2 July, 2007

Putin Visits Bush in Maine

Posted by Socrates in jewed foreign policy, Russia, satire, Socrates at 1:55 pm | Permanent Link

George W: “Vladimir, won’t you at least try the tikkun olam? Just one bite? It’s really tasty, and everyone in Washington loves it.”

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  7. 27 Responses to “Putin Visits Bush in Maine”

    1. cliff Says:

      And Putin threw-up all over Bush.

    2. Mr. Antisemite Says:

      It’s hard to believe that Putin is not cooperating with Bush and the NeoCons in some way. I mean, he does all the things politically correct things like going to the Auschwitz memorial with all the other heads of state. He still refers to the Nazis as the bad guys of WWII and I can’t remember him ever making any connections to the jews role in Bolshevik/Communist revolution in his country.

      But then he also allowed the arrest of 7 of the top 10 jew oligarchs in Russia for stealing the countries resources.

      Putin didn’t support the war in Iraq and he supposedly supplied Syria with Sunburn missiles as counterbalance against Israel. He should know how ruthless Bush and his cabal are, yet he casually accepts an invitation to dinner in Maine with the criminal lackey Bush. Either he’s the world’s best actor or he’s part of the cabal. I can’t put my finger on it, but something ain’t right with this guy.

    3. dq Says:

      Is Putin going to get Bush to turn on the Jews or is Bush going to get Putin to turn on the Russian people? Or are they just going to try to swindle eachother?

    4. zoomcopter Says:

      Putin is a chess player and Bush is a checkers player. Bush was a cheerleader for Yale while Putin was learning German working as an KGB agent in Germany. Putin is well respected in Russia because he is restoring National pride and routing the jewish Oligarchs from the feeding trough. Bush is destroying national pride and comuting the prison sentence of treasonous Irving “Scooter” Libby. I hope Russia can replace Putin with another man of his caliber when his term expires. As for Bush, good riddance.

    5. John Says:

      They had some stinking kike on Fox news today going on about how the biggest threat facing America is Putin.

    6. Anti Says:

      But then he also allowed the arrest of 7 of the top 10 jew oligarchs in Russia for stealing the countries resources.

      Qua oligarchs, not Jews. The arrests had nothing at all to do with them being Jews, politically. All the speculation about Putin from WNs is unnecessary. He’s a fairly typical statesman, though by virtue of being Russian, just a shade more savvy. There is no “will Putin do this, will Putin do that” except in the imagination. What Putin has done, and will do for his last year in office, is humor Bush in the West and oppose his steam in the East. Every time Putin says something controversial – this time regarding the proposed missile defense system in eastern Europe – Bush calls Vladmurr in for a lil’ heart-to-heart and smirk-to-smirk. But you better believe that no Russian president, except the most blatant shabbos, will tolerate a US-run missile depot in Poland.

      Either he’s the world’s best actor or he’s part of the cabal. I can’t put my finger on it, but something ain’t right with this guy.

      Yea, he’s not doing what you think he should. Would make anyone suspicious. — Putin, I’ll say it again and again, does not live in the WN world of “for the joo or against the joo!”; he doesn’t stay up at night wringing his hands over what a bunch of American malcontents think of him. He is no more an anti-Semite than any other average Russian, probably. He’s the president of a massive nation and has to navigate a very difficult course between Scylla and Charybdis, which he does admirably well, I think, managing to sell weapons to Chavez one week, and catch fish with Bush on his boat the next. This is what real politicians do. Ahmadinejad, by contrast, is not really a politician; he’s in a political position, and does with it what he sees fit, in just the same way that Hitler was not a politician. But the point is this: if you know to not go looking for sympathy from world-leaders, you won’t be disappointed when none is forthcoming, and you won’t have to repeat clichés about “will he or won’t he”, which WNs have been doing since the arrest of Khodorkovsky and will do right up until Putin’s last day in office. Putin is not the Messiah.

    7. Anti Says:

      Putin is a chess player and Bush is a checkers player.

      Well said.

