4 August, 2011

When Did The American Empire Start To Decline?

Posted by Socrates in empire, Gulf War, Iraq, jewed foreign policy, Socrates, War On Israel's Enemies, Zionism at 2:22 pm | Permanent Link

by Stephen M. Walt.


“But when future historians search for the moment when the “American Empire” reached its pinnacle and began its descent, the war that began 21 years ago would be a good place to start.”


  • 40 Responses to “When Did The American Empire Start To Decline?”

    1. Tim McGreen Says:

      When did the American Empire start to decline? Excellent question. No doubt there will be different dates given by different people for different reasons….1789, 1861, 1913 and 1933 are all commonly used to mark the beginning of the decline. But I believe the Empire began its terminal downward spiral in 1973-74. That’s when, if you’ll remember, the so-called energy crisis began, followed by ten years of high fuel prices, high unemployment, inflation and recession. And unlike all the previous economic downturns, the Kwa never really recovered from that one.

      The 1973-4 era is also around the same time when America’s aging smokestack industries began to shut down and US manufacturing started moving overseas. It’s also when the government and consumers started getting deeper and deeper into permanent debt.

      Then of course there were the Vietnam and Watergate debacles, events that showed the USA was a giant with feet of clay. The 70s also saw the rise of of non-stop mud immigration, urban decay and the consolidation of Jew control.

      America’s golden age ran from 1950-1970. With the exception of a few short and anemic periods of economic prosperity built on debt and speculation, the Empire has been going downhill ever since. Hopefully we won’t have to wait much longer before the Evil Empire falls. But fall it will and fall it must.

    2. Nom de Guerre Says:

      I agree with Tim, the Empires terminal decline began long before the 1st Persian gulf war, which by the way coincides with the fall of the Soviet jewnion.

    3. CW-2 Says:

      I don’t wish to split hairs but the first economic sign to indicate that all was not well with ZOG Inc. occurred in 1971 when Nixon took the dollar off gold convertibility. The structural mismatch between government spending ambitions and economic performance which made that action necessary was likely caused by Europe and Japan having caught up with the US in advanced manufacturing and giving stiff competition to American firms.

    4. Nom de Guerre Says:

      The question now is not why or how, but when the beast will die, the history of dying empires is usually a pretty bloody affair. The Athenians went off to fight in Sicily and left the city to be besieged by Spartans, and to succumb to plague. Romes final days were fighting off Germans in the West and Persians in the East.Britain spent its inglorious final daze destroying Germany with the aid of America.

    5. Tim McGreen Says:

      Yes, when the ZOG Empire finally goes into its death-throes it will lash out like a mortally wounded wild animal, trying to take down as many victims as it can before dying. I predict that all local police forces will eventually become Federalized. There will be internal passports and checkpoints manned by heavily armed Federal troops. They will conduct nightly house to house searches which will be as intrusive and humiliating as those currently being carried out by ZOG mercenaries in occupied Iraq and Afghanistan.

      The Home and Garden Center of every WAL* MART will be turned into a makeshift Civilian Detention Center, i.e., a concentration camp. Any “unauthorized” civilian out after Curfew will be summarily shot. The Interstate Highway System will be used for military traffic only. Male Negro soldiers will be used to search and arrest White females in front of their White husbands and White families in order to inflict maximum humiliation and degradation.

      Only the Jews will be free to travel as they please, nor will they have to worry about submitting to any searches or arrests. Yet they will still complain about being inconvenienced by all those gentiles in front of them getting stopped, interrogated and beaten up by the police. “Officer, my wife and I are in a hurry. Can you please just take them down to the station and beat them up there instead of inconveniencing my family like this?” “Oh, I’m sorry, Mr. Schwartz, but I have orders to….” “Phooey on your verkate orders, just get out of my way! Now!” “Y-yes, sir. Right away, Mr. Schwartz. Sorry to bother you and your family like this. I-I’ll wave you through, sir. Have a good evening!”

      What is it going to take to get Whitey’s blood boiling????

