say that there was nothing as useless as a politician that isn’t elected. I would say that Putin does what he deems necessary to be able to do what he considers important. There is “urgent” and then there’s “critical.”

Putin has always impressed me with his character.

http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=167

“Putin has allowed the neocons to encircle Russia with military bases and military deals without saying much. When he objects to just a part of the agenda, like the radar and missiles in Eastern Europe now, that is enough to call him a “threat,” etc. Laughable. This is just the media using their Big Lie technique.”

Russia is encircled? Holy fuck this guy is retarded. More like Russia has encircled Western Europe and the Middle East. Go read up on the Sunburst missles and where they are all stationed at. Then go read up on their nuke subs. You dummy.