    8. dq Says:

      Isn’t a politician anyone cunning person engaged in office? It would be a better move for ant to call Hitler and Ahmadinejad bad politicians, but that wouldn’t be true because they one. What anti calls a politician is really a person who makes compromises like The BNP and David Duke. The society Duke and the BNP live in have more diversity of race that Germany had and Iran has so they have to talk differently. The jewish press is also more powerful so they (DD and BNP) have to present the message in such a way that it is very hard for the press to distort it. In the Will to Power under the herd section it says that the leaders have to seem like the most loving,caring,trustworthy,compassionate, and so on. When you hear Duke speek he makes you feel like he will make everything ok no matter what race you are. I think Putin is probably smooth like that as well. It would be hard to ever talk a white country into attacking another one agen. Putin is taking very positive steps for Russia and Russia being a large part of the world makes positive steps for us as well. But I think he mostly cares just about Russia. You must help your self before you can help others. Help what? Help become more powerful. We awakend whites are now in the footsteps that the jews were in many years ago. We are the slaves in Hegle’s master slave dialectic. The slave knows his master better than the master knows his slave. It keeps switching back and forth between us and the jews and hopefully when we become master agen we will kill them all in some way or another. That is something Duke will never say although he probably thinks it. The jews are trying their very hardest to kill us but can not do so. When we get on the offensive we will be able to kill them easily.

    9. Anti Says:

      Isn’t a politician anyone cunning person engaged in office?

      In the colloquial sense, yes. But such behavior could, with equal justification, be labeled as shyster adventurism in political office. My point is that Putin comes from a political background and engages in politics as the governments of the world and political theorists understand it, whereas Ahmadinejad (and Hitler) came from nowhere and, in consequence, have less concern for procedure, which leads to antics like the Holocaust Conference and the invasion of Russia. Bush, who comes from money, is basically a simple-minded adventurer. None of this is politics per se, but markedly parapolitical. Putin for example is actually concerned with the population level of native (and probably only white) Russians. This is misunderstood by American WNs: they see it from their perspective, as though a politician in the West were breaking with our greatest taboos and going in the right direction. In other words, it is projection — Russia hasn’t suffered the imposition of these taboos, and so the president can, without anyone but Jews getting uncomfortable, move in the direction of what amounts to eugenics for his folk. To them it’s a completely natural concern without any overriding taboo in place to stigmatize it; we in the West feel the taboo, and mistake the issue in Russia for a breach in the taboo whereas, in reality, it is not at all anathema in Russian social discourse. Anyway, politics being, at its root, the means by which a polis is controlled and directed, this issue of the Russian birthrate is a valid political issue. Bush, operating under the taboo against eugenics in accordance with Jewish social engineering, reflexively sidestepping and sabotaging solutions to our own eugenic problems, is acting out a parapolitical adventure, not engaging in politics. He ignores the tactical enemy/Gegner (immigrants), works under the strategic enemy/Feind (Jews), has achieved his widely parapolitical goal of dismantling Iraq, and now is satisfied to play the part of politician between relaxation periods on his estates. He is someone who does not even understand what it means to be a politician. Putin, in total contrast, knows what is strategically good for Russians and acts on it; he opposes the armament of two bitter old enemies, Czechia and Poland, he opposes demographic decline, he opposes unchecked immigrant street commerce, and has, of course, allowed the prosecution of some post-Soviet tycoons (within the framework of economic law, not because they are tycoons, still less because they are Jews, a couple of whom are actually governors of Russian provinces). When Putin blasts the missile defense plan at home, and chats with Bush over here, he isn’t simply being cynical — and in fact he doesn’t change his line, as Bush tacitly acknowledged at the recent outdoor press conference in Kennebunkport when he had to admit, “Sometimes I don’t like what he says, and I’m sure he sometimes doesn’t like what I say”, or to that effect. Of course that is all the usual droll, superficial politicospeak, but it’s an indication that Bush is satisfied, so late in the game, by just having Putin come around and reassure him that he isn’t an extremist (and he isn’t). It is a mistake, and moreover basically plebeian, to think of politics simply as a con-game. It can be, it very often is, but there’s much more to the essence of politics, and political operations, than one guy trying to con the other or the people. Putin seems to me fairly open for a politician. If someone gives him shit, he’ll use gentle mockery to get his point across; even Bush had to laugh when he quipped-down Cheney. The KGB days over, is the thing. In the West we have this stereotype, heavily promoted by Hollywood, that everyone who was involved in the SU suffers a kind of post-Soviet pathological syndrome where they are still living under the Curtain in their heads and acting out Cold War paranoias and manoeuvres; this is pure bullshit, sheer “Yankee” fabrication. Surely that does happen in certain cases, and Russian politics is no doubt as shady as ever, but it’s all exaggerated and exploited for effect.