    6. CW-2 Says:

      I suspect America’s decline and collapse will be a protracted affair, ending in a wimper not a bang. Although the industrial capacity is much depleted the raw material base is still substantial and the agricultural strength is vast. So let’s not hold our breath waiting for the collapse, as much as we would like it won’t happen in our lifetimes. Just an opinion of course.
      In historical perspective collapses and contractions always occur on the periphery of the empire, and there is no sign of ZOG moving its occupation forces from either Britain or Germany. The number of service units has reduced but military forces are still in place.
      I keep hoping that nigger loving France will be the first to go under, but again it is a big country that can easily feed itself and is likely to endure all but the most major of disturbances. My current bet is on either the jewK or Italy breaking apart. Both are already deeply fractured and living on past glories.

    7. walter Says:

      Easiest question in thw world. When the first lying, cheating scamming, murdering filfthy ugly demonic Jew stepped foot on American soil, thats when!!

    8. morris wise Says:

      The poorest of the poor, the lowest of the low are living better in the US than most natives of third world countries. Try to deport any prisoner or resident of a homeless shelter to Haiti or Somalia, they would rather die than give up their chicken dinners and soft cots. If an invitation was given by the US to third worlders to come and spend their lives in our prisons and homeless shelters, billions would flotilla in to taste the curry and share the cots.

    9. van helsing Says:

      what do u mean “if an invitation was given…”

      i would say it really started in 1861. and it gathered steam in 1945. cause then there was nowhere to go but downhill.

    10. Waldo Starr Says:

      I guess the end of anything starts when it is born, but I feel that the real push to take control of America and use it as a private bank probably started with the assassination of John F. Kennedy. When a president goes off the reservation and subsequently gets murdered, that sends a pretty strong message to the next wannabes. Notice how all the presidents use Teleprompters to make sure they don’t stray from the message. Anyway, after Kennedy got waxed we got Lyndon B. Johnson. He brought forward his Great Society, that great piece of legislation that paid the lowest IQ blacks to breed like rats, have a baby get a check. This so called civil rights movement has been chipping away at our history, our culture and our freedoms ever since and not to mention the strain on our treasury. We also got numerous wars that have enriched the military industrial complex and the usual suspects have profited gleefully. Death and destruction is the butter on their bread. So, when did the end start for sure, it’s anyone guess, just when will it all end and will we have an opportunity to fight in the next American Revolution?

    11. festerbestertester Says:

      The USA declined the minute the Jew got control of the media.

    12. ty grant Says:


    13. Miller Says:

      The USA declined as the secessionist states began to rise.

    14. ty grant Says:

      the election of president Herry s Truman

    15. ty grant Says:

      Recognition of Israel

      President Truman in the Oval Office, receiving a Hanukkah Menorah from the Prime Minister of Israel, David Ben-Gurion (center). To the right is Abba Eban, Ambassador of Israel to the United States
      Truman made the decision to recognize the establishment of the State of Israel over the objections of Secretary of State George Marshall, who feared it would hurt relations with the Arab states.[103] At a meeting in the White House on November 10, 1945, he told envoys to Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt: “I am sorry, gentlemen, but I have to answer to hundreds of thousands who are anxious for the success of Zionism: I do not have hundreds of thousands of Arabs among my constituents.”[104]

      Rejecting Arab, British, and U.S. State Department warnings that Jewish immigration to Palestine and a Jewish state would destabilize the Middle East, Truman and Congress continued to support the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people.[105] American policy makers in 1947–48 agreed that the highest foreign policy objective was containment of Soviet expansion as the Cold War unfolded. From Washington’s perspective, Palestine was secondary to the goal of protecting the “Northern Tier” of Greece, Turkey, and Iran from Communism, as promised by the Truman Doctrine. Truman set three goals for the region: a peaceful solution, unwillingness to send US troops, and the need to prevent Soviet penetration.[106]

      According to George Lenczowski, Truman’s policy on Palestine was influenced by Jewish lobbyists.[107] In his memoirs, Truman wrote that top Jewish leaders in the United States put pressure on him to promote Jewish aspirations in Palestine.[108] At the urging of the British, a special UN committee, UNSCOP, recommended the immediate partitioning of Palestine into two states. With Truman’s support, the plan was approved by the General Assembly on November 29, 1947. Secretary of State George Marshall and foreign affairs experts continued to oppose the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine.[109][110] When Truman agreed to meet with Chaim Weizmann, the Secretary of State objected but did not publicly dispute his decision. Secretary of Defense James Forrestal warned about the perils of arousing Arab hostility, which might result in denial of access to petroleum resources in the area,[111] and about “the impact of this question on the security of the United States.”[112] Truman recognized the State of Israel on May 14, 1948, eleven minutes after it declared itself a nation.[113][114]

      Truman wrote:

      Hitler had been murdering Jews right and left. I saw it, and I dream about it even to this day. The Jews needed some place where they could go. It is my attitude that the American government couldn’t stand idly by while the victims [of] Hitler’s madness are not allowed to build new lives.[115]

    16. ty grant Says:

      Truman was a hardened Zionist….

    17. The Red Skull Says:

      There are several key points where we lost America.The triumph of the ‘yankee empire’ started the decline,and killed the original Constitution,all built on a destroyed and gutted South.The creation of the Jew-run Fed Reserve was an economic ‘Coup d’tat’ that enslaved us to the bankers Debt Machine.

      The Real Decline that is still running today started in the 1960’s with the assassination of Kennedy,and the placement of their puppet LBJ,to carry -out the ‘unwinnable war’ in Vietnam.That war was designed to break Americas morale.We were never meant to win it.The 60’s also saw the rise of Cultural marxism,the Jew led anti-war movement,and the start of the shipping of our once great industrial base to other countries.The Immigration Act of 1965 was a racial ‘Coup d’tat’ that has since darkened our country with all kinds of bi-pedal scum,and brought the Majority white population to barely 65% of what it was 50 years ago.

      The 60’s also saw the rise of the jew-inspired and often led ‘Snivel rights’ movement,affirmative action and quotas.Its been downhill ever since the 60’s folks,with the Golden Age of White America having been the 1950’s.If you were lucky enough to have lived in that brief period of sunshine-rejoice –because its gone forever.

      So now we have had Economic,Political,and Racial Cop d’tats and they are adding up to a country that is definately on the decline.White America is financially,politically,militarily,and spiritually Bankrupt.There is no turning back.Now the jews and Marxists are implementing the final stages of the ‘kill’–starting with the greatest financial swindle of all time(nice one jews) and nobody has swung from the lamppost or even been indicted.

      The False Flag Op of 9/11 was also a ‘coup d’tat’ in that it saw the wars for Israel begin,the passage of the Soviet -like completely mis-named “Patriot Act” and the whole ‘War on Terror’ bullshit scam and dog and pony show.That was the final stake in the heart of White America that we all knew and loved.

      America is also a country that has turned its face from God,and let the pedelers of porn and all kinds of other spiritual filth fill the minds of our once righteous people.Our money is worth nothing,our reputation around the world is shot,people all over hate US because we’ve become a giant Bully usually backing that ‘shitty little country’ in the mid-east,blindly-to our own detriment.This is a sick,depraved and corrupt once Great White Nation that has been brought low,by the eternal destroyer of nations -the Jews.

      I almost forgot the media ‘coupd’tat’–where our press was taken over by a foreign parasite so they could shape and mold public opinion to their view.When a Country loses control of its money,media,immigration,and political structure-its is ripe for dissolution.That is the boat we are in folks.Its not a matter of IF!!!–Its a matter of WHEN!!

      The time for the TREE OF LIBERTY to be watered again with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants alike is approaching faster than you think.

    18. The Red Skull Says:

      Post -script: The above comments were all exellent and show there are some insightful people on this site—keep up the good work Soldats!!

      Prepare,educate,train,and pray if you believe in God,because we are all going to be tested where we stand very soon i’m afraid.The Red Skull gave you all a ‘thumbs up’!!

    19. CW-2 Says:

      Some historians blame the fratricidal civil war for sowing the seeds of America’s decline, but the real disaster of that conflict wasn’t just the destruction of some of our best racial stock, but the freeing of the slaves and letting them do as they pleased. It would have been relatively easy then to start a repatriation to Africa program.
      History demonstrates that any White society when brought into contact with the negro on the basis of ‘equality’ will inevitably suffer decline and degradation. So America will eventually collapse, but so will all the nations of Western Europe because all are to a greater or lesser extent affected with the negro problem.
      For national health to return the negro must be removed from our societies, but for us to achieve that goal the jew must be confronted and neutralized.

    20. Tim McGreen Says:

      For national health to return the negro must be removed from our societies, but for us to achieve that goal the jew must be confronted and neutralized.