      It would be a better move for ant to call Hitler and Ahmadinejad bad politicians,

      Well, for what it’s worth, Ahmadinejad isn’t a fool. He cultivates the available partners outside the political mainstream (especially Chavez) and continues the little farce with the UN about discussing their nuclear programme, while letting it go full-throttle at home. I wouldn’t call him a bad politician, I’m just trying to give a deeper sense to this word “politician”. Hitler, by contrast, failed to develop alliances which actually presented themselves and which he had desired, and broke or failed others which members of his cabinet broke their backs to realize. Hitler wasn’t a politician at all, but an egomaniacal loose cannon.

      What anti calls a politician is really a person who makes compromises like The BNP and David Duke.

      Not at all. First, the BNP and Duke are not politicians; they are on the sidelines of the business of politics, and always will be. Second, compromise is not necessarily inherent to politics, though it is a reflex among our politicians. Putin has made no significant compromises, to my knowledge. He will continue to oppose missile defense in eastern Europe, just as surely as Poles will continue to lobby for it, to spite both Germany and Russia. Either Poland will lose the bid, and they’ll settle on Czechia as a somewhat less offensive host, or the “West” will hardline it into Poland just to spite Russia — but it is unlikely with Germany’s clout in the EU and Russia’s ominous standing as a fence-straddler between the “good” guys and “bad” guys in modern politics. In any case you are, as it were, pulling down my elaboration of politics by referring it to objections we make to politicians and wannabe-politicians here. What I’m talking about need not have anything to do with compromise. Putin, again, made no political compromise by merely visiting Bush; it may be taken as symbolic weakness, but no modification of Russian policy resulted from it. That’s the stake, here. Policy, not opinion.

      When you hear Duke speek he makes you feel like he will make everything ok no matter what race you are. I think Putin is probably smooth like that as well.

      No doubt Putin is smooth — after all, KGB stands for KOOL GANGSTA BORIS. However, again, my point has nothing to do with smooth-talking and pulling one over to slither by in office. Politics isn’t just what you read in Machiavelli, Nietzsche or Strauss (deception, manipulation, gladhanding). Putin, so far as I can see, doesn’t slither. Putin’s visit to Kennebunkport was much more a social call than anything else, though certainly any time spent with Bush comes down to a sales pitch.

      Putin is taking very positive steps for Russia and Russia being a large part of the world makes positive steps for us as well.

      Incorrect: Russia’s policies have nothing to do with us whatever. Not politically, not symbolically. Nothing has resulted, nothing will result, from any of Putin’s actions while president. This used to be called “magical thinking” — how primitives used to believe in correspondence between unrelated phenomena. It is imagined that because Putin – as I said, within the norm of Russian social discourse – touched on a demographic problem (though acting on it to any useful degree is outside the norm of behavior for modern heads of state), this somehow improves our lot, like a smoke signal or something. No one would contend that politicians here would see this and go, hey, Putin’s right, etc. And anyone who would contend that the American people, basically a wretched collection of freaks, slobs, yuppies, assholes and non-whites, the alleged “masses” will “wake up” because of this has, of course, their head firmly planted up their own ass, so far that they may gaze intently only at what they wish will happen in their wee beating heart. Politically, for us, here, in the West, Putin’s actions and opinions are without value, outside, that is, of the miniscule and unimportant excuse for cheerleading it provides to WNs.

      But I think he mostly cares just about Russia.

      I’d say you’re much closer to the truth, there. And I agree.

      You must help your self before you can help others. Help what? Help become more powerful.

      Well, this has no meaning at all, unless you think Putin will turn tyrant by not stepping down in ’08, and go on a world-wide crusade to liberate whites from the yoke of Judah. Or, more probably, you were thinking that Putin’s concern for Russia will “inspire” us to somehow do the same, which collapses a distance about as great as that from here to Pluto in a science class diorama. Pleasant, but false.

    10. Anti Says:

      When we get on the offensive we will be able to kill them easily.