      Yes, yes! But even after ridding ourselves of the Jew and Negro menace once and for all, we’ll STILL need to deal with all those nigger-loving, Jew-worshiping Christian gentiles, the greedy capitalist and corporate Jew-thinkers and those possibly millions of Gentiles who are currently or were at one point married to Jews, along with any mischlinge that were spawned. Surgically removing the cancerous tumor is hard enough, but then you have to check to see if the cancer spread to other parts of the victim’s body.

    21. Jürgen Says:

      When Did The American Empire Start To Decline?

      As soon as THEY got here.


    22. torrence Says:

      OK Alex. Once again, your filters have filtered out my comment. They seem to really like me. Or the government at least does.

    23. CW-2 Says:

      Tim, yes we have set ourselves a difficult task, it’s not going to be easy, but angry avenging Aryans are up to the challenge.

    24. ty grant Says:

      Tim McGreen Says:
      5 August, 2011 at 9:10 am
      For national health to return the negro must be removed from our societies, but for us to achieve that goal the jew must be confronted and neutralized.

      Yes, yes! But even after ridding ourselves of the Jew and Negro menace once and for all, we’ll STILL need to deal with all those nigger-loving, Jew-worshiping Christian gentiles, the greedy capitalist and corporate Jew-thinkers and those possibly millions of Gentiles who are currently or were at one point married to Jews, along with any mischlinge that were spawned. Surgically removing the cancerous tumor is hard enough, but then you have to check to see if the cancer spread to other parts of the victim’s body

      Behavior is the ultimate and only give away…. the Mischlinge are often very “clingy” and find it very hard to operate in a healthy white society…. they will often mock and smear the actions and behaviors of others in these societies and usually will either have outbursts of violence or become isolated… here in michigan many towns are becoming infested with these parasites who are very destructive and more than likely have many hours in the jewish zionist camps like the ones in wisconsin…. and it usually happens, the large population growth, before they bring in the niggers and spicks…

    25. Big Dick Johnson Says:

      The seeds of the destruction of the White Race in Amerika were planted When Thomas Jewferson wrote that idiotic line in the Declaration “We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal”.

    26. Big Dick Johnson Says:

      The seeds of the destruction of the White Race in Amerika were planted When Thomas Jewferson wrote that idiotic line in the Declaration “We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal”.

    27. Howdy Doody Says:

      Coup d’Etat Says:

      14 February, 2009 at 5:50 pm

      Jews are psychopaths.

      Describing a jew that’s mean spirited is like calling a dog with rabies rabid. There’s a cure to immediately rid of the dog and that’s to kill it. When someone gets bitten, shots are given to prevent the disease. When it comes to jews and their behavior; however, they are given a free ticket to spew every lie; they are given free reign to establish investment companies and then scam and steal people’s money; they are allowed to set up ADL headquarters in every city, in every state, with Mossad spying on every American; they are allowed to establish abusive hate laws; they are allowed to establish any law that’s in direct violation to the U.S. Constitution or in direct violation to a person’s civil rights, especially if one questions jews’ virtues; and, they get away with every inhumane practice they wis
      h to do on any human or animal with no prosecution. Therefore, their lack of virtues continue to exist, on and on, with no ramifications and if one dares to question their motives or lies that person is automatically called “anti-semitic.” The word “anti-semitic” is a rather shallow description, but it does some meaning that is rather subjective, which the name caller wishes to distract and thwart any meaningful debate about the jews’ true existence. See, the jews want to lie. They don’t want to talk about why the “lie” is a “lie” because, really, they know it is a lie and they don’t want to explain why it is not a lie because they don’t want to be caught in a lie and have everyone believe they are “liars.” It’s the same with a psychopath. The cunning individual who thinks lying to others will make him/her (jew) dominate over the non-jew.

      Speaking of which, if the jews are so correct about the Germans’ gassing the jews, then why is it necessary to have ADL head
      quarters in every city, in every state, and having OTHER multiple jewish non-profit organizations all over the U.S.? If the gassing of jews really did happen and there is documentation to prove it including names, then why do we have jews controlling our money (long before WWII), controlling the media (TV, books, and magazines), and controlling free speech? Seems they would be content on the so-called back-up factual information.

      There are two answers to this. Firstly, it has nothing to do with the gassing or Auschwitz. It has to do with jews dominating every human being on the planet as we see often in the EU with people automatically going to prison after questioning the virtues of a jew’s existence. Secondly, it has to do with making money and lots of it; more than any other race.

      So the next time a non-jew is called “anti-semitic,” by a jew, the jew is actually telling you the jews want to steal more money, your freedom, and your civil rights by lying.

      Do you read Shari Kochm

    28. Syd Spada Says:

      For what it’s worth

    29. Howdy Doody Says:

      April 1974 witnessed Alexander Solzhenitsyn release from the USSR, and his statement to the Western People “Live Not By Lie’s” His book released the same year meet with media disrespect, as he was labled a Christian nuts and Right wing crazy etc.

      Richard M. Nixon in 1974 was being HOUNDED over NOTHING, after he helped Dr. K and kikes pull the rug from Under Taiwan which was completed under Ford or Carter with the One China Policy.

      President Richard M. Nixon was also thanked for emptying our military stores and almost going to NUKE war for that Shitty little bandit state, because as the soon as the 1973 fun and games were over it was around the clock Water Gate Bull SHIT.
      Read Silent Coup 1991.

      !974 was a shitty year for getting a decent blue collar job, and the mob had made their plann’s to implement the open borders and shut down our manufactoring which started in earnest after Jimmy Carter was booted from office, that was his punishment for the Peace Accords LOL !

      A side note.

      VNNF has been destroyed by enemy aliens free ranging, and thats the way it is today.

    30. louiethesyrian Says:

      When they started allowing Jews to play tennis, which coincidentally was the same year they installed the Federal Reserve-run government.

    31. morris wise Says:

      The cotton picking machine was a disaster, it uprooted six milion hard working black field workers. Starvation started the great migration to Chicago and NYC where blacks got a cot and some hots. A new machine has to be invented that instead of picking cotton will pick out the unemployed and give them jobs.

    32. Howdy Doody Says:


      The Whackos of all history would rather cause a nuke war than give up their cruel rule IMO.

    33. torrence Says:

      More important to me is when the American Empire will end. The sooner the better.

    34. Tim McGreen Says:

      Amen to that, T.

    35. shabbos s shabazz Says:

      Big Dick-

      What you say is based on 200 years of hindsight.

      Would Jefferson have written those words if he could have seen into the future?

    36. Tim McGreen Says:

      Would Jefferson have written those words if he could have seen into the future?
      Actually, Jefferson’s words were based, at least in part, on the philosophy of Locke:

      TO understand political power right, and derive it from its original, we must consider, what state all men are naturally in, and that is, a state of perfect freedom to order their actions, and dispose of their possessions and persons, as they think fit, within the bounds of the law of nature, without asking leave, or depending upon the will of any other man. A state also of equality, wherein all the power and jurisdiction is reciprocal, no one having more than another; there being nothing more evident, than that creatures of the same species and rank, promiscuously born to all the same advantages of nature, and the use of the same faculties, should also be equal one amongst another without subordination or subjection, unless the lord and master of them all should, by any manifest declaration of his will, set one above another, and confer on him, by an evident and clear appointment, an undoubted right to dominion and sovereignty.

      -John Locke’s Second Treatise of Government
      Chapter 2 – Of the State of Nature, Sect. 4

    37. Howdy Doody Says:


      Tim, White’s have not only lost every Nation they live, but willing fight to keep it so IMO.

    38. Howdy Doody Says:


      Tim, White’s have not only lost every Nation they live in, but willing fight to keep it so IMO.

    39. Tim McGreen Says:

      The 1973-74 period was not all bad, of course. There were some great kick-ass bands around back then, like Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith and Judas Priest. That’s what White kids listened to back then, not Eminem or Will. i. am. Wiggers weren’t tolerated in those days, you see. Neither were homos. This country was a lot Whiter in ’73-’74, even in the Boroughs of Brooklyn and Queens. And the White girls back then generally looked better than their counterparts do today.

      Too bad we can’t salvage what was best about those times. Or can we?

    40. morris wise Says:

      The refurbished Chinese aircraft carrier might look like a pile of junk but it will soon be capable of launching 35 long range aircraft each carrying two nuclear armed missiles. Stationing it 500 miles off the Western coast of the US will make it a respected weapon. Its aircraft will deal a devastating blow to any nation that attacks this floating pile of junk.