      By the way, this too is completely false. :(

    11. dq Says:

      Fist of all anti do you get paid to do this? You seem to spend a lot of time here to be an anti. I think your wrong when you said I was incorrect about Putins actions affecting the US and Europe. Of course what they do has an effect on the west. They are both part of the shrinking world just like what China, Africa,South America and so on. It might not be a great effect but still an effect. I think the universe is all connected. How could it be otherwise? When somthing happens over here it effects something over there eventhough though it might be in a minuscule way. But I think Russia’s effect on the west is more that minuscule. Then my comment on helping yourself before being able to help eachother that has no meaning. I was taking that from Dr. Pierce when he said we want a team of winners and not a team of losers. Now I know your wanting to say that you are all a bunch of fucking losers. On this I will say that aryans and jews have been playing for power for a long time back and forth and right now we are down. If you are aryan and not a kike then you would be working for us right now if we were winning. And when I said help become more powerful. Isn’t that what we all are striving for wether we know it or not? You didn’t bother explaining you last post. When we take the offensive they will have nowhere to run.

    12. dq Says:

      Your next comment if you make one I will brobably not reply to because it will be too far down the page. Unless you make it interesting.

    13. Anti Says:

      Of course what they do has an effect on the west. They are both part of the shrinking world just like what China, Africa,South America and so on. It might not be a great effect but still an effect.

      This doesn’t actually say anything, indeed it is a wonder of evasive vacuity. You say “of course”, which proves nothing, appeal to a “shrinking world” (recall the diorama), and then just assert that “it” – which has not been defined – is an effect. I am not mocking you, simply pointing out that you haven’t really defined the what and how of this alleged effect.

      Unfortunately, Putin’s opinions and domestic policies have literally no effect on us. They have an effect on the former Soviet satellites, to be sure, and that is why Bush wanted him over recently. Try to think in very immediate terms; WNs are trained, train themselves, to think along metaphorical, indeed almost magical lines, as you illustrate rather well.

      Now, I say above that you have not defined the what and how of the alleged effect. This is because you cannot, and that is because there is no effect beyond giving WNs false hopes and Jews false fears. It does in fact have to do with WNs being losers and Jews being winners: winners fear for the sustenance of their position and losers hope for a reversal. Appealing to morality (“if only we could all get along and fight together against the jew” etc.) is approximately useless.

      I think the universe is all connected. How could it be otherwise?

      I dunno. Sounds like you’re confusing that last brilliant section of Der Wille zur Macht with world politics, though.

    14. Anti Says:

      By the way, are you a woman? I ask because women are fond of appealing to “the universe” where “everything is connected”. I’m not making fun of you — unless you are a woman, in which case I am definitely making fun of you. If not, try to get past the “everything is connected” routine, because it’s vapid and fruity. Then, when you meet people who come on with that routine, you’ll get a creepy feeling up your spine and want to run away: no shit. But in all seriousness, that line about the universe and everything connected, together with these three —

      Of course what they do has an effect on the west. They are both part of the shrinking world just like what China, Africa,South America and so on. It might not be a great effect but still an effect.

      — it occurs to me constitute just the same rhetorical formula employed by many believers in God, whose argument, when asked to prove God, runs invariably like: “Just look around you….the universe….everything is connected…..it’s all a miracle…!” This is the lowliest order of discussion, well beneath the rational. It’s a way to evade proving aught. So, that’s what your alleged “effect” comes to, I’m afraid. By talking around it – going so far as the universe, though the world is “shrinking” – you’re free from having to demonstrate it. Anyway, just wanted to point out how much your non-argument resembles the old standby routine of believers.

      Also, I don’t “spend a lot of time doing this”. The bit on Putin took me about 7 minutes. Cheers.

    15. dq Says:

      Ok I’ll replay. I think that you must be the delusional one saying that Russia’s actions has no effect on the west. I didn’t mention them because there are many. One they(actions) give white nationalists something positive to talk about. They also hurt world jewerys shrinking confidence and this greatly affects the west. And many more that would talk me a long time to list.

      Aren’t you going to answer my question about you geting a paycheck to do this? Here is a nother one. Are you a kike.

      You also did not say how the universe could not be connected and that is my arguement about Russia’s effect on the west. I think the effect is decent size and positive. Tell me is it negative? If so why? I also haven’t heard of Der Will Zur Macht.

    16. dq Says:

      I posted my last comment before your last one appeared. I take the universe is connected from The Will to Power. There isn’t anything feminine about that book. I am a male who could more than likely kick your ass pretty easily.

    17. dq Says:

      I have a nother question. Are you one person or a commity of people sitting aroung the ADL office?

    18. Anti Says:

      I also haven’t heard of Der Will Zur Macht.

      Also sprach der Blödmann.

    19. Carpenter Says:

      Putin seems to be looking out for his own interests, and in some way Russia’s, but not enough. He allows immigration from the Central Asian republics, and he curses nationalists and makes laws against them. He sends off the Russian army to destroy Chechnya while this immigration goes on – much like a neocon, creating nationalism around a war far away while killing the country. He also has several Jews in his government. The thing that pisses off the neocons in the West is that he is playing his own game – he is like them, but Gentile and with interests opposing theirs.

      Putin has allowed the neocons to encircle Russia with military bases and military deals without saying much. When he objects to just a part of the agenda, like the radar and missiles in Eastern Europe now, that is enough to call him a “threat,” etc. Laughable. This is just the media using their Big Lie technique.

    20. Carpenter Says:

      As for this “anti” here, I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time! I know exactly who it is – J.P. Slovjanski, who just can’t stay away from VNN no matter how he tries. He lost touch with the “community” and is filled to the brim with bitterness because of it. The sign of a guy with no friends or family.

    21. Hoosier Says:

      # Anti Says:
      3 July, 2007 at 9:51 pm

      When we get on the offensive we will be able to kill them easily.

      By the way, this too is completely false. :(

      Another series of Jewish style lectures from this nasty, mouth breathing instigator. Hey “Anti?” Fuck you. BTW, a persons writing style is like a fingerprint, and yours keeps changing from post to post and thread to thread. You’re either a schizophrenic or a “community” of freaks. Either way, it looks like you’ve been “outed”

      Go lick the balls of Abe Foxman, it’s your shift, and you’re late for work. Oh, here’s some previous “advice” from this freak or “community” of freaks:

      # Anti Says:
      25 June, 2007 at 9:09 pm

      The “14 Words” can be flushed down the toilet. Having children never saved any people, and any people weak enough to make protecting whatever children they do have top priority in racial warfare is on the way out fast.

      Priceless. It’s kind of hard to “save any people” if they don’t reproduce, don’t you think?

      What a fucking moron.

    22. Hoosier Says:

      Anti Says:
      4 July, 2007 at 12:13 am

      Unfortunately, Putin’s opinions and domestic policies have literally no effect on us.

      Literally, eh? no comment, some statements are so stupid, that nothing further needs to be said.

    23. Anti Says:

      I love seeing idiots froth at the mouth. Carpenter, curiously, before yet another dismissive attempt to identify me (as though Slovjanski has nearly the facility with English that I do, as though anyone who writes at length concerning Russia must be Slovjanski), said basically the same thing about Putin as I did. How’s that for laughable? WN small-mindedness knows no limit: they’ll dismiss anything they don’t understand — even if they’re in agreement.

    24. dq Says:

      Anti were is the anti-racist website that the racists can post on? Tell me about the ADL open chatroom I would like to visit it. It is good feeling here to have the antracist outnumbered unlike most places. Someone posting on an anti website (like you do on this one) could demoralize them unlike you can do to the racists. This is true because racial equality is a lie.

      I think you are probably jewish because after you can’t argue the facts you attack the person.

    25. -JC Says:

      My daddy used to say that there was nothing as useless as a politician that isn’t elected. I would say that Putin does what he deems necessary to be able to do what he considers important. There is “urgent” and then there’s “critical.”

      Putin has always impressed me with his character.

      http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=167

    26. Lutjens Says:

      “Hitler, by contrast, failed to develop alliances which actually presented themselves and which he had desired, and broke or failed others which members of his cabinet broke their backs to realize. Hitler wasn’t a politician at all, but an egomaniacal loose cannon.”

      Anti, du scheisskopf du….

      He was a statesman. Unlike politicians, he delivered on many of his promises. Unemployment at 0% after 4 years in power is one of many accomplishments. Tossing the kike bankers and creating a successful economy was another. His only problem was too many white traitors and commie kikes agitating from shitholes like the US of Israel and England.

    27. Lutjens Says:

      “Putin has allowed the neocons to encircle Russia with military bases and military deals without saying much. When he objects to just a part of the agenda, like the radar and missiles in Eastern Europe now, that is enough to call him a “threat,” etc. Laughable. This is just the media using their Big Lie technique.”

      Russia is encircled? Holy fuck this guy is retarded. More like Russia has encircled Western Europe and the Middle East. Go read up on the Sunburst missles and where they are all stationed at. Then go read up on their nuke subs. You dummy.